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"MnJ" Snake, Tortoise, Reptile Rescue - VA ???

How many contradictions were in that video?

Mike is awfully proud of himself for finding out the laws. Too bad he didn't do that before he started his scam, er, rescue.

You're right, Mike, it is not against the law to breed a rescued snake. It is the ethics of the matter.

You said you are talking to a few breeders, Mike. Who? Will they come on the BOI and vouch for you?

These two have finally crossed the bridge into the land of delusion. Loyal fans? Signing autographs?

I'll have to agree with you, Ken, because there isn't much else to say. "You can't fix stupid."
 
Ken Foose said:
Just like I said. Talking to him matters not. As my wife likes to say, "you can't fix stupid".
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I am done with it.... He never even emailed me. It was all show for this thread
 
I tried to nice, I tried to be helpful and you go and make that video. I personally take that as a slap in the face. I am sure everybody who has tried to help you on this forum feels the same way.
 
What I find irritating is that these people are supposedly "Adults"... well, if that's how "adults" act, I think I'd like to trade in the last 7 years of my life and go and be a kid again. I've met 3 year-olds with greater moral integrity and intelligence.
 
The truly sad thing is, all the people who have been trying to help them are being laughed at and called haters. This just shows how ignorant these two are. They will be famous one day, but not for any good reason.

David Edmonds
 
I did not make it past the part where he said he was ordering t-shirts with the muffdaddy2 logo on them so that has fans have something for him to sign at shows.

I guess his fans will be traveling to Hamburg next weekend to swarm him like a "rock star."
 
I wondering if most vendors from Hamburg seen this thread. With all the misinformation they give and I am guessing they pratice what they preach. Would refuse to sell to them for the sake of the reptiles... But maybe ask for his autograph lol like Nick says.... I know I will be there and the last thing I want to see is his fat@@@.
 
yo yo yo hey hold up now guys before you go off on my video that was done for the people who can not talk rationally and calmly thats all it was not aimed at

areptiledisfunction98045 you actually started to be cival and nice and trying to talk which is a cool thing

Gary O that video was not intended for you either you are a great help and loads of info

And there is one or 2 of you still out there who it was not intended for and it was not a shot at the fauna website thats why i never mentioned what forum nor i did not mention no names but to those who are haters know who they are and if the shoe fits wear it but you all that are cool and trying to talk and explain you should know that was not a shot at you all it was only for the adults on here who act like little babies and yes i am a man and will stand up for myself if someone wants to throw shots at me i throw them right back thats how life works i am not amish and i do not turn the other cheek period but i was going to post the haters in another vid but i am not making another vid on the haters till they want to swing first again like i said i just do not let people roll over me like i am chump thats just not me and i said nothing wrong it is the truth if you all just go back and read the hatefull things people has said instead of talking rational and pointing out things wrong you will see the name calling and bashing i just came back on here to explain that not all you are haters you just hated the info nick was pushing and i know this i know what you are all mad at and i am correcting it as we speak but if you good ones out there think i was taking a shot out at you i am sorry because i wasn't it is only to those who were hatefull and acting like little kids plain and simple i am done explaining and oh i never said i was signing things or people will flock to me lol i am not god nor am i famous i leave the autographs to to the famous people i am just in this hobby to have fun and enjoy my snakes plain and simple and people has asked nick for autographs to yall it maybe wierd but it is something he enjoys and likes doing for people and when they ask he does for his fans which is cool of him to do so just like everyone knows now there is no laws being broken and there is no rescue going on and the snakes are in great health and are kept with good husbandry end of story and i have not told noone no info on snakes yet so do not through them shots at me i have not done a educational vid so you do not know what i know only nick has done those vids i just hope everyone can get along and be peaceful and enjoy this hobby like it is supose to be enjoyed instead of stressing every persons moves or how they live honestly what happens in someones home or shop it is none of your buisness till they make it your buisness like rip you off or you had bad dealings them you got a complaint there but not till then i mean come on people just get along and be rational instead of little kids ok talk to people calm and explain your side of the story from your eyes and just maybe someone may see your side and change it up you never kno till you try remember that the only reason i am doing a few things different is because of these couple people here who actually talked and explained there side like adults and was decent while doing it instead of calling people names and i thank you all for that but to the haters and little kids and you know who are just grow up and enjoy this hobby and try to go at people with rational thoughts and expressions instead of name calling and bashing because it will get you nowhere in life i hope you all have a good day and a great life and enjoy the hobby like it is ment to be be safe out there
 
TL;DR death from wall-o-text.

Your constant use of "hater" for people who are adamantly disagreeing with your methods, your information, and your constant claims of one thing when in fact you are doing another shows just how immature you are. An adult would take a step back and consider why so many people are having an issue with what is being a written. A child throws a tantrum. That is all you do. You have thrown out insult after insult and lie after lie.

I honestly pity any animal in your care, and anyone gullible enough to buy from you. If you cannot afford a $30 snow from a pet store, you clearly cannot afford to raise and breed multiple snakes.
 
Mike, it's as simple as this
You and Nick do NOT belong in this hobby, you two make videos bashing and attacking others, calling them names and telling 12 year olds to go and hate on everybody that has a simple opinion about you, to me, that is not a way how an adult acts, but you do, you two are nothing but over grown selfish simple minded children who refuse to learn
a true member of this hobby always have each others backs, and help each other when help is needed, tell me exactly what you two did for this hobby? execpt for spreading false information and opening a fake rescue?
 
Man here we go again like i stated before go back and see how some of you acted like childern before we can upon here with all your hateful name calling and bashing noone offered help or advise except hate and thats what i am fighting against when it comes to my vids AND FOR THE LAST TIME LEAVE ME OUT OF NICKS VIDS WHAT HE SAID IS WHAT HE SAID NOT ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD OH AND MISS MEGAN DUKE HERE IN MIDDLESEX COUNTY THE SNAKES ARE HIGHER THEN 30 DOLLARS THANK YOU YOU LIVE WHERE OH YEAH 3000 MILES FROM ME YOU KNOW THE PRICES IN MY COUNTY AND DAVE I NEVER SPREAD NO INFORMATION FALSE OR TRUE YET GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT AND YOUR THE ONE WHO CAME OUT WITH THE NAME CALLING AND BASHING LOOK HOW YOU ACT FROM YOUR YOUTUBE PAGE YOUR THE DISGRACE SON NOT US YOU THREW ALL THEM PUNCHES AND NOW WE SAY THINGS BACK IN DEFENCE YOU GET ALL UPTIGHT AND TRY TO ACT LIKE YOU DID NOTHING WRONG PLEASE BOY GROW UP AND GET A LIFE
 
And please people go back read a little before speaking ok you will see what i said in the first post up there about the hating on people instead of trying to reason with someone or try to help them just read thats all you got to do to see what i am saying but like i said it was not ment for everyone on this thread not at all just a few and they know who they are LIKE I SAID IF THE SHOE FITS WEAR IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE SO BEFORE RUNNING YOUR MOUTHS GO BACK TO THE BEGINING AND SEE THE NAME CALLING AND BASHING STARTED WAY BEFORE ANY VIDEO CAM OUT OR WE EVEN CAME ON HERE IT IS NOT HARD TO GO BACK AND SEE THAT DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND DO SOME DETECTIVE WORK ON THE THREAD AND YOU WILL SEE IT AND THAT IS WHAT SHOULD MAKE YOU SICK BECAUSE AT THE BEGINING NOONE OFFERED HELP OR TO SHOW SOMEONE THERE WAYS IT WAS ALL THIS AND THAT AND NAME CALLING AND BASHING JUST READ
 
IF YOU CAN NOT SEE THAT THEN YOUR BLIND HAVE A GOOD ONE I AM OFF FOR AWHILE I GOT ALOT OF WORK TO DO SEE YA LATER PEOPLE BE SAFE OUT THERE
 
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oh yeah dave i can post links as well as you can and people you can see the hatefull person he is this was up and a lil nastier then this awhile back but i am sure he will change it up some now lol REMEMBER BOY WE DID NOT START NOTHING YOU COME OUT WITH HATEFUL STUFF SO WILL WE WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND REMEMBER THAT AND THAT GOES TO ALL THE HATERS ALSO WE WILL NOT BE PUSHED AROUND OR THREATENED THATS JUST THE WAY IT IS but if you can come at us like real people and talk and show where the wrong stuff is like Mr. Gary O has done then we will do something about it you just think all because we do not do it right when you say to do it that we refuse and thats a total lie because we will do the right thing but we also got tons of other things to do and worry about them some internet drama but we will fix the wrong things and make them right that you can be assured on if you can just quite acting like kids and come to us like reasonable people and human beings we will listen and take advice you try and make us sound bad when all along you made yourselves look bad with the things you say you do but did not even do that BUT AGAIN THE VID I MADE WAS NOT FOR EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD JUST A SELECT FEW AND I AM VERY SURE THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE
 
Thankyou for proving my point. I do not condone the name calling on either side. Yours simply stands out more because of the ridiculous use of all caps and the profanity that I seem to recall had been mixed in, as well as your run-on sentences that make my mind bleed. Or mayhaps it was Nick who used the profanity. I'm not interested in searching back just to be bombarded with it once again. Besides, you two type so similarly that it's a wonder we can keep you straight at all.

And thanks to your inability to type in distinct sentences, for a second I was wondering just when in hell I had suddenly developed a youtube page that actually had something on it. o_O

As to snake pricing, if major chain stores are selling for ridiculous prices you could always... buy one off Craigslist, which you are so fond of visiting. Or you can look up reputable breeders and contact them about any Snows that pop up in clutches that are meant to produce other morphs and see if a deal could get worked out.
 
Mike and/or Nick make these videos in hopes that it will cause a surge in this thread. Let's all drop it. Let the thread drop into the BOI so that it pops up whenever one of their 'customers' comes looking for information. Then that person can be the judge of whether or not they want to do business with these idiots.

We've established who was behind "MnJ" or "Joann's" or whatever. We know who they are, and they have proven to be one of the biggest embarrassments the hobby has ever seen. Let's deprive them of what they want the most, shall we?

In his latest message to me, Nick told me to post his video on Fauna because he "wants more views."

Enough said. You know who these guys are, and you know what they want. Let Mike come on here this afternoon and type 3 incoherent ramblings in a row. I guarantee he'll stop if we ignore him.
 
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