Neil Gubitz=Good Guy

[Wilomn]

It comes as no surprise to this kid that you DO NOT inspect the snakes you sell. Why do that? Then you would have knowledge ahead of time about what you are selling. HMMMMMMMM

On the other hand I can easily see you knowing that this "old gash, flap of skin, and scar" all your words, was there and just sold it anyway. Amazing how fast it healed from a gash to a flap of skin to a scar, all in less than a week. You are simply amazing.

Way to go neil, another good job of husbandry and salesmanship. You're the best.

At being one of the worst.

Wes Pollock

 

[Chris Eaton]

bring on the points

Neil you are a scumbag. I would've responded earlier but I was on the toilet taking a Gubitz. I've been watching you since you advertised your light phase burms months ago and they were nothing more than REGULAR burms, but of course you cant tell from your crappy photo. The funny thing is that you're the joke of this community. How does it feel to know you are the butt of jokes, how does it feel to be caught in your own lies. I hate to bring this into the gutter like this but it has to be said. You do nothing to make this hobby better, you just bring it into the toilet like the piece of Gubitz I just flushed. You make me sick.

 

[sputnik]

The replacement of the GTP with a whatever is not an issue at all because the buyer has accepted that.

My main concern is the number of animals that end up dead shortly after arriving at their new homes.

Drop shipping is something better left out of this industry. I couldn't and wouldn't drop ship any animal. I can't believe you didn't check it out and made sure it was healthy. This also includes keeping it isolated untill proven problem free.

Jason.... I told you they'd start pulling their hair out.... poor little babies....

Neil, having read through this thread it looks to me like your the one pulling your hair out.

That whole particular post from which the above quote comes from is just pointless, off topic and better left out of this thread. It makes you look like the one needing his diaper changed.

 

[Wilomn]

It seems that neil has taken some pointers on how to deliver a zinger from our old pal kennyboy from elite.

Very simliar. Very poor. Wonder if these guys are hanging out now.

Wes Pollock

 

[Seamus Haley]

My main concern is the number of animals that end up dead shortly after arriving at their new homes.

An interesting point...

Many of his good guy threads seem to involve dead animals.

Many of his bad guy threads seem to involve dead, misrepresented animals.

If the best someone could hope for in a transaction is dead or dying animals, that's pretty sad.

 

[Neil Gubitz]

That's pretty funny, Seamus.... let's see.... I remember two in a row from Rozann about two years or so ago which I made good on, I remember this one which I made good on, and maybe one other (which I DON'T remember).... and.... and.... and.... gee, I don't remember any others??.... So tell me, Seamus.... what were the other animals that I sold that were DOA (or sick) that I didn't make good on??

Three or four in 6 years???....

Neil

 

[Wilomn]

You seem to have used the wrong words again neil. On at least two occasions you sent mis-represented animals. Wildcaught vs. captive bred. Eating like a champ vs. dead of starvation in two days. Things like that seem all too familiar with you neil. They were replace but the boa you sent to Rozan took a lot of pressure from the BOI before you did anything about it. And you lied to her about that snake and about the uromastix you sent her. You tell a lot of lies.

Perhaps if that huge vocabulary of yours was used to PROPERLY represent what you sell there would not be SO VERY MANY threads about what a BAD guy you are. Perhaps.

Wes Pollock

 

[bud mierkey]

Neil

The neil that defeated the infamous dave lawson!
Heck I give him good guy points for that.
lol

 

[robin d.]

The neil that defeated the infamous dave lawson!

as far as i'm concerned neil and dave are basically the same ttype of people... i'm just sure it's a matter of time before people realize this..........

sure is funny though, how when one of neils threads get below page one (whether good or bad the bad is usually known by the end) a new good guy post on him comes up.... it's a pattern. funny how we are all creatures of habit

I could shove a 99 dollar digital camera up my own ass, fart, and get a better picture than Neil has ever taken.

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOo

i have a three year old camera i bought for $199 and i can get pics100 times better than neils... i dont think its a coincidence his pitures are bad

 

[Vince]

dont listen to these guys. neil when it comes to your pictures you are truly an artist.

con artist that is.

 

[robin d.]

rolf...
i was just surfing the web and came across this pic from a yahoo search
and i would imahine this is what most of neils animals look like or at least the ones in his freezer LOL
LOL of course this is pure speculatiion but with all this talk of dead snakes i would imagine its not far off

 

[Russ S]

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOo

i have a three year old camera i bought for $199 and i can get pics100 times better than neils... i dont think its a coincidence his pitures are bad

Not only does she have and old cheap camera, but a serious visual acuity problem as well. Sometimes i think she can see better in the dark than with the lights on, I worry that there's something strange about her, reminds me of a bat.

She may not be able to see, but seems rather intuitive about what's going on around her.

Her Huband, the Jersey yankee.
Russ Struck.


PS. Neil, It's rather sad that she takes much better pics than you considering.

 

[Dirt]

WOW venomous responses.......ooooooppppppsssss didnt mean to let the cat out of the bag!!! He did the right thing on my accord so thats that. PERIOD

 

[WebSlave]

Now I have banned Neil from this site a couple of times, and called him out on some issues, so no, I am not here to defend him specifically.

But I do believe this thread is getting out of line. If you have some new information to add in relation to the topic of this thread, then by all means go ahead and add it. If you are simply rehashing old information mentioned elsewhere on this forum, then simply provide links and get on with your lives.

You are welcome to say your piece, but please don't make a career out of it in any particular thread.

 

[The BoidSmith]

Well.... against my better judgement.... here's what happened....

In MHO what I believe was against Neil better judgement was:

1. Fail to thoroughly inspect animals upon arrival to his place. In his ads he claims his animals "have never seen a mite" (for those that have never seen one, they are really minute creatures ), although he failed to see a whole flap of skin hanging from one of his GTPs.

2. Ship animals w/o having undergone an acceptable quarantene period. As stated in this thread ..."I had them a whole week before I sold them"..... This period of time is unacceptable as quarantene.

3. Ship animals w/o checking them. Even if they were flawless upon arrival to his place an unfortunate event could happen during that week. They should be checked again before shipping.

4. GTPs and ETBs have lower metabolisms, and thus digest feed slowly when compared to other constrictors. Feeding and shipping within a week's time could lead to regurgitation problems.

5. Asking to post this experience as a "good guy thread". Yes, he asked a friend of his to send a replacement animal and that's commendable, but he sent a sub-standard animal to start with, which died a few days after arrival. I'm still wandering what the cause of death was (undigested feed maybe?).

But I would have to agree with what others have said, there is definitely an improvement as there hasn't been a bad guy thread for a while.

Regards.

 

[herpetological]

Ok.......

Before anyone starts.... I'm not defending Neil, just pointing out facts.. GTP's can be sexed by "experienced" herpetologists or breeders. NOT BY PROBING!!! If you take your time and are careful you can get a hemipene to evert with light thumb pressure. Do not stretch the tail or force it! There are other ways as well. I.E. calcium deposits however, young animals have very little. I don't recommend it but, it can be done. I've sexed and bred GTP's at least a 6 times. Second if the person you are working with is someone you know you can trust, where is the problem with drop shipping? I have sent out over 35 GTP's this year with one loss and it was carrier error. Yes, it was me Neil called and I shipped it to his customer. It never went to Neil's place. I'm sure Neil deserves what he gets most of the time but, these two points should no longer be an issue here. The rest of the points brought up are between you guys!!! LOL's Thanks Ray G. HBR

 

[Seamus Haley]

I'm not defending Neil, just pointing out facts.. GTP's can be sexed by "experienced" herpetologists or breeders. NOT BY PROBING!!! If you take your time and are careful you can get a hemipene to evert with light thumb pressure.

Huh...

"There are several ways to determine the gender of your chondros. Everting the hemipenes of male neonates by applying pressure to the base of the tail is a common practice with many species of snakes. Due to the very fragile vertebrae of baby tree pythons, it is strongly recommended that this technique not be used on them, or in fact on chondros of any age. Probing, done by an experienced person using sexing probes made for this purpose, is a far safer way to sex your animals. Probing to determine the gender of chondros should be done only after the animals are a year old. Again, this will help avoid damage to the fragile vertebrae of young animals." -Greg Maxwell

Guess he lacks "experience" eh?

Not that he is the only source that will confirm the danger inherent in popping young Chondros, but this is an easy and accessable quote from someone widely reccognized for their "expertise"

Lemme know when your book comes out Ray.

 

[Seamus Haley]

One other thing...

Neil stated that the GTP with the flap-gash was from someone else's stock too... Might that person have been you Ray or were you only responsible for the replacement?

 

[herpetological]

Seamus....

By no means do I consider myself above Greg Maxwell in regards to GTP's . However, just as here... opinions vary. I've worked with herps for over 30 years... I've been in business for 25 years. I've had 7 of the first time captive breedings in the U.S. to my credit... I founded the Northern Virginia Herpetological Society. I am the founder and current president of the St. Lucie regional Herpetological Society. I have published 26 articles in numerous publications. I have been working on a book and have several areas of interest. However, I have at any given time 300-400 specimens to maintain.... I spend a great deal of time doing field work in S. Fla. I have collected and studied herps in Honduras, Costa Rica, Andros, Puerto Rico, Peru, Nassau, Haiti, Trinidad and the most of the U.S. I have a degree in biology from George Mason University and specialized in Herpetology. (post grad studies in Great Falls on Clemmys Insculpta) I conduct numerous lectures and talks for educational purposes. I run a reptile and amphibian rescue which adopts specimens out at no charge to schools and educational related institutions. I'm putting together a junior college course entitled, "Modern aspects of Herpetology and Herpetoculture". (we'll see how that pans out?LOL's!) I'm sure I can go on but, it would be irrelevant. Etc. Etc. Do I need a pat on the back? By no means! Do I think i'm perfect? Absolutely not! Do I have more to learn? I learn something new everyday. My animals are my best teachers. Do I make mistakes? Yes! (Too may as far as i'm concerned but, we are our own worst critics!)
Have I made mistakes with GTP's? Yes, many years ago when they were rare and little was known about them. I can guarantee that none of the neonates that I've supplied have any broken vertabra in the tail. Do I recommend sexing them at an early age? No. However, i'd be more fearful of an inexperienced person probing them! Last but, not least.... No I did not supply the specimen that had to be replaced. I guess it was worth your shot but, I have not had any specimens from that locality nor did I sell that particular pair to Neil. Neil wanted a good quality specimen to send to a customer and rather than have it shipped twice, he asked if I would send it to his customer. Simple. I knew nothing of the situation with Neil or his customer. If you wish to continue attacking Neil, by all means do so. Do I think you are correct in doing so? Considering the past he has it coming. However, I was simply pointing out two areas in which the facts were incorrect. In regards to sexing and breeding any species of reptile.. It varies breeder to breeder. Each person has techniques which work for them. I've seen specimens with thousands of dollars invested in the design of their habitats which never showed breeding activity. I've seen very crude designs which produced numerous viable neonates. You go with what works. Same for sexing. Guidelines are just that..guidelines. Oops! This is going way off thread! I hope this is a satisfactory explanation. LOL's!! Thanks Ray G. HBR

 

[Dave Lawson]

Bud,

How did Niel defeat me?

I still have a store, A new location closer to home but it does very well.

I still sell, trade and ship animals and make a good living at it.

Plus I still have all my breeding stock here at my home.

Bud, do me a favor, Do a name search here and see how many people posted that I sold them a dead, dying animal or ant type of bad deal. I know of only one with a guy named Ron.

If there is anyone that Neil defeated it is himself. He shot himself in the foot.

To everyone else,

I was going to stay clear of posting in this thread but once Bud posted my name in it I wanted to answer, sorry for the rant.