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Nick Mole "First Choice Reptiles" Inquiry

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I am inquirying about

Nick Mole
First Choice Reptiles
407-435-7961

He seems to be selling quite a lot of imports (they all sound and look like recent imports) as healthy BREEDING pairs, groups, and trios. Seems to good to be true. Here are some of his ads:

1.1 breeding pair of C.HOEHNELII $170 SHIPPED/PAIR

2.3 c.fuellebronii *AWESOME CHAMELEONS* ENTIRE GROUP $275 SHIPPED!

1.1 pair of C. Johnsonii AWESOME! $225 SHIPPED!

1.3 breeding group c.rudis *AWESOME INVESTMENT! Two females are gravid $200 shipped/group

beautiful adult male C.verrucosus $155 shipped!

2.4 breeding colony of asian box turtles ENTIRE GROUP IS ONLY $175 SHIPPED!

1.2 breeding group of Three striped mud turtles*easy to breed* look inside


Now I have a question, how can you claim all these animals are breeding in their current state? It doesn't seem that the person in question has breed them himself, but has purchased recent imports (many of them gravid, that will likely have birthing/laying problems). I guess you could say that if they are gravid they had to have bred at one point and time, but I doubt you can say they are currently breeding in the state he is selling them. All the statements I made above are rasing a HUGE red flag on this guy and I would like to know if anyone had any dealing with him and what where the quality of the animals he sent? He also states that all of the species are extremely easy to keep and breed in captivity although I personally have not seen this with the majority of the species he has for sale, mostly with the chameleons he is offering (example: Chamaeleo johnstonii). Just wanting to know more about this guy and the animals he offers.
Thanks
Justyn
 
Justyn,

I have never personally dealt with him but I know where he purchases his animals from and yes they are fresh imports. He is suppose to be coming by tomorrow to purchase 4.4 C.Werneri from me to be honest. I can not say anything bad or good about him but I have seen animals listed as breeding groups and I know they just arrived in the country. To be honest some of his ads have appeared to be almost leaning away from being fresh imports like they are. He very well may be selling animals that he has had for a while but I have seen ads post within hours after they have arrived at the importers facility. I.E. C.Johnstonii. I sell imports as well but the buyers are informed when they animals arrived and what treatments, or acclimation has been started on them.
 
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hello,

My name is Nick Mole aka First Choice Reptiles. I do sell alot of imported animals, which are either hand picked, feeding, aparently healthy, and have recieved parasite treatments(1 within the first few days, and the following, a day before shipment). This technique works well for me, and have had many customers, whom were satisfied, with there animals, and there health. I do sell alot of Gravid animals, this is because these are specifically hand picked, and modereately healthy gravid animals are purchased, and then treated for possible illness. When the term breeding pairs trios or groups is applied, I am only reffering to age, species, and size, compatibility, and not that these animals are, or have reproduced in my care(which many do). I have been breeding chameleons for almost 6 years, and still going, I have produced many many offspring, and have had many customers whom were happy with there purchase. I always tell my pottential customers, when the animals have been treated, and when the next time they should be treated is. Any animals that are marked l.t.c meants that they have been in my care for more than 4 months, and are completely parasite free, and have had fecals checked. I will not say that I do not sell fresh imports, which is very common, but the buyer is always informed when they arrived, and such. I have had very little d.o.a 's and for the most part my customers, have been generally happy with there purchase. I appreciate everyones concern and will now include in the ads, there exact import, and deparitization records.

Best Regards
Nick Mole
First Choice Reptiles
 
Pretty close call

I guess breeding group and proven breeder are two different things, but just looking at the add, seeing 1.2 breeding group, I, and many others may look at it as a proven breeding group. Appears like a wording issue, but sounds less than completely honest to me. This is just my opinion!

David Reid
 
Seems like the only way to be clear on things anymore is to have an exact definition from everyone on what every word they use means to them. It didn't say proven breeders, just breeding group. Potential breeders may have been easier to understand but.....

It seems that internet sales are all in the wording. Everyone out there needs a class in hair splitting to be able to navigate it safely and even then there are your outright liers.

Shades of grey next to tones of black next to brilliant white. It's gotten so complicated. It's really a shame you just can't take someones word that what they are saying is what you are hearing. Excercise extememe caution is becoming a standard with everything, no more deals on a handshake and a say so.

Wes Pollock
 
Yeah, I tend to stay away from people that try to be sneaky in their wording or dealings. It always seems to put up a major flag. I also got some more info on this guy off the board and needless to say I will not be doing business with Nick Mole anytime soon. I guess my standards are just to high these days to be happy with anything but the best, or at least healthy animals.

P.S. Nick Mole, as for LTC, you say they get fecals, who is your consulting vet? Mind if I contact them?
 
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Hello,
once again, I will watch the word usage in my ads. I post way to many ads per day to get down into niddy gritty detail. If you have ever purchased from me you would know that all these things are brought up before hand. Our consulting vet is Orlando's exotics vet bruce bugoslavsky, and Ivan Alfonso d.v.m(mystical chameleons) whom, does most of the fecals and is on his staff. Not all animals are given fecals due to the many animals that we deal with today, but all are treated prior to shipment, and the buyer is advised that more treatment may be nescessary.

407-855-pets

NickMole
First Choice Reptiles
 
Nick,

I have a question for you. How can you say that Ivan Alfonso is doing or has done your Fecal's when he does not work at Dr. Bruce Bugoslavsky practice nor has Ivan ever seen nor treated your animals? Maybe your confused on the names or posted the name on accident. I would suggest that you correct it as I know Ivan would not be happy that his name is being used as your Vet. performing your fecals when he has never seen any of your animals nor met you. Clarification is definitely needed to straighten this out.
 
must be a mistake

hello,

Although I have never met Dr.Ivan Alfonso, I heard about a week ago, that he was a vet on staff at dr.bruce bugoslavsky office, I have heard of dr.alfonso and his company and was very pleased to find this out. Just got an email from dr.alfonso, and he has informed me that he is not on staff at dr.bruce bugoslavsky's office, although the picture on mystical chameleons website, of Ivan alfonso, bears a striking resemblance to there in office tech, or secondhand vet. Sorry for the misinterpretation.


Nick Mole
 
I already talked to Nick via e-mail regarding the misunderstanding. I have never worked for Dr. Bogoslavsky so there is no reason for anyone to think that I have any ties with his clinic. Resemblance is not the same thing as identity so, although it is interesting to hear that there is someone out there as ugly as me, it is not good to assume just because of a picture.



Thanks for the clarification Nick.
 
Man, this keeps getting into depper water with all these misunderstandings. I'm glad they are straightened out, but my question still stands. Has anyone BOUGHT any animals from First Choice Reptiles? Did the animals live up to the ads? How are the animals currently doing? Anyone???
Thanks
Justyn
 
Well...

On 9/27 I contacted Nick about buying some bulk moss for some exhibits that were being re-done at the institution I work at.

I paypalled him on the 29th for the moss and didn't hear back for several weeks from Nick. He had mentioned some storm cleanup stuff so I was patient knowing what Floridians have been dealing with.

I contacted Nick about 2 weeks ago wondering where the moss is and he told me it would be out soon.

A week later, no moss. So I contacted Nick again and asked if he had shipped, he assured me he did and it would arrive shortly via ground transport. Well, a week later and no moss arrives...my exhibits are looking pretty crappy at this point. Nick assures me the moss is on its way because ground shipping can take up to 7 business days so I wait, no moss.

I recieved an email yesterday saying the moss had been returned and that it would go out today monday but I've asked Nick to cancel my order because waiting over a month is unacceptable. I have deadlines to comply with at work and stringing on the exhibit technicians is never a good thing....

I have yet to hear from Nick, here are my emails....Overall I am very disappointed and unsatisfied.



moss was shipped tuesday, and will be there shortly. sorry for the wait.

Nick Mole
FCR

DANNY MENDEZ <[email protected]> wrote:
That's fine Nick, just wanted to have an idea as I'm waiting to update
some exhibits.
Looking forward to it...
Danny

Daniel Mendez
XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dept. of Animal Husbandry
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[email protected]

>>> Nick Mole 10/12/04 1:31 PM >>>
danny,

sorry for the delayed response. Took longer than I expected to get
orders back to normal, and moss collected again. Your order will ship
out tommorow or thursday, once again, sorry for the delay.

Nick Mole

First Choice Reptiles

DANNY MENDEZ wrote:
Hi Nick
I was wondering what the status of moss is...? I just want to confirm
you recieved our payment and when we could approximately expect to
recieve it...

thanks

Hope your cleanup from all the weather is going well...
ttys

Danny

Daniel Mendez
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dept. of Animal Husbandry
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[email protected]
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We purchased some stuff from First Choice, and they will not be our first choice anymore. After buying 10 assorted agamas, with 5 dieing on the way home, and the other five in the flowing week, I don't think much of anything we got from them lived. The fire skinks, the 3 skinks of the many lizards we bought from them lived. But then again, I cannot say we tried much after that. After they died, we planned on calling, we sat down to call - and a customer walked in asking for us or help in general that grandpa sitting in the front couldn't answer. My overall view for these guys is poor.. attempting to say that their imports have all been checked? ..And fresh wc adults are proven and breeding now? I don't know..
 
Bad News He Is

I purchased some feeder frogs from him over a year ago. He then told me when they would ship. I waited that Tuesday.........no package. I contacted him again. He said you will get them Wednesday. I made myself available to be at my house in order to receive the package. Still no package. I called him on the cell phone and he said the package would be delivered on Thursday. Still no package. I called him again on Thursday only to find out he was at one of the shows.

I will not ever do business with this guy again. He is totally unreliable. I wasn't very happy at all waiting three mornings for a package he said he sent but never did.

I did get my money back but I learned quickly of his character. He's not worth the trouble.


Chuck Wright
 
I purchased a WC Mellers from Nick. He was prompt on collecting the order. He was prompt on shipping the chameleon. The chameleon arrived exactly when it was supposed to. It was packaged perfectly. The chameleon arrived alive.

A few days after I had the cham, there was problem and I called nick and left 3 or 4 messages. I didn't hear back from him, so I sent a few emails. No response to phone calls or emails.

I was just disappointed by the lack of response. I wasn't holding him responsible for the anomaly.. I was simply looking for help.

Rob from RK and Ivan A. came through and helped me out. Thank god for these 2 guys in this industry!

My suggestion for dealing with Nick.. Hope that everything goes like it supposed to.

Joe Danyi
Y-Town Ohio
 
My experience

I've had three dealings with Nick Before. Altough i can't say his email responses are prompt, but so far i have been very satisfied with the animals he has sent me.
quite honestly, he has been the only person that has sent me wild caught animals that looked great, and remains healthy to this day. So as far as the animals go, i won't hesitate too much about getting wild caughts from nick. But Nick...respond to your emails man....
 
fybexotics?....and Nick???/

Well just wondering if he operates with someone else or under a different name as well:

Kingsnake ads:
Nick Moles Reed Frog Ad

We just got in a shipment from Ghana and got some very nice reed frogs(hyperolius sp)These guys are mixed species and it looks like around 4-5 different species, but tons of each. These are all adults and the males are calling right now, and I have already spotted several egg clusters. This would be a perfect and cheap investment that wants to get into breeding frogs,or a breeder looking for another project. Some of these guys are beautiful, and are red with black spots, lemon yellow, and lime green. get in on these guys during their natural breeding season(it is rainy season in Ghana) the prices are as follows:
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And here is FYB exotics ad:
FYB Kingsnake AD
We just got in a shipment from Ghana and got some very nice reed frogs(hyperolius sp)These guys are mixed species and it looks like around 4-5 different species, but tons of each. These are all adults and the males are calling right now, and I have already spotted several egg clusters. This would be a perfect and cheap investment that wants to get into breeding frogs,or a breeder looking for another project. Some of these guys are beautiful, and are red with black spots, lemon yellow, and lime green. get in on these guys during their natural breeding season(it is rainy season in Ghana) the prices are as follows:
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So are they working together? same person? they posted this one day apart....


Hmm makes you wonder.

Also, Pretty sure that they aren't both importing seperately from ghana, just saw a bunch of reed's at Joes at jp's

See ya
TOM
 
Tom,

Josh and Nick are buddies and seem to get things together. I know Nick has imported shipments but I also know he gets alot of his animals from JP Pets. I would have to say that the majority of his "shipments" are animals purchased from JP Pets rather than imported himself directly.
 
I always had good deals with Nick in the past. Recently things have changed though. I have been waiting on a Rhampholeon order for over a month. 15 animals placed on 10/09/04. I have waited long enough. I mail Nick asking for my money back and sure enough no answer.

After mailing him twice asking for my money back I see that he posted in a forum the order is suppossed to come in again. Wouldn't ya know it he has taken the ads off.

Pretty disappointing considering I have purchased something like 25 chams from Nick in the past and had no problems. Until he lives up to his side of the deal I won't recommend him.

Carl Cattau
 
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