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Need opinions on a bad deal with Tim Bowles of Arboreals of the Rainforest!!!

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UPDATE!!!

Tim paid me today through my Paypal account. I also got an email from him but nothing was on it, only an image that couldn't load so I couldn't see what was on the image. Either way Tim made good on his payment with me. I have known Tim for about 4 years now and he was ALWAYS very nice to me. He always paid me for everything he asked me to do. We even spoke about our kids to each other from time to time. I've never met him in person but I never doubted him when he asked me to do work for him that he would pay me. Maybe he fell on hard times? Maybe something happened and he made some choices that shouldn't have been made? I don't know. I know I don't always make the right choice and end up in a mess that I regret later. Either way things need to be straightned out for everyone.

To me, Tim paying me shows that he still is a nice guy, at least to me he is. I still have a hard time believing that he's intentionally hurting people but I am not involved in any of the other dealings so I can only speak for my own experiences. I really hope that EVERYONE involved has a favorable resolution to whatever their dealings may be with Tim. I don't hold any hard feelings toward him, I only hope that things work out for him and all of you. I am going to put his site back up since his plan with me runs until June. Good luck to everyone.

Tim, I wish you the best for you and your family. I hope everything works out good for you. take care.




Sincerely,
Albert Pena
 
Hey Albert,

Good for you :D He got caught again and paid up because of you posting your opinions and issues with him......good job. That's what this site is for!

I am going to put his site back up since his plan with me runs until June.
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I hope you got paid in advance this time!
 
Hey Albert, Giving Tim the good guy is a bit over board, I guess the $ 2500 he took from Matt and the vacation he went on a week later was more important, LOL.
With him not returning your calls and e-mails shows his true color. Only now that you posted this in public did he make good to you.
 
More to the picture, no picture, picture thing....

ScottsReptiles
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I guess you will never know about the pictures I have... but obviously.. from both you and your lover Nett's post.. you can't stop wondering.

You two make a nice couple... the both of you can man up!

Scott Axel

AIM: Scotch999
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Since he can't seem to find this site anymore to post the truth

:rolleyes: here is the latest from Mr. Axel.....now he says he has the pictures after initially claiming he had them then didn't have them, now he is saying he has them again? Where are you Scott? Come here and post the pics.........

The thread he started about me can be found here
Click here for ScottsReptiles Thread about Ghi Reptiles

Very articulate isn't he?
 
Very good point Jim! Good luck Albert and I hope you feel you are doing the right thing...........How long before you think the site will be up and running?
 
I have read most of the posts that were part of this thread from the very beginning.....there have been many opinions posted as well as people expressing their feelings about things that were done or not done, depending on who is posting.
I have had many people fall short of what I had believed in my heart about them...I have had people in this business that have done me financial harm also....I think we learn and grow from those things that we are able to overcome..
I am not trying to be some super spiritual person here, just an attempt to express my heart about what I see as something sad that we are becoming as men
this does not relate to everyone so if it does not fit then please throw it away
this thread was started as an attempt to get peoples opinions on how to properly deal with an incident between 2 parties that had business dealings with each other..
it has become something totally different.
Hasnt there been enough said , enough accuzations..enough slandering..enough offence...
I know that things are no longer black and white..that there is always some gray areas mixed in...offence is like a cancer that eats away at us and causes us to actually feed it as it gets so deep inside us that it seems to have its way with us.
the only way to get rid of it is thru forgiveness and moving on..I am not saying that you become friends again or do business again..I am not dumb..I am saying to forgive a person his wrongs as we all sometimes fall short ..who here is the barometer of good?
I think everyone here has formed an opinion one way or the other from what they have read, whether they know the truth or the parties involved or not..thats what the BOI does..GOOD OR BAD....Tim Bowles hasnt always done wrong things and from those on here that defend him he must have friends that think enough of him to stand with him..right or wrong..Its the same with Matt..
I know that we can make mistakes and that we have the power to change..forgiveness allows this to be possible..
Are we branded for life if we drop the ball ??? If so then no one here is any good or has any good thing in them...
it isnt what goes in a man that defiles him but what issues out of his heart...these are the things that can be changed..
it is time to move on...if we are truely men then let us act as men and allow reconsiliation to take the day....who will be that man?
Michael Ball
 
Question Mike.....

Do I still forgive when Tim Bowles has a picture of a toilet bowl full of feces and my face 'photoshopped' in the middle of it with deragatory comments on it too......on his Redtailboa site? Or do I just blow it off and realize this type of action is now expected from him? What do you think Mike....will it ever end or since he is on a downhill slide anyway does he even care and will he be like the energizer bunny posting and harrassing me for the rest of my natural herping life?
 
Originally posted by Tim Bowles of Arboreals of the Rainforest
Go back and reread all these pages of posts and you will see you are wrong according to everyone but you and poor lil Jimbo of course.
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So if this is your way of thinking Tim I assume I will be getting a full refund from you immediately for the sick emerald you sold me that subsequently had to be destroyed and the almost $1,000.00 in vet bills. Why don't you go back and reread all of these pages of posts and you will see you were wrong for what you did. That's about $3,500.00.....a bank check will be fine. ;)
 
YES ....... forgiveness in this case is for you, it releases you from the bondage of offence,
You can only be responsible for your actions and words..dont play into the trap again..your second post is already stirring up the old residue in you that must die, open your eyes Matt..you know who and what you are..stop defending yourself against a defeated foe.
every time we think we have the truth, we use it to judge others..
when truth becomes a highway that you continuely travel on and not a destination point then we stop our judgements as we know that we only posess a measure of truth .
love and forgiveness never fails..
 
ballcrew said:
YES ....... forgiveness in this case is for you, it releases you from the bondage of offence,
You can only be responsible for your actions and words..dont play into the trap again..your second post is already stirring up the old residue in you that must die, open your eyes Matt..you know who and what you are..stop defending yourself against a defeated foe.
every time we think we have the truth, we use it to judge others..
when truth becomes a highway that you continuely travel on and not a destination point then we stop our judgements as we know that we only posess a measure of truth .
love and forgiveness never fails..
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I love you fat Timmy <font color=red>[bleep]</font>pants and I forgive you.

You complete and utter twat:D.
 
I hate injustice as much or more as the next guy..I guess that the BOI is sometimes meant to present situations before a board of judges or peers to recieve factual truth relating to or about a particular situation.
Its all the other stuff (name calling, slander character assasinations, colored remarks) that seem to make us look like little kids and not men.
My father told me that you didnt have to say anything about a man , but that each mans deeds would find him out...
I am still trying to learn this as I have run my big mouth about many people..as I look back it has always been because of pride...my own pride.
well Robert I guess that was at least a start
 
Im sorry..I should have said Richard..not Robert..sorry to all the Roberts out there that might be reading this.
Michael R. Ball
 
Locked?

I guess this thread is unlocked now? Can a thread still be viewed when it is locked?
 
Didn't know that!

I didn't know you could read locked threads. I guess the moderators just get sick of the childish behavior and that's why threads get locked down every once in awhile. Still a great informative site though guys! It really lets people know, both new to the herp world and ones who have been around for awhile, who the good guys are , the bad guys are, and the completely insane guys are! Believe me there are all of the above around so be careful who you deal with and read up about them first ;)

Thanks again for the great site!
 
Hey Matt,
There seems to be a warrant for your arrest in Ohio for felonly menacing by stalking.

When are you coming up here to face yet again another felony charge against you?

You are right, everyone should know who they are dealing.

See you soon.
 
hey tim how are the green tree python forums? Aer you sad that no one wants to talk to you, so you go on there, and still get no reply? lol
Now i know not to post any pictures including myself on those forums because you will take them and alter then in vulgar and just weird ways like you did in the past. How was that gtp that you sold greg gibbs. I heard it didnt do too well, similar to the one you sent matt, and screwed him. I hope your big arboreal business is going great!
 
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