Info My dealing with Cobain1309 (Chris Grisham)

[mikepanzarella]

The ad was posted no TOS
You can't make them up after the transaction was made

 

[cobain1309]

Mike you are done,out of gas.you have no credibility do not insert token.
Look up the word integrity learn it and live it. You have been caught in ur own lie's
Chris Grisham A.K.A. cobain1309

 

[NIGRO51]

PayPal
I do not get into gossip. I let the facts speak for themselves.I would use caution with this guy.

As of right now the facts say that you shorted an order by a lot and your lack of explanation only shows no care for your name in this business. Good luck. You are gonna need it in every part of your life if this is the effort you put forth.

 

[mikepanzarella]

Ill admit yes I did make a few mistakes
1 not figuring out how to sort them right away and weighing the total
2 missing the email where he told me how much he was going to be short
3 rounding the 16.15 to 17 ounces
But the point is in your own words you said you sent 1.7 pounds (27 ounces ) in the 2nd package with all the packing stuff and its very clear on the scale it's just over 16 ounces
Im on my way now ill post the PayPal stuff ASAP

 

[Dbz4246]

Mike you are done,out of gas.you have no credibility do not insert token.
Look up the word integrity learn it and live it. You have been caught in ur own lie's
Chris Grisham A.K.A. cobain1309

So far nothing has changed, and you have shown nothing to even attempt to clear your name. As it stands, you sir are in the wrong. Usually I try to see both sides before putting fault on a party. All you have done is post a "paypal" claim that could easily been typed by you, and call the OP a liar. So far, I see you as the liar.

 

[cobain1309]

Drive careful wear seatbelt. you purchased 3,600 worms with both orders you got over 7.000 you were never shorted . well good luck mike but I have other rhings more important. plus isn't it kind of late for you to be up on a school nite.

 

[Dbz4246]

Drive careful wear seatbelt. you purchased 3,600 worms with both orders you got over 7.000 you were never shorted . well good luck mike but I have other rhings more important. plus isn't it kind of late for you to be up on a school nite.

It's like throwing salt in your own wounds...

 

[mikepanzarella]

heres what I can see from paypal
the other part I spoke to them on the phone so I can not prove that they told me I won the case

 

[mikepanzarella]

Chris can you show me one thing that proves im wrong about this whole transaction
in case you deleted all the email and pictures I sent you they are on the 1st page

I also dont have 7000 worms never even came close to sending me that many the only thing I have is the one cup that was giving to my friend but I think the $8 paid for shipping the worms back to you is more then a fair payment for them

 

[cobain1309]

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Flag this messageYou won your reversed payment case. Your funds are available. Hello chris Grisham,

Thanks for providing information about the recent bank reversal. We
carefully reviewed the information and determined that you will not be held
liable for this reversal.

Any funds that may be on hold are now available in your PayPal account.


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Transaction Details
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Buyer's name: Island Reptiles
Buyer's email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5VX51899W3367491G

Transaction date: Dec 23, 2012
Transaction amount: $70.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 4HP927584T838823P
Case number: PP-002-178-273-778


Thanks,

PayPal
I do not get into gossip. I let the facts speak for themselves.I would use caution with this guy.

Here is the pay pal email they sent me showing ur money becoming available to me, and why.wonder why you never got one HUMMM.
You went wrong by trying to extort and use pay pal as a threat(they call that extortion).The only problem I saw was when the USPS misshipped during the holiday's causing a two dsy delay. That was out of my control.Just for your knowledge the small deli cup holds 1000 plus larvea. Plus you were under the inpression you can turn them in to flies for ur mantis after learning that you could not you decided you did not want them anymore. You tried everything you could think of to get refund. Out of courtesy I shipped you a second order.
And as for the T.O.S. you vialated paypal's you should not of been so dificult to work with. When I requested you ship them back to me you should of done that then, Also when I got them back it looked like you wet the median you need to keep them dry.They were D.O.A.

 

[mikepanzarella]

they never turned into flies so I wouldnt even know if my mantises could eat them
as for the paypal they refunded the $70 if you look at the actual pictures I just posted it shows that
the 1st shipment you sent me was a mistake and you even admitted to that so you just lied.
1000+ worms weighs more then one ounce
the 2nd shipment had 5 containers 3 larger ones with a red lid and 2 smaller ones that were clear plastic that would mean if you sent the right amount (you didnt) it would only be averaged to 720 worms

screenshot of the emails

 

[mikepanzarella]

yes I tried everything to get a refund because you shorted me by more then 1/2 what was paid for
as for the way they were shipped back it was the same way the 1st shipment was sent to me in there food wet rolled oats

heres the email where you told me that

 

[cobain1309]

Here is the pay pal email they sent me showing ur money becoming available to me, and why.wonder why you never got one HUMMM.
You went wrong by trying to extort and use pay pal as a threat(they call that extortion).The only problem I saw was when the USPS misshipped during the holiday's causing a two dsy delay. That was out of my control.Just for your knowledge the small deli cup holds 1000 plus larvea. Plus you were under the inpression you can turn them in to flies for ur mantis after learning that you could not you decided you did not want them anymore. You tried everything you could think of to get refund. Out of courtesy I shipped you a second order.
And as for the T.O.S. you vialated paypal's you should not of been so dificult to work with. When I requested you ship them back to me you should of done that then, Also when I got them back it looked like you wet the median you need to keep them dry.They were D.O.A.

mike you received almost double what you paid for. I only ship worms out in dry oats or sawdust. The pound is a measurement I use to count them when they are first haevested wet as they dry of course they will lose wheight that is common sense, But it doese not change the count. I also sell one pound of red wigglers approxamatly 10,000 worms.in three days duting shipping they only wheigh 1/2 pound.but they still got the amount they paid for as did you.

 

[cobain1309]

Flag this messageYou won your reversed payment case. Your funds are available. (Case # PP-002-178-273-778)Monday, February 11, 2013 11:25 AM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified"[email protected]" <[email protected]>Add sender to ContactsTo: [email protected]ello chris Grisham,

 

[mikepanzarella]

mike you received almost double what you paid for. I only ship worms out in dry oats or sawdust. The pound is a measurement I use to count them when they are first haevested wet as they dry of course they will lose wheight that is common sense, But it doese not change the count. I also sell one pound of red wigglers approxamatly 10,000 worms.in three days duting shipping they only wheigh 1/2 pound.but they still got the amount they paid for as did you.

you say you only ship in dry oats or sawdust
does that look like dry oats it was mush and you even said yourself the mush is their food
I understand using weight to average count its how we count large amount of roach nymphs

 

[cobain1309]

Hello chris Grisham,

Thanks for providing information about the recent bank reversal. We
carefully reviewed the information and determined that you will not be held
liable for this reversal.

Any funds that may be on hold are now available in your PayPal account.


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Transaction Details
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Buyer's name: Island Reptiles
Buyer's email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5VX51899W3367491G

Transaction date: Dec 23, 2012
Transaction amount: $70.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 4HP927584T838823P
Case number: PP-002-178-273-778

Mike that was the shipment that got lost a few day's.That is why I reshipped you a second order imediatly no charge.
Thank You
Chris

 

[mikepanzarella]

Hello chris Grisham,

Thanks for providing information about the recent bank reversal. We
carefully reviewed the information and determined that you will not be held
liable for this reversal.

Any funds that may be on hold are now available in your PayPal account.


-----------------------------------
Transaction Details
-----------------------------------


Buyer's name: Island Reptiles
Buyer's email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5VX51899W3367491G

Transaction date: Dec 23, 2012
Transaction amount: $70.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 4HP927584T838823P
Case number: PP-002-178-273-778

can you provide a screen shot of this?
I think its odd that they would rule in your favor and not notify me that I would owe them money
I have provided screen shots of my paypal showing the refund and the case being closed with just the one email to you as the last update
when I called they said it was closed and you would be charged back the money I dont understand why they would lie to me about that.

 

[mikepanzarella]

so your saying you offered to ship me 200% of what I paid for because it was a few days late in the mail
for a total of 10800 worms sent for a few days late come on thats ridiculous
I would of been fine had they only been a few days

pic 1 shows the 1st package it only has two red lid containers
pic 2 shows the 2nd package it has 5 containers total
you expect anyone to believe they had the same amount of worms in them

 

[Lucille]

>> From: c grisham <[email protected]>
>> To: mike panzarella <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Phoenix worms
>>
>> Mike, I did not pack that order.

mike you received almost double what you paid for. I only ship worms out in dry oats or sawdust. The pound is a measurement I use to count them when they are first haevested wet as they dry of course they will lose wheight that is common sense, But it doese not change the count. I also sell one pound of red wigglers approxamatly 10,000 worms.in three days duting shipping they only wheigh 1/2 pound.but they still got the amount they paid for as did you.

How can you be so certain of the amount your customer received in the first shipment when you did not pack it?

 

[NIGRO51]

No matter how this turns out I would never even think about purchasing anything from you. Your communication skills leave a lot to be desired.