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Inquiry Nick Lillis – XtremVipereXotics

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Nick Lillis – XtremVipereXotics

Who is this guy? In the market for a monitor, so have been paying good attention to that part of the classifieds. What stood out initially was the large Nile monitor he is selling. It appears to be a 25-30lb animal that he is holding by the neck, but states once of of cage he is fine. Also the cage he has it in seems to be, non-ideal? To say the least. Animal is 2 inches from an exposed light, screen with large holes (impossible to hold humidity/heat), and overall looks too small IMO. He has a bunch of listings, I have provided a few screen shots of what I deemed relevant.

Started to look around, appears he had himself listed as 22 years old, with 30 year’s of experience, derp. When called out, he apparently removed his age from his profile, and stated he is in his 50’s. At that point my interested was peaked. Found a Nick Lillis on fb, appears to be in his young 20s, listed as living in Sparta New Jersey. This is ~30 minutes from the Nick Lillis here who is listed as living in Sussex NJ. This fb profile happens to have a bunch of "likes" of reptile groups. Think I am getting warm. His light facial hair (or lack thereof) + distinctly large hands look very similar to the individual posing in the fauna pictures (see below).

From the looks of it, the only thing he might be guilty of is lying about his age, poor husbandry (in my opinion, cedar chips, multiple species in one cage), getting rather aggressive when questioned about his age (see below), and some suspect identification of his reptiles. For me, that’s enough to avoid him. His animals look to be in decent shape. It makes me wonder if he raised them or acquired them. I find it hard to believe, from his caging, that they would have decent sheds / function properly, but who knows. Would like to know if anyone has had a positive interaction with him.
 

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You have the correct person Mike.

From the looks of it, the only thing he might be guilty of is...

You can add:
REALLY COOL NILE! BEEN DOING IT 30 YEARS! NEVER SEEN A NILE LIKE THIS EVER! PICTURES DO ZERO JUSTICE!

Misrepresentation of his own experience & longevity with monitors, thus attempting to lend himself false credibility while trying to sell an unique "RARE BLUE NILE!". Thanks for posting this Mike and thanks to James L for originally pointing out the 22 vs. 30 issue.
 
IM GOING TO SOLVE THIS NOW SO YOU DONT HAVE TO STALK MY LIFE ANY LONGER. I AM 22 MY DAD IS 52 WE SHARE THE SAME ACCOUNT. HE HAS SOLD ANIMALS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. THE ANIMALS YOUR SEEING IN CEDAR AND CHICKEN CAGES ARE ONLY IN THERE FOR ME TO TAKE EASY PICTURES. AS FOR THE SALVADOR BEING HELD BY ITS "NECK" IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY IM NOT HOLDING IT BY ITS NECK. IT IS AGGRESSIVE RIGHT OUT OF CAGE WHICH IS WHEN I TOOK THE PICTURES. OTHERWISE IVE HAD HIM FOR TWO YEARS NO PROBLEM. MY RESCUE POST ON CRAIGSLIST ARE AN ACTUAL THING. WE RESCUE AND REHOME ANIMALS ON OUR SPARE TIME. IM JUST TRYING TO FATHOM WHY YOU GUYS ARE GOING THRU SO MUCH HASSLE TO TRY AND RUIN SOMEONES REPUTATION THAT IS DOING NOTHING WRONG AND JUST TRYING TO SELL AND BUY REPTILES.
 
IM GOING TO SOLVE THIS NOW SO YOU DONT HAVE TO STALK MY LIFE ANY LONGER. I AM 22 MY DAD IS 52 WE SHARE THE SAME ACCOUNT. HE HAS SOLD ANIMALS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. THE ANIMALS YOUR SEEING IN CEDAR AND CHICKEN CAGES ARE ONLY IN THERE FOR ME TO TAKE EASY PICTURES. AS FOR THE SALVADOR BEING HELD BY ITS "NECK" IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY IM NOT HOLDING IT BY ITS NECK. IT IS AGGRESSIVE RIGHT OUT OF CAGE WHICH IS WHEN I TOOK THE PICTURES. OTHERWISE IVE HAD HIM FOR TWO YEARS NO PROBLEM. MY RESCUE POST ON CRAIGSLIST ARE AN ACTUAL THING. WE RESCUE AND REHOME ANIMALS ON OUR SPARE TIME. IM JUST TRYING TO FATHOM WHY YOU GUYS ARE GOING THRU SO MUCH HASSLE TO TRY AND RUIN SOMEONES REPUTATION THAT IS DOING NOTHING WRONG AND JUST TRYING TO SELL AND BUY REPTILES.

Warning: Because the rule on this site is ONE ACCOUNT PER PERSON, ONE PERSON PER ACCOUNT.

New accounts are *free* for everyone, so you really have no defensible reason to share an account on this site.

The REASON for this is accountability. We want every word posted on this site to have an unambiguous owner. Two or more people sharing and posting on a single account defeats this goal. So we take whatever steps we can to prevent the ambiguity and plausible deniability you apparently wish to engage in.

I am sorry, but if this situation is not suitable for you, then you have come to the wrong place to try to sell your reptiles. Either comply, leave voluntarily, or be removed involuntarily. It's just THAT simple.

And fyi, management of this site does not make or break anyone's reputation. We just take steps to make sure that someone is capable of doing so themselves with as little confusion as possible about WHO is actually saying WHAT.
 
No problem my father will create a new account. But how is it right for someone to write about personal appearance and stalk someones social media.
 
No need to change your typing habit on our account. Looking forward to hearing from Dad on his new account with correct name and address displayed.
 
If the red flags here were any bigger they would......be giant red flags? I got nothing, but this is shady as all get out.
 
No problem my father will create a new account. But how is it right for someone to write about personal appearance and stalk someones social media.

I have no interest in being heavy handed about what omeone writes here, as long as the discussion remains ON TOPIC, nor what they may do elsewhere. As for stalking on social media, I thought that was the PURPOSE of having a social media account? To have people follow you? My job here is ONLY to enforce the rules of this site. Meaning HOW they say something, instead of WHAT they may say.

Sorry, I am not following this thread, and cannot comment on your appearance and what someone may or may not have said about it. If you feel that your appearance is perfectly OK, then just ignore what people say. "Sticks and stones", and all that stuff.
 
HE HAS SOLD ANIMALS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
It seems counterintuitive that such an old pro wouldn't have left a noticeable online footprint after such a long career in buying/selling animals, yet Google seems almost entirely devoid of any mention of anyone with the surname "Lillis" being involved in animal sales - except for your sudden appearance here on Fauna, that is. What's your dad's name? For someone who's directly involved with such an active player, it also seems a bit odd that the only hits on a search of your phone number lead back to the ads placed on this site.
But how is it right for someone to write about personal appearance and stalk someones social media.
If you don't want people to have the information, maybe you should be a bit more selective about what you choose put in the public domain.
 
Thank you. I do understand that I should be ignoring what others say and ignoring the stalking he has done, but what he posted was completely irrelevant and off topic from what this website stands for. I have not done anything wrong. I have also had many, many positive interactions with others on here but none with Mike, therefore he had no reason to post any of what he did. I have had personal friends contact me questioning why someone would go out of their way to post something like that on this website... thats HOW irrelevant it is. I may be new to Fauna but I know this is not what this website stands for. This website is to buy and sell animals, yet he is using it to create personal drama which has nothing to do with animals. He commented numerous times on my beard. What does that have to do with anything? I made a mistake by sharing this account with my father but that has already been resolved. That is the only mistake I have made. Im sorry to bombard you with posts. Thank you for your time.
-Nick Lillis
 
The "classifieds" section of this website is for buying and selling animals. Not the BOI. But surely you know that.
 
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