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I traded for a retic back in February of this year. She is the female tiger het albino. I got her in and quarantined her for 60 days(a little closer to 70 in all actuallity) with no issues. She ate great, shed great, normal stool and that normal potent retic urine :) . Then I fed her a large rat back on June 24th with no issues as usual. Then about a week later I gave her a rat which she regurged. I checked her heat tape, fine, temps and humidity good, ventalation was not as great as it could be so I changed her setup. Then I noticed she had develped a little case of mouth rot almost and resp had come along as well. I was very worried and got in and cleaned her mouth several times and turned up the temp a few degrees to see if she would kick it. After a few weeks her mouth was clear and no signs of resp at all. I tried to feed her, and she regurged again. I decided to run some panacur through her to see if that would clear things up. I gave her a proper dosage a few times and then gave her a couple weeks. She shed normally(full shed) and has passed normal stool and urine since all this. Now the other day she regurged again. I am looking for a vet that can actually run a fecal on a snake, but in the time being....any ideas. I owe my regular vet money, so he isnt going to see the animal without me paying that substantial debt first, and I dont have enough for all that. Thanks for any input. If feed/shed records and such would help I have all of that, as well as times of regure and such. Thanks, Dan M.
 
Well, I'll forego the usual questions about enclosure and temperature for the time being (but kick the temps back to mid-range, unless there is currently a reason not to)...Based on your own posts, you have a penchant for pushing food aggressively. Realistically, was either the last rat kept down, or the first one regurged, a bit oversized for the snake? There are a number of things that can cause repeated regurgitation - inappropriate temperatures, GI obstruction(, injury, or necrosis), certain internal parasites, "stripping" of normal flora, GI irritation......
Give her two to three weeks, then try going with a smaller than normal prey item - hairless, if possible - and sprinkling it with some Nutribac (you might even consider taking the water out for a few days between now and then, then giving her water with some Nutribac in it).
 
The original rat was definately kept down as it was a large rat, and the one regurged was a small(it was regurged fairly shortly after eating, mere hours, and the rat was still in one piece). With her she has never been what I consider a good eater. With my other retics I kill three or so rats and through them in the cage and they eat them one at a time. She only eats what I actually hand to her, so she usually doesnt get as much to eat as the others do, as I usually feed late and dont have the patience to sit up for ever waiting for her. I will post some of the info I have on her if it will help. Right now her hot spot is set at exactly 90, and her ambient about 81-85 throughout the day with a cool spot in the low eighties to high seventies at lowest. Her and my other tiger are set up exactly the same. Same level of the rack, same water dish, same size bin, same everything, and she is doing poorly and the other is flourishing. There is a definate difference in size as well. The one is almost 7.5/8 feet and she is still about 5 which is what leads me to believe she has something. Like I said she eats a bit less, but still she should be larger at her age. She hasnt really grown but maybe a few inches since February, whereas the other has grown about 4+ feet since January. It is hard to compare since they arent clutch mates, and you never know what local could be mixed in your retics these days. The one that is sick did come from RJ....so that may be the issue right there given some of the horror stories I have heard. I stopped worrying after she was quarantined with no signs of issues, but alas here I am. Here is a chart of some of the stuff that has gone on if it will help. I didn't really write anything down in march, but she ate a few rats, 1 a week or so, and she had been in Shed when I got her at the Berks show in Feb. I don't handle her just to handle her, she only comes out for cage cleaning, and occasionally in early summer she went outside for a bit here or there to just stretch out, and she absolutely loves to "hunt" outside, though the birds see her orange :censored: from like 50 feet away lol. She will never catch anything, not that I would let her anyway.

Het Albino Tiger:
3/30 Shed
4/3 2 sm Rats
4/9 3 sm Rats
4/14 3 sm Rats
4/16 1 sm rat
4/17 1 sm rat
4/18 1 sm rat
4/20 2 sm rats
4/25 1 med rat
4/29 1 med rat
5/7 shed
5/8 3 sm rats
5/14 2 med rats
5/20 4 sm rats
5/30 3 sm rats
6/2 3 sm rats
6/7 1 md rat
6/9 Shed
6/17 1 sm guinea pig
6/24 1 large rat
7/2 2 small rats
7/3 Regurge 1 rat
7/10 shed
7/17 1 sm rat
7/18 regurge
7/24 Noticed Resp and mouth issues. Cleaned mouth and also gave her treatment of Panacur in case something is internal. Have not seen any signs of such, but suspicious due to regurging.

After this my record keeping kind of went to crap, but she had a few more panacur treatments, cleaned her mouth a couple times, has shed again in late August, and then regurged the other rat last week at some point(I believe Saturday). I am not familiar with the nutribac....where would I find that...beanfarm maybe? What exactly is it and does it do? The things I currently have in my "arsenal" if you will are, panacur, Flagyl, Betadine, Parazap(Never used it on a snake though it says its fine) and a few other irrelevent things. Now all the rats she has eaten were either bred by me or my friend, not from anywhere else. The guinea pig was the only thing from an outside source, however she is a private breeder who has supplied our guinea pigs for years, and all of my friends and my snakes have always eaten them and never an issue. She breeds them for shows believe it or not and we get ones that have too many colors, or arent show confirmation(yes there are guinea pig shows lol) Not saying it cant be from there, but just unlikely. Anyways hopefull some of this info may help to spot some possible culprits either in my care, or something else. I am new to the regurging thing in my collection. Have only had one other snake regurge ever and that was a malfunction of her heating element that sent her temps to high after a meal, and other than that I have never had one do it. Basically its not a problem I am used to trouble shooting. Well thats about it for now, Dan M.
 
Nutribac is a probiotic - basically a powdered mixture of micro organisms that are supposed to be in a reptile's GI system. The Bean Farm may have it...I'm not sure (I don't remember where I got mine last year.

Not to raise red flags and sound alarms, but she should go back into quarantine - some of the things that can cause this are highly contagious.
 
I know......I need to get over there and move her, hopefully I can do so today. Biggest problem is someone stole my other thermostat(long story) so I need to get an extension cord so I can run her off of mine, without her being in the same room as my rock(who is in quarantine now, but appears in stellar health). Thanks, and I will look into where I can get that nutribac from, and continue to see if I can get a fecal done at one of the local vets(you figure that wouldnt be difficult for them, but we shall see). At least then I would know what I am attacking if there is something present that doesnt belong. Anyone know if pluging heat tape in to an extension cord and then into the powerstip on the thermostat would cause any fluctuation in the amout of power it is receiving, as my probe in on the rocks heat tape? Dan M.
 
Just so anyone following this knows should they be interested, the Bean Farm does have it. I just ordered some about 2 minutes ago, it was $10, not bad at all. We shall see how long it takes to get here, overnight was outrageous($41 and change) so I sent it ground Commercial to work. We shall hope for the best. Thanks for the advice thus far! Hopefully she pulls out of it, she is one of the most beautiful tigers I have ever seen as far as color and pattern goes. My fault for doing the trade(which I took a huge loss on to begin with). I had no cash and she was just soo nice looking I had to have her at all cost. I lost about $400 or more in trade value to get her lol. Oh well, she is a great girl. Dan M.
 
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