mrbigzsnakes aka william beard

[snakegetters]

Tanith, the only thing freezing would get rid of would be some bacterial pathogens (right?) and I really don't think there were any in this case. Most other problems will still be evident.

Er, 'fraid not. Freezing is going to substantially change the appearance of all the tissues so that many types of pathology will no longer be apparant. As an example, if you open a fresh specimen and see red, raw looking lungs with liquid in them, you have a huge clue as to what happened to the animal. If you open a frozen specimen and see the same thing, that tells you absolutely nothing. That's just what happens when you freeze that tissue.

Some types of discolorations in other internal organs will survive freezing, others will not. Freezing can produce discolorations that can superficially resemble pathologies.

If you are looking for evidence of parasites, forget it - the freezer turns all that to mush on a microscopic level. Similarly it blasts all the cells and breaks them, the blood, the cells making up the internal organs, everything. So if you wanted to look at the blood count or a section of an organ under the 'scope to check for inclusions, microabscesses, trauma, etc, you're out of luck on a frozen specimen.

Lucky for you the main question here is the nutritional status of this animal, and you will be able to determine that on gross pathology even on a frozen animal.

 

[Gregg M]

So now you are saying that an animal that is sick or not eating the first mouse you put infront of it, is worthless???? You did say that, right???? I will make another point here....... If your friend does not have time for an animal that is a problem then he should not keep anything...... Why? you ask....... Because any animal can become a "problem" at any time..... Who are you kidding, you killed that snake by pushing food down its neck within the first week when you should have been leaving it alone and allowing it to settle in...... Now you are trying to but the blame on the seller..... I am not trying to attack you...... There has just been alot of things being said without the proof to back it up........ That would be like me making a post about you without the proof..... How is someone going to know who is telling the truth or not?????

 

[evansnakes]

Again Greg, you have no reason to post on this thread, you don't know how to read and being the moron you keep demonstrating you are I have to explain what I wrote in every previous entry every time you add to this thread because you just keeping not reading and not comprehending a thing. Learn how to read you ignorant ignorant person. I said very clearly on several occasions that the snake was recieved, offered rodents, Did not eat, was offered frogs, did not eat, lizards, did not eat, AND THEN, "WEEKS" later, was force fed. It digested the food well and looked fine. Then ANOTHER WEEK later was force fed again and not only looked good but had a good bowel movement ALL OF THIS IS CLEARLY STATED MULTIPLE TIMES IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS. ANOTHER WEEK LATER, the animal died. So Greg, when you post that I did not let it settle in, and then force fed it a week after we got it, you are not only a tremendous jacka** who can't seem to read, but again you prove my point that you are attacking me when I am contributing to a thread you should not be posting in. How many stupid, off topic, just plain moronic and wrong statements will you make before you shut up and go away? How about you read this damn thread before you post another moron post? You are just a loser who has nothing better to do then attack me when I am trying to post information that is important to others. Why is it that everyone else posting on this thread now has read and comprehended the situation but you just keep putting your foot in your huge mouth?

I am done with you Greg. Every stupid comment you make is totally nonsense if you would read the thread. From now on post or not, you do not exist.

 

[evansnakes]

One last note, just for you Greg, when you said how will anyone know who is telling the truth, if you read the thread, William has acknowledged that the animal did not eat and offered to send another free of charge. This can be verified with him. Also, he acknowledged that the snake was not shipped in a crate in his earlier post. If you would just read the damn text as written you would know what the truth is as he has said almost everything that I have. Now I am done with you. Learn to read and you won't find this so difficult.

 

[bud mierkey]

I agree with greg

I don't whine every time a snake dies months after I got it .
and the name calling problem you have shows a childish nature
of temper tantrums how sad.
also I thought you were not allowed to post third party
The snake was not your deal and thats just rule breaking.
If I was will I would not ship you anything ever!

 

[Gregg M]

Ok now I just double checked Willys post and he said nothing even close to what you just said...... Just incase I missed it again can you please post a quote where he says thiese things..... And as Bud pointed out please stop with the name calling..... And what exactly is a moron post????? Would'nt that be a moronic post???? There has been alot of name calling by you and there is still no post from you proving anything...... It is your unknown word to Willys good rep...... You should have your friend write a post WITH PROOF...... Oh wait he is too busy with his intence job......