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Need opinions on a bad deal with Tim Bowles of Arboreals of the Rainforest!!!

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5) this is a pathetic case of misrepresentation, fraud and I would say animal abuse, I also wonder if tim being a nurse has made his employers aware that he keeps and handles reptiles, this is pretty important if he works in pediatrics where salmonella can be fatal to infants and immune surpassed people, not that he doesn’t take expert care of himself to make sure he is free from bacteria and the like but his employer should have known this fact as it is up to them whether to allow him to work around these patients or not.
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Mat,
I agree with most of your post and your assessment of Tim but this quote is a little ridiculous. I'm a paramedic and I treat pediatrics and patients with compromised immune systems on a daily basis. I also shower atleast once a day and wash my hands thoroughly after dealing with my reptiles or my patients. I'm also wearing gloves whenever I have contact with a patient. As long as a medical professional practices good personal hygiene this shouldn't be an issue. Keeping reptiles as pets should not be a factor when seeking employment in the medical field.
When you get done with nursing school are you going to tell your future employers that you were cleaning snake #### last night?
How about the nurse who handles raw chicken while cooking dinner? Should she also be required to notify her employer?
 
Yes i intend to let my future employers know that i keep retiles just i have done with all of my employers when working in the health care field. i have worked in health care for the last 6 years as neuromusclar therpaist, i keep the utmost hygene routine. it is not a case of patient care it is a case of liabilty,. yes you are correct that handling raw chicken you probably have more of achance at getting salmonella than handling reptiles but if a case ever arrises that someone died of salmanella and i had contact with them and i didn't disclose my keeping of reptiles which everyone who hasn't a clue thinks all reptiels have it all the time i could put myself in a pickle, now if my employer knows this fact than they can't come back and say hey you have reptiles you gave this person X bacteria.

liabilty and CYA BRO

but maybe your right that part was a little off and maybe i din;t make it as clear as i wanted
 
Hey Mat,

First off this thread was to ask opinions of others that read about my particular experience. What happens to Tim's reputation is a direct result of his own actions and has nothing to do with me. He is a hobbiest and is not in it as a business. He has told me this many times before and I applaud him for obtaining such a nice collection. From what I am told Tim gets the 'bug' to collect certain reptiles on occaison and over the last two years it happened to be emeralds. He is now of course selling most if not all of them to get money to 'finish his basement', so he tells me. Hense the 'change' again in his collection. What happened in this deal is very unfortunate and I think it will get others thinking of all sorts of things to do when shipping and receiving reptiles.

By the way Matt that female you were after has been sold for awhile but Tim never took it off his site.
 
Ghi Reptiles said:
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In this case Matt, I would say a result of his "inactions"!

Tim should have given you an immediate and complete refund and come clean about this animals illness with a heartfelt appology on this board. Perhaps Tim was "in denial" and thought the animal was cured and on its way to recovery. In that case this was a hard lesson to be learned and never repeated. But Tim has shown no remorse whatsoever!

The fact of Tim's tacetness here and his lack of concern about making his customer happy speaks volumes. Tim is doing the same thing here that Mr. Joe P did when Tim was on his all over this board about his bad deal with Joe!.....he is hiding his head in the sand and hoping it will all go away. If I recall correctly, at least Joe offered Tim a refund even though his puking emerald supposedly infected Tim's two wildcaughts.

Furthermore, If Tim is so completely anal about his deals that he feels he must go to the trouble of documenting all emails, witnessing phone conversations, not responding here for legal reasons, etc...Then, he most surely should have documented this snake's health with photos dated just before shipping, his vet's stamp of approval on the animal's health, etc, etc.......right??
There is in my mind, no excuse at all for Tim not giving an immediate refund !!

This is the ugliest arboreal deal I've seen in a long, long time.

John Hedger
 
Hey Hedge,

On another site Bobby Pruett said that Tim actually has pictures of the snake and box before shipping. Now if this were true wouldn't you think Tim would have said "relax Matt here are the pics showing the animal was in perfect condition when she went into the box", or "here is my vert certificate showing the animal was in perfect health the day of shipping", or something of the like? There is no way with his banner just to the right that he would have taken the thrashing from all of the viewers that he did and he would have certainly loved to shut everybody up. And instead of posting some lame e-mail that was sent after the fact, he would have posted the pictures. I don't know what's going on but there sure seems to be some funny things going on in Ohio.
 
Matt

I was just wondering if you could give us an update on the snakes is doing?I have been following this thread from the get go and havent seen an update on it lately.
 
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Hey Hedge,

On another site Bobby Pruett said that Tim actually has pictures of the snake and box before shipping. Now if this were true wouldn't you think Tim would have said "relax Matt here are the pics showing the animal was in perfect condition when she went into the box", or "here is my vert certificate showing the animal was in perfect health the day of shipping", or something of the like? There is no way with his banner just to the right that he would have taken the thrashing from all of the viewers that he did and he would have certainly loved to shut everybody up. And instead of posting some lame e-mail that was sent after the fact, he would have posted the pictures. I don't know what's going on but there sure seems to be some funny things going on in Ohio.
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LoL... its the water out here I think!
 
Matt what site would that be? Alot of us would like to see it. It is just hard to believe he put anything out. He does not seem to want to tell his side on here. After what all has been said I think I would defend myself. But that is me I dont know how he is.
Yes I would like to kow how the snake is doing too. Please let us know.
Thanks Shawn
 
Hey Shawn,

I havent seen any yet but that is what a friend of his is saying. Who knows? She is still alive but doing poorly today.
 
Hey Matt, I was hoping for better news on her. I am hoping for the best for you. Hate to see all this happening. I wish her the best and you too.
If you find out what site he has put them in will you let us all know? Thanks for keeping me informed about her.
See ya,
Shawn
 
Hey Shawn,

I guess what I am saying is there are no pictures. He told one of his friends he had no recent pics of her. Another friend of his is trying to help him by saying this to me. I guess he thinks I am nieve.
 
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Matt

You are not getting any rest huh. Two threads over 200 posts wow.

I still would like to see them pics that Tim has if he has them. But right now it seems to me that we will never see them.
 
I do find something mildly humorous in all this mess...

For ONCE, we have someone who claims to have retained legal council, was possibly told to keep quiet, and actually SHUT UP! lol

I guess someone that WAS on the good side and chasing bad guys learned from their mistakes and is keeping his mouth shut. Though of course, it doesn't make anyone here think any better of him.

Though I am a bit confused, didn't Tim host the Arboreals Gathering earlier this year at his home? It would seem that he's going through an aweful lot of trouble to just flush whatever rep he had down the lou. It's a real shame...

Oh, and whoever got that "ready to breed" female(sorry, I don't remember your name at this moment, but I know I should), I don't think you owe Tim Bowles another DIME. He did not hold up to his end of the bargain, and he sent you an animal that is not what you were paying for. You were paying for a female emerald that could breed this year. You received a female that still has at least another year or two to go before she could breed. If it was me in your shoes, I'd just keep the extra $600 you owed him and use it to invest in a female that actually CAN breed this year.
 
And Yes he hosted the arboreal Gathering. Greg Maxwell, Jeff Hudson, Tom Phillips and a few others were their also, And myself.
Tim invited me and apperintly was talking bad about me behind my back and telling people not to sell to me. and He then sent me this snake up front with no money down. ??

I am looking for a snake to breed this year and plan on buying that before paying Tim if he gets anything at all.
 
Jim,

I think holding off on the rest of the payment until she is actually ready to breed is a cool idea, though I personally think he should'nt get anymore from you than he already has, but what you are proposing is a novel idea. You were obviously lied to, and then when you complained, were offered no other solution but to feed her. Food won't make that snake breedable in the next couple of months.

What I find really interesting, Jim, is that he supposedly doesn't even like you, yet he sent you an animal with nothing down, then made his "friend" Matt pay the whole amount upfront on a mostly dead snake.

Sounds almost like an intentional scam to get Matt for whatever reason.

A real shame. Guess all his good guy work, morals, and business ethics have gone out the window.
 
I think he seen bigger dollars in his eyes. Our agreement was for me to pay $600 or come down to his place for a weekend and help him remodel his basement. ( I am a drywaller by trade Owner/ operator ) I told him I would like to come and work it off for a stake and a snake if I can get down there. ( I thought we were freinds ) So he sent it to me. I have not given him a dime yet.
 
Where are all the people who continually whine about the "BOI clique"? After all, since Tim has been around for so long and seen as a good guy throughout, shouldn't we all be willing to overlook his apparent turn in character and go pick on someone new to the BOI????

Just had to point it out for future whiners!



Tim,

Do what's right here. Your reputation may yet be salvageable, but that option dwindles away a bit more every day.
 
Rob Hill/Geckos Anonymous said:

Though I am a bit confused, didn't Tim host the Arboreals Gathering earlier this year at his home? It would seem that he's going through an aweful lot of trouble to just flush whatever rep he had down the lou. It's a real shame...
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Yes... and it was a very fun event! I hope we have more of them!!!
 
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