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New York bans pet stores from selling cats, dogs and rabbits

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I guess this isn't a new thing, but it is complex enough an issue that I can't quite figure out what to think about it. Preventing animal abuse is definitely a good goal.

Limiting breeders to nine sales a year seems overly restrictive, for sure, so the law basically eliminates anything but casual breeding. Breeders of police dogs and other working dogs are sure breeding more than this; I suppose NYPD will have to get their dogs from out of state?

Seems like the risk of encouraging the laundering of animals as "rescued" is pretty high with such a law.

The internet tells me it is quite possible to buy rabbit meat in New York, so prohibiting selling them as pets out of humane considerations seems a bit odd (not that raising an animal for food is necessarily inhumane, but meat rabbit breeders are battery breeders of the sort this law claims to prevent).

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/16/1143365678/new-york-bans-pet-stores-cats-dogs-and-rabbits


December 16, 20229:10 AM ET

The Associated Press

ALBANY, N.Y. — New York on Thursday became the latest state to ban the sale of cats, dogs and rabbits in pet stores in an attempt to target commercial breeding operations decried by critics as "puppy mills."

The new law, which was signed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and takes effect in 2024, lets pet shops work instead with shelters to offer rescued or abandoned animals up for adoption. It will also ban breeders from selling more than nine animals a year.

"This is a very big deal. New York tends to be a big purchaser and profiteer of these mills, and we are trying to cut off the demand at a retail level," said Sen. Michael Gianaris, a Democrat.

He added that the puppy mill industry treats animals "like commodities" and said "there is no pet store not affected."

Pet shops have argued that the law will do nothing to shut down out-of-state breeders or increase their standards of care and said it would result in the closures of the dozens of pet stores remaining in New York.

California enacted a similar law in 2017, becoming the first state to ban such sales. While that law requires pet stores to work with animal shelters or rescue operations, like New York is doing now, it does not regulate sales by private breeders.

A handful of states followed. In 2020, Maryland banned the sale of cats and dogs in pet stores, triggering pushback from shop owners and breeders who challenged the measure in court. A year later Illinois barred pet shops from selling commercially raised puppies and kittens.

In New York, pet advocacy groups have long called for a full shutdown of facilities that raise and sell animals for profit, saying animals are raised in inhumane conditions before they are shipped off to stores.

Emilio Ortiz, a manager at Citipups pet shop in New York City, said the new law could serve as a death sentence for the business he's worked at for more than a decade.

"Ninety percent of our business is selling dogs. We're not going to survive this," said Ortiz, who considers the ban unfair to stores that work with responsible breeders. "They're closing the good actors along with the bad actors."

Jessica Selmer, president of People United to Protect Pet Integrity, a New York coalition of pet store owners, called the law "careless" and "counterproductive" and said she hopes the governor will "consider legislative remedies to some of the pitfalls of the bill."

The new law will not affect at-home breeders who sell animals born and raised on their property.

Lisa Haney, who breeds dogs at her Buffalo home alongside her husband, said she supports the law.

"One pet store near me, they get dogs from all over the Midwest and different large facilities, and you have no idea where they come from and who the breeder is. People are really clueless and take the puppy," Haney said.
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Her business, Cavapoo Kennels, partly focuses on breeding hypoallergenic dogs for people who have allergies, and her business model operates on a need basis. The waitlist runs from six to 12 months, ensuring each dog ends up in a home.

Gianaris said the law will allow buyers to be more conscious of where their pets come from.

"If a consumer went to a mill and saw the awful conditions, they wouldn't buy these animals," he said. "Dealing with a breeder allows people to see where their dog comes from, and it cuts off the middlemen that serve as a way to wash off the awful activities that take place at the mill."
 
Seems like the risk of encouraging the laundering of animals as "rescued" is pretty high with such a law.
I have read elsewhere that this is already happening in places like California that have similar laws. Basically the "rescue" buys wholesale from the mill and charges an adoption fee. So, nothing has really changed.
 
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