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Ok so a couple of weeks ago, Nick posts a Caramel het for Glow ball python for sale and when questioned about the parents, he replied they were both glows. When members replied that this was impossible, the ad was deleted. Maybe a mod can help but I think it was one of these threads:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1193105

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1192859

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1194205


Ok, so I bite and ask for pictures:

caramel9.png

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Take note, there was a slip of the name Alyssa and he states his buddy produced this ball python.


So here are the pictures I received:

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At this point I think it's all over with. As the week passes, I seem him trying to trade this snake for everything under the moon and then an ad pops up "[Wanted] pastel and mojave ball pythons"

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224331

This time different parents are listed and the pictures provided are the same snake that I was given:

caramel2.jpg

caramel3.jpg

caramel1.jpg

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Note: This time he swears he produced it

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I've studied the picture the WHOLE day and they are the same snake and to boot, I found another ad with probably the same snake with totally different details:

caramel12.jpg



And the final blow:

nickmaitland96 said:
well i produced her . ill give you a 100 percent guarentee on her genetics. i dont have anyone to verify her genetics because noone else produced this snake do you get where im coming from?
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Mr. Maitland, can you please explain yourself?
 
yes i can i did produce the snake me and a buddy when i told him i produced it i was meaning it as in i ussaying i bred one of my snakes to a buddy of mines snake and produced the clutch there was no need to put me on the boi for this
 
and you can clearly see that the name alyssa has a heart beside it its my girlfriend she was on my message signature i hope you feel really slow and i clearly put in the otther ad that i was setting up a ad for my friend because he didnt know how to. the glow times glow ad that had the pic of my snake on it was just to show what the caramel looked like it wasnt a actual picture of the snake . and the other ad yes was mine no big deal she has the genes and if you didnt believe me you shouldnt have ever contacted me thanks dont reply to my stuff or comment again your being blocked goodbye
 
Your first ad said the parents were caramel glows (I remember this, I saw the ad). The other ad in question you stated the parents were something else. Now, if you 'bred one of your snakes to your buddys snake', then why the change in the parents description? And why delete your most recent ad if there's nothing to hide?
 
because im not going to have an ad if people are calling me a scammer its pointless to post anything and the reason the parents were different is because i didnt produce my friends snake i posted 2 ads for him that were not my snakes i just posted the pics to show what the caramel looked like. the only ad that was mine is if they said the het glows parents dad was a ghost het caramel and the mom was caramel het ghost

thanks nick.
 
nickmaitland96 said:
and you can clearly see that the name alyssa has a heart beside it its my girlfriend she was on my message signature i hope you feel really slow and i clearly put in the otther ad that i was setting up a ad for my friend because he didnt know how to. the glow times glow ad that had the pic of my snake on it was just to show what the caramel looked like it wasnt a actual picture of the snake . and the other ad yes was mine no big deal she has the genes and if you didnt believe me you shouldnt have ever contacted me thanks dont reply to my stuff or comment again your being blocked goodbye
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To the bolded..can you please explain again..SLOWLY, in ENGLISH? I am not following at all. :shrug01: Why would you do that?
 
Nick,

I did not call you a scammer. I asked you to explain your actions because they do not ad up. I understand that you and your friend may have produced this snake, but why tell me your friend produced it and you can't get papers. If you produced it, why can't you?

Also, why have three different parental genetics in three different ads for the same snake?

There's no reason to be upset if I am wrong, but if anything I should be upset because I feel like I was lied to.

Also, can you provide a reference for your buddy that produced this snake and can you post pics of the parents?

Thanks.
 
Is this you, Nick? If so, seems some odd questions to be asked by someone who has the cash to get into caramel glows. Just sayin'.

http://answers.yahoo.com/activity;_...E2eDdBNaa&link=question#yan-questions-answers

There were originally three animals that I remember specifically seeing posted for sale. A caramel het glow with changing parents, a regular caramel, and a het caramel. Maybe one of the mods would be kind enough to un-delete those for us if we ask real nice?

The newest ad has also been deleted already. Doesn't seem like the behavior of someone with nothing to hide. :shrug01:
 
when i tryed to sell the caramel on the auction site i listed her as just a caramel this was the same snake and yes i will get my buddy to call whoever wants to know about the snake this weekend when he comes down to my house. the caramel with the glow parents is a friend of mine in texas i assure you i knew nothing about the snake of his he just asked me to post the ad look you guys im sorry i never meant to do anything wrong i was just looking to trade her for some older morphs to breed this season once again im sorry
 
nickmaitland96 said:
when i tryed to sell the caramel on the auction site i listed her as just a caramel this was the same snake and yes i will get my buddy to call whoever wants to know about the snake this weekend when he comes down to my house. the caramel with the glow parents is a friend of mine in texas i assure you i knew nothing about the snake of his he just asked me to post the ad look you guys im sorry i never meant to do anything wrong i was just looking to trade her for some older morphs to breed this season once again im sorry
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So...what you are trying to trade is JUST a Caramel?

TEXAS?? :ack2: *I'm out!:rofl:
 
nickmaitland96 said:
when i tryed to sell the caramel on the auction site i listed her as just a caramel this was the same snake and yes i will get my buddy to call whoever wants to know about the snake this weekend when he comes down to my house. the caramel with the glow parents is a friend of mine in texas i assure you i knew nothing about the snake of his he just asked me to post the ad look you guys im sorry i never meant to do anything wrong i was just looking to trade her for some older morphs to breed this season once again im sorry
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So which is the one you produced?
 
nickmaitland96 said:
yes i can i did produce the snake me and a buddy when i told him i produced it i was meaning it as in i ussaying i bred one of my snakes to a buddy of mines snake and produced the clutch there was no need to put me on the boi for this
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What snake did you produce?
nickmaitland96 said:
and you can clearly see that the name alyssa has a heart beside it its my girlfriend she was on my message signature i hope you feel really slow and i clearly put in the otther ad that i was setting up a ad for my friend because he didnt know how to. the glow times glow ad that had the pic of my snake on it was just to show what the caramel looked like it wasnt a actual picture of the snake . and the other ad yes was mine no big deal she has the genes and if you didnt believe me you shouldnt have ever contacted me thanks dont reply to my stuff or comment again your being blocked goodbye
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So your animal is the carmel het glow?
nickmaitland96 said:
because im not going to have an ad if people are calling me a scammer its pointless to post anything and the reason the parents were different is because i didnt produce my friends snake i posted 2 ads for him that were not my snakes i just posted the pics to show what the caramel looked like. the only ad that was mine is if they said the het glows parents dad was a ghost het caramel and the mom was caramel het ghost

thanks nick.
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No one has used the "scammer" word here but you. You posted 2 ads for the same friend?
nickmaitland96 said:
when i tryed to sell the caramel on the auction site i listed her as just a caramel this was the same snake and yes i will get my buddy to call whoever wants to know about the snake this weekend when he comes down to my house. the caramel with the glow parents is a friend of mine in texas i assure you i knew nothing about the snake of his he just asked me to post the ad look you guys im sorry i never meant to do anything wrong i was just looking to trade her for some older morphs to breed this season once again im sorry
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Here you state that the het glow is your friend is Texas' snake, but the quote above this one states that its yours. Care to elaborate? Might be just me, but it seems like you can't keep your story straight.
 
Utta said:
Here you state that the het glow is your friend is Texas' snake, but the quote above this one states that its yours. Care to elaborate? Might be just me, but it seems like you can't keep your story straight.
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Any chance we could get your friend in Texas to come and vouch for you? It'd go a long way in clearing up this confusion.
 
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Can you post a pic of the Caramel Glow breeder that was used to produce the Caramel Het Hypo/Glow?


You told me some guy in VA produced her?


I agree all the ads should be restored/un deleted so screen shots can be posted within this thread along with screen shots of all the post offering to trade this supposed Caramel or Caramel Het Hypo/Glow to other fauna members .
 
nickmaitland96 said:
when i tryed to sell the caramel on the auction site i listed her as just a caramel this was the same snake and yes i will get my buddy to call whoever wants to know about the snake this weekend when he comes down to my house. the caramel with the glow parents is a friend of mine in texas i assure you i knew nothing about the snake of his he just asked me to post the ad look you guys im sorry i never meant to do anything wrong i was just looking to trade her for some older morphs to breed this season once again im sorry
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nickmaitland96 said:
because im not going to have an ad if people are calling me a scammer its pointless to post anything and the reason the parents were different is because i didnt produce my friends snake i posted 2 ads for him that were not my snakes i just posted the pics to show what the caramel looked like. the only ad that was mine is if they said the het glows parents dad was a ghost het caramel and the mom was caramel het ghost

thanks nick.
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Oh the webs we weave.

Nick, the initial texts I sent you were for this "friends" snakes. You can at least admit to that. Those text messages several posts above still continue but I didn't think they were necessary. So if this was your friends snake, why were you making these offers?
 

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nickmaitland96 said:
and you can clearly see that the name alyssa has a heart beside it its my girlfriend she was on my message signature i hope you feel really slow and i clearly put in the otther ad that i was setting up a ad for my friend because he didnt know how to. the glow times glow ad that had the pic of my snake on it was just to show what the caramel looked like it wasnt a actual picture of the snake . and the other ad yes was mine no big deal she has the genes and if you didnt believe me you shouldnt have ever contacted me thanks dont reply to my stuff or comment again your being blocked goodbye
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You can provide plenty of pictures of your snake for your ad but can't take any pictures of his snake which is also in YOUR possession?
 

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I've undeleted his recent ads that included reference to caramels, and locked them. Feel free to post screen shots of whatever is needed...though I would suggest that Mr Maitland not delete them again.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223509
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223493
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223526
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224331
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224047
 
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