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Neil Gubitz-Good guy and easy to deal with

Nice bit of sugar coating there gubitz.

Let me point out a couple of things I think you might hope most of us have not considered.

#1 You have admitted to the "mistakes" you've made only because they've been brought here to the BOI. How many of the hundreds of deals that you've made were with people that have NEVER heard of fauna or the BOI? My guess would be a considerable portion of them are ignorant of this sites existance. This leaves open the possibility that many many others out there have suffered from your not knowing the difference between boys and girls, morphs and hybrids, eating like a pig and knocking on deaths door due to starvation, wild caught as opposed to captive bred,healthy and never had a problem yet dead soon after arrival, and of course, how to measure length which has also been a problem for you on occasion. Oh yeah, and age, I seem to recall that you have had a particular problem with how old some of your specimens have been. Or young as the case may be.

#2 The ease with which you lie makes any statement by you suspect. The fact that you have been REPEATEDLY CAUGHT lying also makes any statement you make quistionable as to it's validity.

Combine the "few" examples of mistakes made by you with the fact that you lie about your deals and your animals and everything about you is brought into question.

Still laughing and rolling on the floor now?

Wes Pollock
 
I have said this before and I will say it again, Neil brokers animals, sure he has very, very few at his apartment but 90% of what is on his site is else where. Case in point the albino Retics belong to a friend of mine along with the 1.5 albino boas. The reason I mention this is to point out that Neil normally never sees the animals that he sells so he is at the mercy of the actual owner and then of course Neil also adds in (or removes) facts about the animals. He does this so that he can add his profits on top of the price he has to pay for the animals (in one case he addsd $500 and the other a couple thousand). He also buys alot of W/C stuff from a wholesale house I know of and RESELLS THE ANIMALS AS C.B., C.H. OR L.T.C.

Neil, you want to give the meaning of a troll well what about you mentioning my name in every post you can to harrass me? So I guess that make you a troll to, right?
 
Dave,
If I may jump in here I would like to make a few points.
I do agree with what you are saying about brokers never seeing the animal. That would make it tough.
On the other hand, it is still that broker who's name is going on the ticket for that animal being sold. This cannot become an excuse for brokers. If they cannot trust who they are dealing with or insure the animals they are selling are not 110% of what they say, they should not be doing it.
This is one reason I would not broker an animal for too many people. These people are putting their name on the line so someone else can make a chunk of change and the broker gets 10% or whatever. That is a big risk to take when it comes down to whether people are going to trust you or not.

What you say probably does happen, but this cannot be an excuse. They are still selling the animal. Maybe brokers who have this problem should get the animal they are going to sell, set it up and watch it/observe it for a few weeks to insure it is healthy, correct sex, correct length, bug free, or whatever the case may be.
If the response is that the person does not have room, well maybe they should not be selling off someone else's animals.

**This is not directed at only Neil, this is a general statement regarding all brokers that have such problems as the ones mentioned here.
 
Case in point the albino Retics belong to a friend of mine along with the 1.5 albino boas. The reason I mention this is to point out that Neil normally never sees the animals that he sells so he is at the mercy of the actual owner and then of course Neil also adds in (or removes) facts about the animals. He does this so that he can add his profits on top of the price he has to pay for the animals (in one case he addsd $500 and the other a couple thousand). He also buys alot of W/C stuff from a wholesale house I know of and RESELLS THE ANIMALS AS C.B., C.H. OR L.T.C.
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Since you have first hand information about these particular animals, Dave, then explain what facts Neil added in or removed about them. Better yet, direct your friend to this site so that he can explain what facts Neil has altered on these animals. If the facts haven't been altered on these particular animals, then what is your point in bringing them up?

If you know for a fact that Neil is representing WC as something else, then refer to those specific animals and show some back up.

As for the markup in price, what is your issue? Do you mark up animals that you buy before you resell them? I don't think anyone tells you how much you're allowed to mark them up, do they?

I and many others are trying really hard to let this thread stay on track: it was a good guy post for Neil, period. However, if you're going to keep throwing in derogatory statements about how Neil does business, then you better start backing it up. As much of a beating as Wes has taken about making his opinion of Neil known, he has always referenced the facts that formed his opinion. You won't even do that. You just spew, and within all your spewing, I've never ONCE seen you post about getting a misrepresented or unhealthy animal from Neil. So what's your point?
 
Put whatever spin you want on it.... I consider it a MAJOR honor and privilege that ALL these large breeders allow ME.... and ONLY ME, to sell their very well-cared-for, very exotic reptiles for them, because they want to stay in the background and not get involved in the many emails and constant phone calls about them.... I know everything there is to know about the animals in question because I ASK as many questions about them I can before I ever think about putting them on-line.... I've sold over $30,000 worth of reptiles for this one particular breeder in the last couple of months, and I have sold him about $15,000 worth of MY reptiles in the last two years or so, without one complaint from anyone, because they not only trust me, but know I would never steal anything from them or "take them for a ride".... I've been to his house many times and have seen the reptiles in question many times (who do you think takes all those crappy photos of them??.... lol).... I've seen them being fed and I've seen them breeding.... and, because of my total honesty and proven integrity, this one particular breeder will let me sell everything he ever produces.... and if the prospective buyer lives around the Tampa area, he also allows me to take the animal with me to show it, before I ever pay for it.... that's called EARNED trust!
Also, in the very near future, I am in discussions with another major breeder in my area to sell a lot of his adult Chondros and BABY Monitors and Chameleons of many different varieties.... and possibly, a pair of Albino Indian Star Tortoises (BIG bucks).... all for less money than any of you can buy them for wholesale!!....
All these breeders have read the BOI and have read everything that has been written about me (without one iota of proof, mind you).... they can easily tell fact from fiction because I have PROVEN myself time and time again.... that says a LOT to me, and I would never let them, or anyone else down because of some pure jealousy, because they won't let the others sell them.... and they've called and BEGGED this breeder to allow them to sell them, but have been turned down until *I* decide that I CAN'T sell them.... THEN, and ONLY THEN, he MIGHT let others who MIGHT have buyers give it a shot.... that's perfectly acceptable to me.... if I can't sell them for whatever reason, I have no problem giving others a shot at it, because my goal is to help THEM sell their animals, but I will ALWAYS be allowed to try first....
It might be considered brokering, but, all the animals I 'broker" are within a half hour from me, it's not like they live in California and I never see the animals, there's no difference in brokering these animals for them, or owning them myself, it only means that I don't have to pay for them first before I sell them.... there's not a person here who wouldn't love to do the same thing, if they had the chance....
Again.... I consider it an honor and a privilege that they will allow me to do this for them.... if they didn't KNOW I was honest and above-board, there is no way I would ever get this chance.... I've PROVEN myself to them many times over.... and THAT speaks volumes to them!

Neil
 
Well Neil, I almost think it would be better if you didn't see the animals you broker before selling them. Maybe throwing in fancy icing on the descriptions on the animals wouldn't be so easy if you didn't see them in person. I know , because you told me, that the boa that I bought from you was in your posession, and still showed up here a foot short, and the wrong sex. So don't come on here and say that all of the animals are what you say they are because you have seen them, and observed them in person. You were actually holding this snake, and couldn't tell anything about it except that it was orange, and unless you are color blind, that is no amazing feat.
 
Davey.... How many YEARS ago was that???.... 3??.... 4??.... I said it was three feet and it turned out to be 2.5 feet??.... I said it was a Female, and it turned out to be a Male??.... I seem to recall giving you $100 back for that error, and you said everything was fine then.... I guess that wasn't good enough for you???.... But, I'm SURE you've NEVER made a mistake in your life, huh??.... Stop being such a hypocrite.... you accepted the $100, and it was 3-4 YEARS ago.... I bet that snake is absolutely gorgeous now.... so just let it go and move on with your life....

Neil
 
OK Neil...make me look like an ass?Is that what you are trying to do? If i remember correctly.. and I do, becuase I have the PM saved, I was offered a full refund for the snake, in the thread, and then you PMed to ask me to keep the snake and you would give me 100 back. This was after a 26 page tooth pulling thread. I think the money arrived about three weeks after you finally decided to do the "right thing"

How many year? How quickly the years go by huh? It was so long ago that its hard for me to remember too, and then I remember, I have only kept boas for about a year, and that I bought my 4th boa from you, and that was a couple months after I got my first one...so how many years? about 0.9 years.

The snake was advertised as 4 ft Female, and unless she settled like a bag of frosted flakes, was nowhere near that. She ...well confirmed by the vet to be a he....was about 35 inches.

And as for beautiful...he died about 4 months ago, had some kind of tumor in his neck. I am not blaming you for that, thats life, but one can not assume that just because a snake is in better hands than yours, that it is now thriving and beautiful.
 
Neil,
I appreciate what you are saying. I do not want you to feel you have to defend yourself with me. What I was saying was simply in response to what Dave had said, be it fact about you or any other broker, those are challenges that on is faced with in the position of "brokering".
Like I stated, I have never bought anything from you so I cannot say you are "X" or are "Y".
I just simply posted a few thoughts that people need to realize when seeling other's animals.
Now, with the explination you gave regarding the one breeder, and I have zero reason not to believe you, I will say that not all brokers have a situation like yours. I know of people that sell other's snakes that do not have the chance to see them like you do. That, I suppose, was what I was referring to.

I was not questioning your integrity or asking you to justify anything. I cannot base anything on first hand information regarding you or your practices.
Regardless of how close on is to the animal they are selling, bottom line is that your name (in the case of animals you sell) is the one at risk.........I am sure you are well aware of that.

Just want you to understand the point of my post.
 
BTW, as Terese mentioned, although I do not think it was directed at me. I apologize for straying a bit from the topic of the thread.

Nothing was meant as a good guy OR bad guy in relation to Neil. Just a general comment as, like I said, I do not have any first hand knowledge of Neil and his sales.
 
Davey.... I recall selling you that snake when I still had my store.... I got rid of the store on Feb 4 2003.... you sure it was only 9 months ago??.... And, yes, it took me three weeks to pay you because you kept acting like a little baby and didn't want to give me your email address so I COULD PayPal you.... even after I asked you three times for it.... I got pissed and refused to do anything else.... and if you think it was because of the flack I got from the people on here to pay you, that was NOT the reason I decided to reimburse you for it, it was because it was the right thing to do.... had you given me your email address when I first asked for it, you would have had your money a lot quicker than you did... oh, and thank you so much for not blaming me for a neck tumor.... how adult of you....
Don't bother continuing this discussion, I'm done with answering your petty outrage.... it's over with, it's done, you've been reimbursed, now just let it go and move on....

Neil
 
Davey.... I apologize.... I just checked my "Animals Sold Since 02/01/03" page, and it turns out you are correct.... I DID sell you that Boa AFTER I closed my store.... but the fact remains that it's over and done with....

Neil
 
Neil back up a bit here.........

I think you have kind of stepped over the line by calling Davey a hipocrite. First off, if you must call someone a hypocrite call me one, See I was the person whom told Davey to go ahead and buy the Boa from you, as he was sceptical to make the purchase. I told him that he would have no problems and if something did go wrong you would make good on it with no worries. I held my tongue on that deal for sometime, and it's obvious how bad it all went. I won't bring up all the details but it was about 10 months ago not 3-4 years, and the Boa was 35 inches of a 4 foot advertised snake and it was missexed. I'm not here to get into anything or bash anyone but you really have no business speaking to a customer like that. Mike B.
 
OK, I know we don't need to rehash this all her, but since you are still yapping, and this whole thread should have been attatched to the other, but someone can't follow rules, here we go. You are the one who tried to use our emails in the other thread to make it seem like I did something wrong. My email was included in the headers that YOU posted. Even if there was some doubt as to whether I wanted the money emailed to that or another address, I paypaled you. You had my exact paypal address(which by the way is in fact the same adress that you posted).
How can you throw mud and then bow out? You scared? That "hypocrite" comment was out of nowhere. If you have knowledge of me selling a missrepresented or ill animal, I suggest you start digging for proof, otherwise, thats just another thing to add to the list of BS that goes along with purchasing from Neil Gubitz.
Get off of your high horse, and pull off that psuedo-halo and wings you are wearing, and say something that will actually help you, instead of throwing mud at someone who has an untarnished reputation.
 
Ms_terese,
It has been brought many, many of times how Neil adds Glitter to his ads but there is a very thin line between GLITTER and a BOLD FACE LIE. Neil has been caught in to many lies in ads to re hash them again. As far as the snakes I mentioned, I simply did that to make a point. There is nothing wrong with those snakes. If it sounded like that in my post then I am sorry. I am not going to go into each snake that Neil buys as W/C and then sells them for Captives, but it does happen.

Neil, as far as I know you have no first dibbs with D.C. He has several times ask for me to move snakes for him, The retic and the Boas and I do have buyers interested in them, But I have told them that in all fairness that we will give you more time. I have even told them to e-mail you and make a offer. I have some of your replies here that they were nice enough to forward to me.

Would you like for me to post them here for all to read? I have tried to be nicer and more forgiving towards you Neil but you make it hard.
 
Davey and Mike.... didn't you read my last post??.... I apologized???.... I was WRONG???.... I admitted it???.... What more do you want???

Neil


Let's see. Get a dictionary if you need to gubitz.

Try honesty.
Then integrity.
Then male.
Then female.
Then wild and caught.
Then captive and bred.
Then try eating, like and pig.
Then try emaciated, near and dead.

Once you are sure you know the meanings of all those words try using them as they should be. You know, honestly and with integrity. If you forgot those two already look them up again and maybe write the definitions on postits and put them on your computer.

Wes Pollock
 
DOH!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself Wes. Well, I could have but it woulda taken several pages, and nobody would have read the whole way through. Well done summing it up.

One thing I want has actually already been tried a couple of times, but someone can't get the hint and keeps coming back.
 
I vouched for Neil on the deal with Davey too... it's the reason I'm as vocally non-supportive of Gubitz as I am these days. Neil talked a big game, always quick to jump in with the moral position and defend the customer in transactions which went wrong, he had posts backing up his history of doing this, although, in retrospect, most of them were from one or two people...

So I told a friend to go ahead and send money.

The friend was bent over a counter and royally taken, then when public pressure finally would have gotten him some form of resolution, there was a three week delay in getting it. I bet Davey's initial paypal didn't take any three weeks to get into Neil's grubby little hands.

The fact is, some of MY integrity was stolen by Neil's actions. My judgement was called into question and my support abused, it detracts from my general credibility. I'm sure that Davey probably doesn't think ill of Mike or I for supporting Neil, but I know that I look upon it as a great personal mistake and I feel guilt for having sone so.

It's situations like this that have people becoming outspoken about Neil whenever a new thread is created. People make statements when they create new ones about how they didn't want their good guy post lost in the massive pile of negativity...

Well guess what... If there's a massive pile of negativity, it says something, doesn't it? Like maybe the person who is the subject of the negative comments deserves them for being craptacular at everything they do.

Posts about a particular person are, in theory, supposed to be made on existing threads. The Gubitz thread would be about eleven hundred pages long with maybe three hundred pages of positive comments. The reason that people post the negatives on the supposed good guy threads are simple... Nobody wants someone to do a very basic search, see one or two good guy threads, stop reading and then get taken by this carnival hawker. Any post should include both the positives and the negatives, so that a clearer picture of the... person... can be seen.
 
Seamus,

that was very well said it went straight to the heart of the matter, I truer post has never been made. Neil is a subject that will ALWAYS rear its ugly head here and on other forum like this. But as long as he has one good deal out of 10 people will forget about the 9 bad ones, why, god only knows.

He has a proven track record for selling Mis represented, sick, Mis sexed, Mis aged, wrong sized, dead and dying animals. If people would only listen to the people that Neil has scammed then yes this would be a better hobby/buisness to be in.
 
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