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Neil Gubitz, Tampa Snake Pit (Good Guy)

did i say mild

I'm half asleep.This in no way mild to me though i think alot of the members seem to think it is mild that is what i meant.iI seen a lot of references to corn snakes etc about doubling the price etc.cars and bicycles cornsnakes and chondros.I'm glad they don't double the price at the car lot when you go buy that new mustang cobra.I think i made my point on that one.No disrespect to anyone who made those comments.I just don't agree.



Ivan Dochstader
 
I'm going to let this go, but I have to say one last thing . . . if you think you can buy an anerythristic corns snake, which is guaranteed to be a feeder AND have access to some one-on-one, personal advise from the seller, from a retail store, breeder, or whatever for $18.00 delievered . . . be my guest.

The fact of the matter is that there is a world of difference between wholesale and retail. Breeders make their money. Wholesalers make their money. Retailers make theirs. The customer pays them all by having the cumulative costs of doing business rolled up into the price of the individual animal purchased, and that is how it goes in every single transaction done in a show, over the internet, or at a storefront where BUSINESS is occurring.

I'm really sorry if that offends some, but that is the way things are done, and that is how it shall ever be, so long as we continue to be a monetary society. Why don't the car dealerships have a 200% markup on their cars they offer? It certainly isn't from sense of altruism, I assure you. It is simply because the market will not bear any higher a retail price. But if you think it actually costs GM anywhere near 40K to build a Corvette, you are sadly mistaken!

I'm done with this . . . ;)
 
I would like to state this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone pricing an animal at what they think it is worth. It is up to the buyer to decide if it is worth that much to them. It seems to me that Ivan did not do any asking of questions himself but rather went on someone else's story of things. ALWAYS talk direct with the seller yourself. Had you done this I don't think you would be having a problem with the deal. If you have a problem with someone (like Neil in this case) buying an animal from a breeder because it is an exceptional animal and then pricing it higher because they feel it really is worth the higher price tag then don't buy it. It is like this in every line of retail whether it be Reptiles, Clothing, luggage, etc. etc. As an example I can right now purchase 100% leather men's jackets in any size I want for about $20ea. the retail on these coats are $150-$300ea. Would it be wrong for me to sell them at their normal retail price because I have a direct source? No! Just as in this case. There is nothing wrong with it.
 
GREAT ADVICE

You all have some great advice and i respect that.i don't completely agree with everything.I think everybody knows how i feel whether right or wrong.I done arguing my point about it.I'm just going to chalk tis up as a learning experience.I was mostly freaked out cause i didn't feel like Kevin wanted to answer my questions.He explained that he was unaware.I maybe should have pressed it with him a little more.I didn't expect any more from neil from what i heard about him.I should have just been more clear to Kevin how interested i was.That can't be his problem.I'm sure he would of helped much more if he knew how serious i was.Neil may not have done anything wrong in most eyes.In my eyes he did.I feel he disrespected the person he purchased from and then disrespected the buyer.Sure everything he did was legit in the world we live in today.Just not in my eyes.


Ivan Dochstader
 
I only communicated with Neil a few times, he was interested in purchasing dragons from me but we did not come to an agreement on price. Everything seemed on the up and up but who knows, I was on the selling end so I wasn't to worried.

In regards to this thread I think it is completely retarded, it should have been about 4 posts long if the unneeded comments weren't in it. Frankly I think Neil has bashed enough, for justified reasons or not (I care not to speculate). Chris merely posted a postive comment about Neil and was run through the mud and had his decisions called into question. Honestly, posts like this cause a lot more harm than good as people may not want to post here anymore for fear of being flamed. If someone is thinking about buying from Neil they will do one of 2 things, do a search or post an inquiry. If they post an inquiry they will get a bunch of negative feedback and subsequently not buy. If they search they will find one good comment and 10,000 bad comments in 30 threads, if they are smart that will be enough to turn them away. Therefore reiterating in this thread is a waste of time. I especially love the fact that everyone went after Chris and kept on going with the "Flame Neil Day" despite Chris kindly asking to drop it.

Let me just close by saying I don't have a loyalty to anyone but MYSELF and even that is rocky at times, even if I was friends with any of you (or Neil, or Chris) I wouldn't say things in this thread just for the sake of friendship. Everything I say is my honest opinion on the subject from an objective point of view. How many of you can say that? How many of you are just bandwagon/mob mentality flamers that jump in and start flaming someone you don't even know just to go along with the crowd? Sounds like an insecurity/internet tough guy problem.
 
Dude. That was over a year ago. This thread should have long since drifted into history. LOL

Thanks tho. ;)
 
Oh shizz it was, I saw 11-04-03 and missed the 03. Found it while searching for something else and thought it was from like last week. This thread was
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Quick question for Chris Johnson.Have you ever bought anything from William Horn of Briarpatch Herps?

If so,can you give details?

Andy Sury
 
ABSOLUTLEY NOT!

I've outright witnessed him use stolen pictures to reprersent animals he knows nothing aout. No thanks.
 
Ok then...

So if you never bought anything from William Horn,ever,based on what you have read on the BOI.This is correct?
 
excuse me? is this some type of lame and pathetic attempt to stir up trouble? Im guessing so...

Can't you read???

My decision not to buy from William Horn did not come from the BOI, it came from obvious STOLEN pictures I've seen him use to represent animals he claimed he was selling and from the descriptions knew nothing about.......

Learn how to read. seriously.
 
Neil Gubitz, Tampa Snake Pit (Good Guy)
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Yeah.......That says William Horn. God I hate that about these BOI posts, no one can ever stay on topic. Questions about William Horn don't add anything to a topic about Neil Gubitz.
 
Don't worry about it Rich, this is just some pathetic attempt from someone with nothing better to do than stir up trouble and hang from Horns sack. Quite amusing really. I gave Neil Gubitz a chance last year, So a year later I think he's trying to tell me I never gave William Horn a chance or some stupid crap like that. So pointless...

Why would I give Horn a chance when he's an obvious sack of crap? He uses stolen pictures, edits them to represent his companies name, and then pretends to know what they are by pasting text from websites and blatantly MAKING stuff up about them! Have you no clue?

Gubitz didn't misrepresent what he offered to us and Gubitz didnt use stolen pictured edited with his name either. In fact it was a simple cut and dry sale, he offered, we accpeted, we paid, they arrived, and all was finished. Nothing more, nothing less.

Horn however.... well.... lets just say between his fake back problems and whatever other excuses he uses i would have been lucky to see ANYTHING from him for weeks. (He does not own what he sells, he takes your money and then hunts for the product, all the while claiming some personal injury or issue is keeping him from fullfilling his end of the deal)


I see right through you son, your lame attempt at proving some pathetic point or starting trouble is not goign anywhere so I'll end it for you RIGHT HERE before you really make things look bad for you.

This topic is about Neil Gubitz, it is MORE than obvious by now that you cannot read worth a damn, so I'll help simplify it for you.

READY?? Here we go...

Unless you have something to contribute towards the topic of this thread, shut your mouth, period. No one wants to hear a pansy try and stir up trouble. Especially on the BOI. This place is for informational purposes. Not personal pissing matches. Besides, My pee pee is MUCH bigger than yours.


Good Day. ;)
 
Little Mr.Johnson,carefull what you type.I'm 6'7" and 350 pounds.I doubt you have a bigger pee pee.

And like myself,you lost your anomonimity with your website.Again,carefull.

My point of the post is that you gave Neil a second chance,posted about it,fully expecting a flame war.Fair enough.I would not hesitate to buy from him solely on the fact I like the guy.But based on YOUR torrid replies,it so far has gone 37 odd pages.Nice,now who has little else to do but play on the computer.You have issues with letting things go.I know,you get bored as do I.

My point is,you are mean,really mean.A way of making youself feel better about the recent luck you have had lately?I think you have a recessive inferiority complex.There used to be another guy on the BOI like you.His name is Neil Gubitz.He used to sell some good stuff,ask the buyers to put him up on BOI,and he looked great.It worked great,except he was a big meenie to those who would fail thier customers.And when his run of good luck ran out on the healthy stuff,he was visciosly attacked by his fellow members.Backed into the corner,relying solely on instinct to defend himself.

I will reiterate that I like Neil,and this post has to do with him.You purposefully started this thread in hopes of getting your rocks off.I have learned a few things from this 37 paged dribble.
1.You are reselling Neils dragons(good for you)
2.You are mean,just plain cruel.
3.Your pee pee is smaller than mine
4.Your luck will eventually run out(few people in the trade will intentionally put out bad animals,so where do you think they come from?)
5.You upset me,not cool.I don't deserve it.

This is not your personal stomping ground,and you need be put on a leash.
 
I started this thread over a YEAR ago. I did not dig it back up, and you seem to be the one getting his rocks off. I said what I had to say, and trust me, my pee pee is still bigger. :)

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm in the process of building another peice of $#$@ computer for our shipping and receiving room and it's proving to be more of a pain in the rear than I had anticipated. Damn thermal label printers!

Enjoy the thread, even tho is about 14 months old..... lol
 
Sorry again for bumping this, didn't know I was bumping it. Being the age that it is I think we can all move on. Seems since there wasn't much that I saw recently about Neil he may have mended his ways. Even saw a new post regarding him being a good guy just a few minutes ago. Some people, even adults, do grow up at some point and change their ways. Some never do, obviously those are people to avoid.

Let me ask this question of anyone that has responded in this thread today. Are you a Christian? Don't Christians preach forgiveness? Granted I certainly am not but I know a wide portion of the population is.
 
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