Roscoe09
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I asked personally not in general. Shouldn't you also be mad at the OP instead of taking most brute on Nick. I am not quite understanding what is test is hidden? What did he do?
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Bad Guy Nick Lillis
- Thread starter greenfiremajick
- Start date
Readers after reading this thread may protect themselves by not doing business with Nick after seeing what he has done to others. That is the purpose of the BOI, to help people make rational decisions about who to trust with their business.
The community has already done so by asking fair, relevant questions. He is covering up information. It is not up to us make his behavior ethical, he is not a baby in a high chair, he is an adult and it is his own continuing behavior that has damaged his reputation.
I'm suspect that many would not do business with the OP after reading this thread. But simply pointing to someone else's misbehavior does not excuse Nick's poor behavior.
XtremVipereXotics
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Lucille I have one question for you what have I hidden? I told you guys everything and haven't talked to a single person not even the OP after my last post. I'm just doing my own thing with my animals and ignoring this. Its not running away it just seems the people that rip apart people in these threads don't have any real connection to the community. All they are on fauna for is to trash peoples posts and BOI's as anyone could see if you look at these peoples previous posts. The BOI trollers never comment positively or purchase any animals they just trash reputations. I travel the country with my family going to meetings, events, and shows and partake in the reptile community, talking to really amazing people that actually do breed, donate, and contribute as much as possible. No its not for self gain or to build a reputation either. Its for the pure enjoyment my family has always had breeding and caring for animals not just reptiles as I've said time and time again. I understand its only words through a screen so all of you can't believe it I'm just expecting you to trust it if you watch my videos and posts all over Facebook and instagram. I try to show the community how we actually care for our animals. Lucille not to target you all, but you seem to follow this carefully have left me positive karma in the past during all this and now your directing negative attention at me? which is it? You act as if your "speaking for the community" Speak for yourself. Ive sold roughly two dozen of my animals on here since my last look at this thread and not one negative feedback. So what continuing behavior are you speaking of? I've even had NUMEROUS people nice enough to reach out and write positive feedbacks on bios but thats not enough they just are targeted and called dumb(in shorter terms) by other members for doing business with me. They made the decision and are happy with the outcome so who is anyone to tell them differently. Especially since none of the negative people on here besides Tracy HAVE NEVER BOUGHT A THING FROM ME! Bottomline I care about my customers and even more than that I care about my animals. I believe that shows not everyone is perfect and you can't please everyone obviously. I don't partake in any BOI's I try not to even partake in my own because i believe its not going to help my customers. Im capable of answering any questions to anyone. I tell everyone exactly how it is if the animal is tame or not has a scar or not, even if a toe nail is missing. I send videos and more pictures anything someone asks. Overall to answer anyones questions why i have not replied about the beginning of this post is simply because I've heard NOTHING again I repeat NOTHING about it. To me it was over Tracy disappeared, and the OP from the second thread as well so in my eyes when the person who started the "threads" vanished because they had no proof to backup your guys repeated questions. The thread was done.
If you do something positive you get rewarded, but it is not a vaccination against recognition of lated bad choices by yourself.
You can't stick your head in the sand. The OP specifically said that you and she decided not to post lab reports. Why bury them? At that point in my opinion an ethical person would not have made that decision, would have posted the reports, and would have posted to her post, disagreeing with the with holding of that information.
Snake-Queen
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This is what bothers me the most, that he and the OP decided to withhold the test results. IMO, that means the results showed an illness/disease that Nick wanted hidden or that no tests were actually performed.
XtremVipereXotics
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I am not asking for a reward never ddi. But I haven't done anything to "continue my behavior" as you stated if anything I have done the opposite if you listened to the again NUMEROUS positive interactions people gave. Even when MBReptiles asked you guys and you all said NO don't do it. Look how that turned out he got one of my personal cubans that i raised myself to the current 3foot iguana they recieved.
Again Lucille i will say it again the OP can say whatever they like. Your going to believe her now? Are we forgetting what happened the private message shenanigans that went around that YOU contacted me about her side was all a game with zero truth. She told me about the test results that everything came back negative that she was terribly sorry and was going to make it right. I asked that she follow up with me for your guys benefit i even tried reaching out once myself to see how things were going, and nothing so i went on my way continuing what I've been doing as you all have seen i post frequently. Im not going to dwell in the past. I'm doing my best to do better in the future. Again not running away OR "putting my head in the dirt." I'm choosing to maturely carry on not to bicker back and fourth ill let my future sales, and condition of animals do the talking. I believe that makes the most sense
XtremVipereXotics
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It was a Facebook phone call what would you like me to post?
Black Adder
New member
As requested by numerous people numerous times
The VET REPORTS
There big letters so you might understand!
Snake-Queen
New member
I would like to see these "test results".
The agreement not to reveal the results only benefits you, not the OP.
I wouldn't sell or buy from the OP either.
XtremVipereXotics
Member
HEAR YOU GO BLACKADDER ALREADY WENT OVER THAT. I CANT PROVIDE WHAT I CANT GET OR HAVE!
Nick, you did not object in the thread when the OP said that the burying of the vet info was a mutual decision between you and her. So I think people would be naive if they believed your post, above.
Black Adder
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So, are you trying to tell everybody here that after you both agreed not to share these reports that you had not seen a copy of them yourself?
That is hard to believe or why would you agree not to share them if you had no idea what was in them?
Or are now trying to tell us that the op saying "we have agreed not to share" is a lie and you did not actually agree to this at all?
Roscoe09
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I am sorry to point this out but some of you aren't acting as the mature adults you guys are. N. I klloe
Snake-Queen
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Then that is your fault for not speaking up when she said you two agreed not to share the results.
Do you not recall this?
You should contact her and have her post the results.
I, for one don't believe there were tests done.
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Roscoe09
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Wanting truth isn't immature but destroying someone who can't provide it is the immature part.
It all just screams shady, in my book. If I had tests run and they come back negative for anything, I would post it all over here. However I would have to post results either way. If I had issues, I'd be looking for help/guidance at every corner.
Not saying that is the case, but...
Black Adder
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I fail to believe he cannot provide it even if he can only "relay" what the op told him was in the vet reports but I would have thought that due to their "agreement" he would have a copy and read it thoroughly.
So cant provide becomes WONT provide imho.
Of course this may all be pie in the sky and the real reason he cannot/will not provide is because NO TESTS WERE EVER DONE......