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"MnJ" Snake, Tortoise, Reptile Rescue - VA ???

Oh the Viperkeeper video...One word...Appalling

Seriously to make a video of that nature, about someone you supposedly respect just blows my mind. Maybe I come from a different school of thought here, but I was taught respect is earned, not given. To make that video, whether Viperkeeper says he is OK with it or not, sends a message about just how disrespectful Nick is.

I can't say enough about the nastiness that was that video, from the sex toys, to child molester scene, to urinating on Nicks face, absolutely appalling.
 
John E Dove said:
Their domain info is hidden on this one so that no one can prove it is Mike & Nick the wonder duds.
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It is hidden NOW, but copies of the domain info was posted early on in the thread back when it was NOT hidden.
 
lanceheads said:
Here's my favorite part!

We will not pay you for them, as we do full vetting on every new addition,

Vetting?

What the hell is that?
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vetting is a process of examination and evaluation. Specifically, vetting often refers to performing a background check on someone before offering them employment. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness. It also applies to veterinarians who check/examine animals. "vetting" originally started out in the horse racing business as horses had to be vetted before a race.
 
Hello Gary you was 100% correct they are not rear fanged i learn something new daily like i tell everyone who is in this hobby will do the same but i am glad now i know more about them but still have no interest in keeping them even though they have a poor delivery of venom still it is not a good beginer hot in my eyes because i do not think there is a beginner and will stand by that till i die

Ok areptiledisfunction98045 i did not see your question but i will look back to get it and answer it for you and about the vid nick thought up it was done with viperkeepers permission and was glad to have Nick do the vid it is all in fun i know it was a tiny over board but still over and all it was a fun little parody thats it parody's go on about everyone these days well famous people have it done to them and it is all in fun there is nothing wrong with have a couple laughs and having a little bit of fun but let me go back and get your question and answer it for you
 
areptiledisfunction98045 i just so love how you think we are soooooooooooo poor lol you wish we was poor there is nothing poor here thank you much you do not know nothing about where i live nor how much money we got lol assume keep asumming because more things you spill out your mouth the more popular we get and let me tell ya lol i want this thread to last forever i want it to be top dog of all threads if that is possiable so please assume all you want because you are nowhere near me by far and do not know me so guess what buddy it does not bother me what so ever but i do find it funny for you and your pals to make fun of me and nick and down us and degrade us it is what makes me more modivated and determined to keep going on LIKE I SAID YOU DO NOT KNOW ME NOONE ON THIS FORUM KNOWS ME OR WHAT I GOT OR WHAT I HAVE AND OH GUESS WHAT THATS HOW I KEEP IT I ONLY SHOW WHAT I WANT TO SHOW BUT IF YOU WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT ME AND COME OUT AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE YOUR MORE THAN HAPPY TO MY DOOR IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STOP BY AND GOT A COLD ONE IN THE FRIDGE JUST WAITING
 
That's funny...you're using this thread to ask for herp advice? To quote Nick, ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!

I'm finding it hard to believe that you came back to the BOI under a fake name (that I hope the moderators ban) because you were apparently bored.

A couple of weeks ago, you guys told us that you had well over 100 snakes. If that was true, you better step away from that greasy keyboard of yours and start feeding and cleaning cages.

Oh, and be careful moving your snakes with paint rollers. They might not be as strong as a real hook. I'm sure they will work fine for you when you idiots buy a few Echis.

Good night, Mike. Tomorrow morning I'll drop by again while I'm drinking my coffee to see how much deeper you've dug your hole. I'll forget about this while I'm at work until I receive the latest email from Nick, calling me "fag" for the 10,000th time.
 
Hey Seth my friend how is it going? it is going good over here so far i am so sorry to hear that nick sent you more emails hopefully you 2 will work something out sooner or later and let me correct you on this note ok i never said anything about me having over 100 snakes wow i am not that big yet maybe one day but i do not tend to be going that far this is just a hobby honestly but if it gets to that point i will sure and let you know if i reach that number but right now it is only me and my wife and nick and it is alot of work with what we got but of course we are still building for our place to do our projects and it is taking up alot of time but i am so glad to see you care so much for our safety thank you Seth that touches me deep down to the bottom of my heart and as for us getting Echis rotfl i never planned on getting any lol duno where you got that info but oh well i am sure it came from the same crap where you all get your info i guess just wish i knew where i could find this place yall go to to find out so much about us because i would love to know more about me so please someone share i would love to read my life on the net and as for me being in a hole lol god i bet everyone wishes i was dug into a grave but do not worry people it will happen one day i can assure you of that Oh by the way what kind of coffee do you drink? i would love to share a cup with you one day i am not big on starbucks though to over rated but anywho i am glad you stoped by and gave me your lovely words for the night thank you so much
 
Oh and P.S. i was asking about them because i was curious Seth just curious thats all and Gary seems to know more about the exotic hots then me but i think i may keep those questions for the other site with some top dogs of the hots i know Gary is a member there as well well good night Seth hope you have a good day tommorow and be safe out there
 
reptilesrcool said:
areptiledisfunction98045 i just so love how you think we are soooooooooooo poor lol you wish we was poor there is nothing poor here thank you much you do not know nothing about where i live nor how much money we got lol assume keep asumming because more things you spill out your mouth the more popular we get and let me tell ya lol i want this thread to last forever i want it to be top dog of all threads if that is possiable so please assume all you want because you are nowhere near me by far and do not know me so guess what buddy it does not bother me what so ever but i do find it funny for you and your pals to make fun of me and nick and down us and degrade us it is what makes me more modivated and determined to keep going on LIKE I SAID YOU DO NOT KNOW ME NOONE ON THIS FORUM KNOWS ME OR WHAT I GOT OR WHAT I HAVE AND OH GUESS WHAT THATS HOW I KEEP IT I ONLY SHOW WHAT I WANT TO SHOW BUT IF YOU WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT ME AND COME OUT AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE YOUR MORE THAN HAPPY TO MY DOOR IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STOP BY AND GOT A COLD ONE IN THE FRIDGE JUST WAITING
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This Attitude is the problem. Becuase there are people that are here that you will run into and your attitude reflects you. Who cares what others call you. Just step above it and ignore it. You will be better for it.

But if you are doing shady things like I told Nick it will get out. And it will be a hard business to be in. There are people that have to have others buy animals for them and have other people sell things for them just becuase they tried to do shady things. Some they could not even walk into a a reptile show. Others can not even buy things online. Really!

Also Coral snakes inject venom just fine.

About the Saw Scales. I have never owned them. I want to but I am very picky about the animals that enter my collection. I have a bit of info on them. But this is not the place to talk about it. You are more then welcome to email me at

gary @ proherps.com

Now I am offering this to help educate only. I will not partake in anything illegal or the help to do anything illegal. I mean this. I will talk snakes and help in anyway I can. But like I told Nick on the phone. If I feel at anytime you are not being honest, or are trying to do anything illegal or shady I will cut ties. That fast. All it will take is once. If you are trully wanting to turn things around email me. Start with taking down the BS rescue if you are not doing it. That was a childish thing to do IMO.

I am all for helping out. I am all for people trully loving this hobby.

You need to understand that these people do have a right to be upset. Look at it from their view.

1) They see ads asking for free stuff.

2) you were not certified as a rescue

3) Nick saying he is your partner and ranting about all the animals you two have taken in. He used the word hundreds

4) Nicks Vids are then viewed as yours too as he is your partner. You have said he is.

5) Nick gets upset about being questioned and goes off.

6) you followed him in his rant

7) Instead of trying to clean up the bad info every sees you guys do a video on Al.

And there are more things. It just looks like you guys are not thinking about the hobby. You are seeing $$$$ and think it is a quick buck. Let me tell you. It took me awhile to get where I am. I own many sites I do not need to list them. As I told Nick people know me has an honest person that is level headed. There maybe people that do not like me but they will say that I am honest and I am respected.

You need to really look at all this crap that has been posted by Nick and some by yourself. Do not point out that others said this or that. we are adults. Nick fights with minors online. WTF bro.

Really just take a step out of your box and look over the things you and your partner has posted and your partners vids.

Most peoples gripe is Nick. He has claimed to be a corner stone in OUR COMMUNITY! The reptile community is bigger then you tube. The reptile community is larger then any ONE of us! But he has said somethings that really hurts our hobby. And the kicker is he trully does not care. If he cared he would just take down the bad info and start over. Admit he was wrong. But that might ding his subscribers.

This whole thing is deeper then just the rescue.

If you want to email me you are more then welcome too. This is the second time I have tried to help. I have kept a level head during it all.

Like I said words can be spoken or written. Action though prove it all.
 
SethsExotics said:
That's funny...you're using this thread to ask for herp advice? To quote Nick, ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!

I'm finding it hard to believe that you came back to the BOI under a fake name (that I hope the moderators ban) because you were apparently bored.

A couple of weeks ago, you guys told us that you had well over 100 snakes. If that was true, you better step away from that greasy keyboard of yours and start feeding and cleaning cages.

Oh, and be careful moving your snakes with paint rollers. They might not be as strong as a real hook. I'm sure they will work fine for you when you idiots buy a few Echis.

Good night, Mike. Tomorrow morning I'll drop by again while I'm drinking my coffee to see how much deeper you've dug your hole. I'll forget about this while I'm at work until I receive the latest email from Nick, calling me "fag" for the 10,000th time.
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Bro you know I am totally against the things Nick has done. But I believe it was Nick that said they had hundreds of snakes.Mike said they took one.

I am not sure about this whole thing. I really think the rescue thing was a way to get free stuff. That is my opinion. As most people here feel the same.

But I am also thinking that Mike might be caught up in the middle of this. I think someone else is pulling strings if you will.

It is hard for me bro. I hate what I have seen them do. But I also want to educate so they do not go out buy a snake that will kill them or a little one you know.

Tat rock and that hard place.

I would love to see them say hey we messed up are fault. Delete all the Crap and start over and do it right. Make a post saying they were wrong and say they are sorry for this. Then step up and do it right.

Is it a long shot? I am not sure
 
reptilesrcool said:
BUT IF YOU WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT ME AND COME OUT AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE YOUR MORE THAN HAPPY TO MY DOOR IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STOP BY AND GOT A COLD ONE IN THE FRIDGE JUST WAITING
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One word folks.

DELIVERANCE.

Watch the movie and spend your time somewhere far from Mike & Nick.
 
Thank you Gary and i will be emailing you and talking with you more on the subject i do understand alot of what is mentioned above and my prior actions when i lashed out i was foolish it made me look bad and i am sorry for that because i should of kept cool and calm but i had to much to drink and just could not stand the bashing nomore and yes Nick is a partner of mine in this up and coming project we got going i just hope it turns out the way i see it being I know many people dislike Nick awhole lot and can stand him but he is a friend of mine and will not turn my back on a friend i was not raised like that but if he does something wrong to seriously hurt the herp community then me and him will have a major problem buisness wise i know his vids does have mis leading info in them and i am sure if he will allow me to i can reedit them for him and put in the info that needs to be in there i think thats something me and him can work together on if he allows it because after all it is his things and his vids but thats an idea i thought i would throw out there to him just to make the playing field here even and make people concerns about his vids go away i am sure he is tired of all the hate and threats he gets daily i know i would be tired of it but i am going to try it and see what happens at least that way he can save his vids right where they are but have some info that might be bad taken out and replaced with the correct things and i am sure everything is going to be just fine later down the road right now though i am just concentrating on building our place and getting things done right and proper
 
And Gary i did step up and say i was sorry for the way we tried to run the rescue because we had no knowledge on how to fully run one i admitted that i do not know how many times but right now i just do not see a need to run a rescue because it is just to much hassel in it and alot of B.S. to deal with honestly but lovely Virginia has no laws against running one or having a rescue we found all the legal info we needed on that stand point but still it is just to much hassel and drama to deal with so i will let other people around here do it and handle it all i will just do what i been wanting to do for along time now
 
critical ill pill still hill or whatever you are why bash that movie that was an awsome movie and the funny thing is most of you seen it lol so it can not be that bad and the funny part is i know why most like oh chuckie watched it for rotfl
 
Am I the only one who feels that someone needs to show this moron where the period (.) key lives, and then teach him how to use it?

Paragraphs would also be a refreshing change.
 
Hey there Jimbo whats up nice to meet you well sorry but this moron does not use grammer i am so sorry it ruins your day honestly i am but it is something i do not use on the net plus i suck at it real badly but maybe i will try harder next time around and welcome to my thread where everything is all about me and my friends welcome and i hope you find it to your hateful delight have a nice day
 
areptiledisfunction98045 wow well hey there i guess you could not sleep either anyways i am sure you got loads of hate and filth you would like to unload on here tonight keep me entertained i should be up for while
 
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