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Need opinions on a bad deal with Tim Bowles of Arboreals of the Rainforest!!!

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Man what did I miss? Who is Mike? Susan? George? Betty? I guess all of the comments by Bowles really changed everyones minds about me huh? You mean you guys don't believe what he says? You don't believe the judge down here caught me lying? You don't believe I stomped out of the courtroom? There was actually a much different picture painted then what really happened, but I guess that will come out in phase two, three, or four since the.....well you know, won't post any of it.

Man.........must be an Ohio thing ;) ?
 
I do have a serious question I would like to ask Tim Bowles lets see if he is man enough to answer it :D . You seem to have it in for me with the smuggling comments, F&G comments, name calling, hinting that I am going to be in trouble for selling patternless emeralds and basins, hinting with 'the next phase' comments, and a few other off color things.

What would you like to have happen to me in the end of all of this?

If you're the kind of man that you seem so desperately to want to show everyone you are, you will answer this one simple question.

Or is that an Ohio thing too?
 
Um, is all this "Florida thing" and "Ohio Thing" necessary? Seems to me that you guys are trying to be considered adult and mature... retorting to the "ohio thing" seems to me to be the sort of behaviour on a kindergarten playground "my dad can beat up your dad"

As far as this deal, I've done my best to keep up with everything on this thread from the very beginning. I don't know a single thing about patternless emeralds from the bronx, brazil, the everglades, or suriname, nor do I flipping care! Heck, I don't even know a thing about the variety of snake this entire thread is all about.

What I do know is the following:

Tim sent out a horribly sick snake. Blamed its bloated condition on UPS. When asked questions he never answers them, but absolutely LOVES to jump on anyone else who doesn't answer HIS questions. Though of course half his questions seem ridiculous, or worse unintelligible. So Tim sent the snake, never ever addresses that issue. He sits with his moronic potty-mouthed friends laughing over it. Well I know that little boys at camp love to sit around a campfire and burp and fart the loudest and laugh their little heads off. Little boys do this, and it's forgivable, they haven't learned any better. When Tim et al go around showing that they are still little boys, it only demonstrates their immaturity and by counterexample the maturity of the other main characters of this absurd "play".

Do I think that some of the main characters walk on water? Nope, indeed I consider all people as naturally flawed... the perfect ones aren't here anymore. But by example I know which one to trust.

Until Tim can act mature and answer FIVE pertinent questions about the snake he sent out sick, without asking ANY questions, making any childish references to anything else that others might be doing, I cannot respect him at all.

Do I think he cares? Nope. Those kids in the camping tent think it's funny when adults are grossed out by their behaviour. Tim has proven he thinks it's funny to send a mortally ill animal in the mail. Any decent post he makes will have me falling off my chair. But hey, I'm a high school teacher, I can always hope!
 
Hey Sasheena,

I do appologise for my part in the Ohio - Florida thing but it is more of a joke when answering to the constant rediculous posts from the Ohio people. I mean Scott has already lost his credibility with the 'Comparing pics Tim sent with ones Matt posted' and then the 'I have not recieved any pics from Tim' contradicting posts. And then the others that are involved too. So appologise to you Sasheena.
 
Hold on to your chair Sasheena!

Any decent post he makes will have me falling off my chair. But hey, I'm a high school teacher, I can always hope!
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Great post Sasheena!
Very eloquent.After 77 pages, it's all been said.Most people on here have an opinion on this subject.
It would probably be somewhat dead by now if Tim and his followers hadn't pushed the smuggling thing.If you want to really see how childish herpers can be, go to the War Room.It'll blow your mind!
I post on this thread because I love animals and because I value good friends.
Both of these were
betrayed in this deal!It's sad
but true that some people
put money over trust and
friendship.I don't really
love posting on this subject, but when Tim and his friends
come on here with their weak
excuses and made up stories,people are going to respond.The living animal
that Tim abused in this little
game deserves that much!
 
I have been trying to follow this thread, I take rests from it now and then lol.
I seem to recall Scott saying he has pics also, did I miss something or is he going to post those pictures? I would like to see them.
 
I seem to recall Scott saying he has pics also, did I miss something or is he going to post those pictures? I would like to see them.
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Uhhh......you missed something. He said he was comparing pics that Tim sent with ones I posted........then when challenged to post those pics he said he has been sent no pics. I assume he has not been back because he got caught in a little........well we will be nice and say, LIE.
 
I do have a serious question I would like to ask Tim Bowles lets see if he is man enough to answer it :D . You seem to have it in for me with the smuggling comments, F&G comments, name calling, hinting that I am going to be in trouble for selling patternless emeralds and basins, hinting with 'the next phase' comments, and a few other off color things.

What would you like to have happen to me in the end of all of this?

If you're the kind of man that you seem so desperately to want to show everyone you are, you will answer this one simple question.

Or is that an Ohio thing too?


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Sasheena,

You wrote, "When asked questions he [Time Bowles -- dkc] never answers them, but absolutely LOVES to jump on anyone else who doesn't answer HIS questions."

THAT, in my opinion, is the real issue for most people here on the BOI. Most of us have not been harmed by Tim in a monetary way, like Matt has been, and most of us have no possibility of having our animals exposed to whatever diseases may or may not be incubating at Tim's place. So how have we been harmed?

The members of the BOI have suffered because one of our own, who used to be one of the first to line up in a pursuit of the bad guys, has switched to the other side of equation. Tim used to be the one you could count on to keep asking the pertinent questions until they were answered, while making the bad guy squirm in the process. Now, he's making everyone squirm as we try to understand his complete and total turn around.

I haven't seen the transcripts of the court case being cited. I don't know enough about this case to make a definitive statement one way or the other. But I can say without a doubt that Tim has lost a lot more than that $2500 could ever compensate him for.

Honestly, no matter what else may transpire, Tim has lost his standing in the eyes of those who are looking to make this industry as reputable as they can. I have no respect, patience or time for hypocrites, and neither do a lot of other people here!
 
Lets see what kind of lies you are going to come with and get caught in again, Matt.

You know I have the transcripts, because you had the first recorder notarize some documents for you. She stated it in court.
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You see guys what we all have to put up with is statements like this one above by Mr. Bowles. If he has the transcripts dipicting me as a lying, twisting, wanting little boy who stomped out of the courtroom, why isn't he posting them? Could it be he doesn't have them?

Scott posted that Tim sent pics and Scott compared them with mine. Then Scott said Tim didn't send them. Then Scott disappears when he gets caught in an 'untruth'.

Mr. Bowles posts he read the transcripts and states how funny they are to read.....well enlighten all of us with the humor in them.

Some quotes:
The transccripsts were quite ammusing to read.
Care to tell some more lies Matt?
I have the transcripts of what everyone said and did on those dates.
C'mon Matt. If you want to run off at the mouth lets do it. Let's see you lie and I will prove you wrong again.

Then prove me wrong and post the entire transcripts you say you have :D
 
C'mon Matt. If you want to run off at the mouth lets do it. Let's see you lie and I will prove you wrong again.
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Are you not proving me wrong because I didn't lie? Do you have the transcripts? Let everyone see how much of a lying, story twisting, wanting little boy I am......you said you had them
The transccripsts were quite ammusing to read. I have the transcripts of what everyone said and did on those dates.
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.....so post the transcripts. I think the phrase 'put up or shut up' would apply nicely here don't you?
 
Ghi Reptiles said:
That's what I thought.....let that be an end to this thread.
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Not even close.



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When I had my court appearance I heard some pretty interesting things and couldn't have ever come up...
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Matt,

Prove what you mean. Run off at the mouth like your so fond of doing.

Lets see what kind of lies you are going to come with and get caught in again, Matt.

You know I have the transcripts, because you had the first recorder notarize some documents for you. She stated it in court.

Please run your mouth about what you "couldnt' have ever come up with"?

I will post them once you nut and become a man for a change and tell us all what you meant by that line in your post.

Stop twisting the truth King Lerer. Answer the questions.

Maybe leing, smuggling and twisting the truth must be a Florida thing? LOL

That's what I thought, you wont because you know have been caught in another of your famous twisting tails.:D
 
Maybe leing, smuggling and twisting the truth must be a Florida thing? LOL
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I, and quite a few other people on this site, reside in Florida, Tim. I thank you in advance for ceasing with this sort of prejudicial talk here.
 
Tim,

Why don't you stop spouting off at the mouth and post your supposed transcripts? If you have them as you say you do then post them. If they will prove anything that your spouting off about then post them and quit acting like a little child. You have yet to answer the questions put to you about this entire situation but you expect Matt to keep answering every and any questions you put forth to him. If the transcripts show anything against Matt then post them so everyone can see. I honestly think they will show more about you and not anything about Matt and that is why you refuse to post them. I could be wrong but that is what I think about the Transcripts.
 
It's not even worth asking this Bozoo any more questions. He won't answer anything because he can't! All he does is come back every few days and accuse Matt of something else.

Tim, why don't you just let this go so the thread will go to the bottom? You have never had anything but garbage to add!
 
I was going to copy the pics of the snake here, but will just post links backwards in the thread. If you want to answer theese questions fine, if not stop posting

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22036&perpage=5&pagenumber=1

That is the snake the day you sent it to Matt

DEFEND THAT

What you cant??????? Hmm then shut up, this thread and you make me sick. You are the lowest form of herper and person for that matter. People like you make me sick to be in this business.

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Funny

But wasnt the last big "round up" of bad herpers in OHIO

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Sorry in advance to everyone else in Ohio, and especially to anyone who was caught up in that bs, just thought it was funny a guy in ohio was slamming florida herpers.
 
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