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MnR --- Inquiry

I'll just say this and then shut up on the subject.  To equate the sales tax that is imposed on the buyer by the government with a service fee imposed on the seller by the service provider is ridiculous in my opinion.  The buyer has no choice but to pay the government's taxation, because he is buying something within the boundaries of that state.  However, the seller can choose not to sell via paypal and thereby remove himself from the burden of paying the user's fee.

You can flower it up all you want, but telling paypal that you will not charge a customer that 3% and then turning around and doing it anyway is dishonest.  It is also bad business practice in that it does turn off some potential buyers, but that is secondary to the question of honesty in my estimation.

I have used paypal often.  Most recently, I purchased some animals from a reputable breeder who offered paypal as an option but did not ask for the fee reimbursement.  I figured up how much the "sale price" would have to be for the breeder to not be out one cent, and I sent her that amount via paypal.  So, I paid the 3% for that transaction.  Not because I thought I owed it to her (and certainly not because she insisted), but rather because I appreciated her courtesy, effort, and honesty throughout the transaction.

Do what you want.  You probably won't miss my business one way or the other.  But if I see that "add 3%" junk in your ad for the best snakes in the world, I'll settle for second best and move on.
 
That is so silly.  Get second rate reptiles because you don't want to pay an extra 3%.  So you are just looking for a bargin animal not a quality one?  Are you all so offended that someone wants you to pay a little extra for something of quality?  You want to keep more of your hard earned money?  Then why are there so many Democrats out there?  Hahahahahaha.  Bottom line is MnR Reptiles has very high quality reptiles.  Extra 3% or not I will definately buy from him again.

Damon Geiger
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are you all so offended that someone wants you to pay a little extra for something of quality?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

You totally missed the point.  Its not about quality.  Its about a surcharge for using a  certain payment method.

But if you really want me to tell you more I will.

When I contacted MnR about a GTP he had posted forsale, he was very honest to a point about it.  When I asked how many animals in the same flight that the GTP arrived in where frozen because of poor packing he told me none.  Now to add to the story, I know personally one of the guys of who unpacked that very shipment.  I talked to him before I talked to MnR and found out about all the FROZEN DOA's in that shipment and how COLD all the animals where upon arrival.  

So the story he told sent up redflaggs all over the place.  Either he was not telling the truth or he simply didnt know what the truth was about that shipment.  Then to add insult to injury MnR wanted to add the 3% on me for Paypal.  

My buddy(who will remain nameless at this point)  went to the same warehouse that this GTP was being housed and verified its health at the time.  No URI's and bugs, that sort of stuff.  So I was willing to take a risk and pursue buying it.  

So this "QUALITY"  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> very fresh import that hadnt fed for him was adding up in price with every turn.  So I politely backed out and didnt buy it.

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This is in the eye of the beholder.  It may be quality to you, but quality to others may mean meeting a higher standard.

Example:
You probably think quality living is moving up to a double wide trailer.  While others may consider that to be an insult.  See my point.
 
Damon,

I did not say that I was looking for cheap rather than quality.  You obviously didn't read my post very well.  I said I won't do business with dishonest people wanting me to pay for a service that they agreed not to have me pay for as a condition of their being able to have it.  

You may not think it is a big deal, but I don't tolerate dishonesty on any level.  I won't lie to you, and if anyone ever lies to (or about) me, I don't do business with them.  That's all I'm saying.
 
Both of you have good points.  I personally have been very satisfied but I understand that sometimes satisfaction and disappointment can be seperated by a thin line.  And risking disappointment is usually not a good idea when you have a bad feeling about something.
 
I bought a GTP from him a few weeks ago. Excellent animal and packaging. As for the paypal fee we split it. I think it's a joke to not buy a top notch animal because of a 3% fee. Hell, banks charge a fee for their atm which is ridicules but we learn to live with it. I charge it when i sell animals and will continue to. If  someone doesn't like it don't email me simple. Man, people will complain about anything.. By the way Neil, you don't need to charge a 3% paypal fee because your prices are sky high and your shipping is right up there also so  i guess the 3% is  hidden in there somewhere (lol kidding)..
 
Joel.... I didn't think that was too funny.... I would never charge that 3%, and I would never pay it! I would never charge for heat or cold packs, I would never charge for styro boxes, that's the cost of doing business??

If you've noticed, I don't breed anything (on purpose, anyway), I SCOUR the country looking for the best of the best that I think my customers want.... sure, I have a lot of stuff in the store that I get straight from my wholesalers, but.... 99% of the herps I put up on KS and here, are the cream of the crop! And HAND-PICKED by me for investment value and breeding capabilities.... you're darn right they're going to cost the upper end of the scale.... if you're just looking for a pet, well, then you might not want what I have to offer.... but, if you're looking to breed??? You get what you pay for??? How many times have you seen ads that state their animals will be sold from $200-$500?? Why do you suppose that is??  There are quite a few dealers out there that think the same way I do.... there will ALWAYS be a market for the best! That's what I deal in....

....Neil
 
I'd like to point out that this is not just a violation of PayPal's Terms of Service (for which they will jerk your account if you are caught), this is a violation of State Law in most States.
 
I hate to get involved in this thread but I must. How can you complain about Mike charging %3 for paypal or splitting it when his prices are MUCH BETTER then anybody else out there. Mike makes almost no profit on the majority of the animals he sells. He's not some money hungry jerk he charges %300 markup like alot of the people in the business. Give him a break, I have bought 6-7 animals from him and every single one would have been sold for atleast %50 higher by most of the people out there. Mike is a great guy...I'll eat the 3% to save $200.

Keep up the good work Mike...

Charles
 
I don't think anyone is particularly upset about the money aspect of the transaction Charles.  I sincerely doubt that a 3% bump in any price is going to make or break anyone.  Also, no one is impuning the man's animals or prices...I am sure they are fine.  The point is that his policy is illegal.  He may not be aware of this but it doesn't change the fact.  

Paypal is ,essentially, an online Mercahnt Services Account.  We dealers get all the benefits of a standard Merchant Services account without the majority of the paperwork and bookeeping headaches.  Paypal handles most of those automatically.  We also have the instant gratification of being paid immediately and the elimination of no-show payments promised in the mail not to mention NSF checks.  The benefits to the seller far outweigh the benefits to the buyer although there are some for the buyer.  I, for one, find it to be the best money I spend all year.  

If the gentleman in question is operating on a margin that is impacted that strongly by the 3% charge, then the simple solution is to raise his prices by 3%.  I doubt any sales would be lost and the issue would then resolved.  However, he is obviously losing some customers due to this policy.  He also eliminates the risk of losing his account if Paypal becomes aware of his practice.
 
You may want to do some research before mentioning paypal and their TOS . Paypal is about to get their %$@ sued because the operate as a financial institution without following the majority of the government guidelines. Paypal does NOT follow the governing laws of this nation so why should we follow theirs?

PayPal
 
hahahahahaha, just bored @ work <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> raising some hell . Paypal's TOS doesn't really concern me...just being a pain in the @%& . They are somewhat illegal as a company.
 
Neil,
I have seen your pics and maybe you should invest in a decent digital cam cause the one you have well leaves alot to be desired?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
Neil your a pet shop so how you say investment quality is beyond me???
I have seen your typical veilds and snakes and so on and see nothing different than everyone sles is selling???
You don't need to charge a box or heat or paypal fee because what you want for the reptiles along with your shipping prices covers it and then some??
True charge what you like i have no prob with that. But don't say someone is wrong for charging a 3% fee on there already low prices ehrn you charge an arm and a leg for run of the mill reptiles???
Spare me the investment quality they are what they are run of the mill?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
 
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