New boas, and a problem

[Elfmaze]

Just had a clutch of five baby rosies. Four look ok maby one has a retained eye cap from birth. But one has an interesting wound(?) on his underside of his tail.

Look familiar to anyone?

 

[LakesideBoas]

Could it be an ulceration where the umbilicus was attached? I would definitely keep it clean and put some antibiotic ointment on it. I would also watch it to be sure it isn't herniated (the wound would become wider if it did) as if it does it could cause major internal problems. If it doesn't look to be healing in a couple of days take it to your Vet as it may need a stitch if it's herniated.

 

[LakesideBoas]

Looking at it again, I would think the umbilicus would be higher on the body than that...although Rosy's are not my specialty. Where is the wound in relation to the cloaca?

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Never had an umbilical slit look like that before. You better keep it on clean moist paper towels, change daily, until you can get to a vet. If you put any ointment on it, be sure it is not the kind with a pain reliever in it. Many a reptile have become pretty bad off from that pain reliever. It's not very reptile friendly.

Hope it all goes well.

 

[Elfmaze]

Its about 2cm forward of the cloaca. It deffinatly looks herniated. forward protrution from the normal skin level. Also on more inspection he appears to have another skin deformation about mid way on his body.

Hes an active snake though he failed to right himself one of the times i flipped him. just sat there for 10 seconds or so.

Also one of his mates appears to be dying. Lack of motion occasional gasp for air. we have him on a bit higher temp now but i don't think the second one is going to make it from the behavior.

 

[siberian]

siberian

Thanks for the post. Sorry that no help or ideas can be offered. Just hope the best. Thanks for posting and trying to find help no matter what the outcome is. Really hoping there are other replys in case we see this again.

 

[Elfmaze]

I think a bit of good news today. it appears that the wound is slowly closing. I will try to get a measurement off it or a picture at least but it does look narrower.


AND the snake that was lathargic appears to be a healthy aleart snake now! Maby they will all live. I'm a bit worried about the injured ones first shed though.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Sounds like good news. Maybe it tore itself loose from the yolk when it was born? Does seem to be in the general area as the umbilicus.

Glad to hear they are coming around though.

 

[Elfmaze]

well unfortunatly he got wet last night. this morning when we picked him up to change his dressings some i believe it was fat got pushed out of the wound. The vet still can't see him even on an emergency untill monday at 5pm. So we will see if he gets an infection before then.


What are the options here? possibly stitching our selves would be low on the list. but what about wrapping it or.....?

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Just keep him on clean paper towels, and keep it moist. Avoid handling as much as possible, to avoid staff infection. Staff infection can occur, even with frequent hand washing. If it's possible, go get some sterile latex gloves for the handling, or at minimum, use Germ-X or similar before handling to change out the paper towels. That's about the best you can do to avoid infection.

As for stitching....Probably ain't the best idea unless it's organs are popping out or something. When you suture it, often times, any fluids that may be draining out, will simply pocket inside, and then problems can occur with the formation of different bacteria, etc.

If it is from the umbilical cord being torn loose, there is actually a pretty good chance of it healing on it's own, though it's not going to be a quick heal. I've had a couple tear loose on me, and was pretty worried about them, but they healed up in a couple weeks. Not quite as bad looking as that one though.

Hope that helps some.
Rick

well unfortunatly he got wet last night. this morning when we picked him up to change his dressings some i believe it was fat got pushed out of the wound. The vet still can't see him even on an emergency untill monday at 5pm. So we will see if he gets an infection before then.


What are the options here? possibly stitching our selves would be low on the list. but what about wrapping it or.....?

 

[Elfmaze]

Ok so update time. We got him in to the vets on an emergency basis that same day. What happened was he tensed up one of the times we moved him to clean the cage and something did pop out. The vet pushed it back in, stiched, and started him on oral anti's.

The one that was lethargic but recovering not such a good story. He appeared to be doing alright but started showing some blood in the stool. so we seperated him. Over night he died in what didn't look like a pleasant way to go. Blood smeared everywhere and he was laying on his back is a ball covered in his own blood mouth wide open. Poor little guy

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Sorry to hear this.

Is this your first litter? Did they go full term? Did they separate themselves from the yolk, or did you help them?

Maybe if you can come up with some possible reason "why" it happened, then you can take measures to avoid this tragedy in the future.

 

[Elfmaze]

Honestly we didn't know she was pregnant yet when she gave birth. four of them freed them selves. the one that needed stitched had his head stuck.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Hmm. I'm just stumped.

Hope the rest do well for ya though.