Bad Guy Nicole Norton (Howlin Gale' Dragons)

[Dragonz Whispers]

I know nothing of this Ed person, all I know is he was supposedly dating Nicole for awhile. I don't talk to her frequently, as I've been very ill. I'm going by what I have read, and the posts, from the same old people, saying the same old thing, about the same old dragon. I'm letting you know my personal opinion on Nicole, as I live in the same area as she does and helped her get started in dragons. I honest and truely don't want to get involved, as now you peolpe are bashing at me. LOL it's the same crap as it was yrs ago on here. We never bred for other breeders, we bred healthy dragons for the community. So they would get to know how loving a dragon can be. When other breeders buy from one another it's typically because they firmly believe that the dragon would benifit their genetics. I don't see any BIG names on here as far as breeders go and that's what's important. The lil guy will always try to discredit the next. Believe me, I've seen alot. I'm done leaving my comments so go ahead and tare them apart if you must. Good luck to all, & we do wish peace & prosperity to everyone! Kind Regards, Rhea

 

[Iraqvet]

DAND, you don't want to start with me. I just told you as I see it. How old are you? JW cause your "rectally" comment and the way you tried to find fault in my post, just sounds like something a young person would do. I have absolutely no reason to lie to any of you. Nothing to gain or loose. We've always been honest with people, even if we were wrong or made a mistake. Our reputation stands for itself, and it will rest there as well.
All I'm saying, is for people to check things out for themselves before believing the words of others who continue to pick apart and bash people.
My eyes are more wide open then what anyone would ever believe. I've seen some photo fix ups on here done by other regular people that post, that noone says a word about. I know my dragon pics inside and out, and some of these posts that are showing super deep reds are forgetting that when they fix a photo, they are forgetting that they are coving up the drags side bars or what not with red color, or their adding contrast & high levels of saturation. Go pick on them for awhile, give yourself something to do please..

Ok..If your story holds weight,go ahead and name names...If you think people are photoshopping on here,then you show a huge lack in character by not sayin nothin correct??...Sounds like your not very honest to me..Or maybe you think if you let others get away with it then they will let you do the same??

 

[Dragonz Whispers]

Mr/Mrs shlages person, people make mistakes, and if you would of read my post a little closer, you would of saw that there was a mistake made in communication regarding e-mails and which dragons were involved.

 

[DAND]

My eyes are more wide open then what anyone would ever believe. I've seen some photo fix ups on here done by other regular people that post, that noone says a word about. I know my dragon pics inside and out, and some of these posts that are showing super deep reds are forgetting that when they fix a photo, they are forgetting that they are coving up the drags side bars or what not with red color, or their adding contrast & high levels of saturation. Go pick on them for awhile, give yourself something to do please..

Good lord, you must read the same book of "HOW TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM ME" nichole reads. This thread is about nichole. If you know of other people doctoring photos then post it in the appropriate thread which is NOT HERE!

Odd though, you seem to believe it is wrong to doctor photos but you show support for someone who has done so. Can you say hypocrite?

BTW, you may want to re-think starting with me.

 

[Dragonz Whispers]

Ok..If your story holds weight,go ahead and name names...If you think people are photoshopping on here,then you show a huge lack in character by not sayin nothin correct??...Sounds like your not very honest to me..Or maybe you think if you let others get away with it then they will let you do the same??

Hey if you cant figure it out for yourself, then it's your tough luck. I never said people should get away with it, but if someone is truely interested in a dragon they will ask for other pics in diff scenarios to see if their suspisions are correct. You have a heck of alot of nothing to say, except the same old crap.

 

[Omnomnami]

Can't believe there are still people buying from her and defending her after all this crap. It's just a matter of time before they get screwed over as well. Sounds to me like she's kissing lots of butt.

 

[Matt2979]

I know nothing of this Ed person, all I know is he was supposedly dating Nicole for awhile. I don't talk to her frequently, as I've been very ill. I'm going by what I have read, and the posts, from the same old people, saying the same old thing, about the same old dragon. I'm letting you know my personal opinion on Nicole, as I live in the same area as she does and helped her get started in dragons. I honest and truely don't want to get involved, as now you peolpe are bashing at me. LOL it's the same crap as it was yrs ago on here. We never bred for other breeders, we bred healthy dragons for the community. So they would get to know how loving a dragon can be. When other breeders buy from one another it's typically because they firmly believe that the dragon would benifit their genetics. I don't see any BIG names on here as far as breeders go and that's what's important. The lil guy will always try to discredit the next. Believe me, I've seen alot. I'm done leaving my comments so go ahead and tare them apart if you must. Good luck to all, & we do wish peace & prosperity to everyone! Kind Regards, Rhea

WHY are YOU going so far overboard trying to protect Nicole??? Especially after all of your comments a couple of months ago?? (I realize that this has been asked by several people, but I'm still very confused by this move.)

While you continue to complain about everyone bashing Nicole...for things that she's been caught doing and even admitted to doing, you're also protecting her tooth and nail, based on your personal OPINION. How can you say that your eyes are wide-open??

 

[Dragonz Whispers]

No, I go by what I experience, not what others experience. That's how I live my life anyway's, through my own eyes, and anyone who reads this should make their own conclusion, not based on anyone elses. Do you personally know or have you met Nicole? Have you known her, I mean personally? Half of these threads are just blood suckers, people. As far as how she conducts her business, IDK. Maybe she has alot to learn, like most of us. Okay continue to tare apart what I said all by yourself. I have a life to live while I have the time to do so. good Luck!

 

[shlages]

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174807&highlight=nicole+norton

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166125&highlight=nicole+norton

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135080&highlight=nicole+norton

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158532&highlight=nicole+norton

Here's the a couple other threads about Nicole... Maybe you should inform yourself of who you are aligning yourself with.
Just a question for you though... So because YOU don't know any of our names as "breeders" what we have to say is just garbage?? Are you kidding me?
She is so questionable yet you want to defend her til the end?? Wow.
@ Iraqvet-- the ONLY other people i know of that lock the sales ads regularly is Clarks Geckos...

 

[aleria]

No, I go by what I experience, not what others experience. That's how I live my life anyway's, through my own eyes, and anyone who reads this should make their own conclusion, not based on anyone elses. Do you personally know or have you met Nicole? Have you known her, I mean personally? Half of these threads are just blood suckers, people. As far as how she conducts her business, IDK. Maybe she has alot to learn, like most of us. Okay continue to tare apart what I said all by yourself. I have a life to live while I have the time to do so. good Luck!

Ok so by your word then, just because you personally haven't experienced being screwed over and lied to by her(that you will admit to now), that no one that has come forward proving that she has done so to them should be listened to?
Hey if you want to only learn from the mistakes you make while ignoring other people trying to protect everyone else from getting scammed then go for it. I guess not everyone is wise enough to know that you can learn far more from the mistakes of others than even your own experiences.
I know I don't have to personally go buy from a known bad guy to say for sure that they are a bad guy.

 

[Omnomnami]

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174807&highlight=nicole+norton

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166125&highlight=nicole+norton

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135080&highlight=nicole+norton

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158532&highlight=nicole+norton

Here's the a couple other threads about Nicole... Maybe you should inform yourself of who you are aligning yourself with.
Just a question for you though... So because YOU don't know any of our names as "breeders" what we have to say is just garbage?? Are you kidding me?
She is so questionable yet you want to defend her til the end?? Wow.
@ Iraqvet-- the ONLY other people i know of that lock the sales ads regularly is Clarks Geckos...

Ed also locked his ads before he got banned. I wonder why.

I saw one of Nicole's ads unlocked yesterday and it took every bit of restraint in my body to not disrupt her ad.

 

[Matt2979]

Ok so by your word then, just because you personally haven't experienced being screwed over and lied to by her(that you will admit to now), that no one that has come forward proving that she has done so to them should be listened to?
Hey if you want to only learn from the mistakes you make while ignoring other people trying to protect everyone else from getting scammed then go for it. I guess not everyone is wise enough to know that you can learn far more from the mistakes of others than even your own experiences.
I know I don't have to personally go buy from a known bad guy to say for sure that they are a bad guy.

Jessica's point (mainly speaking of the one in bold print) is one that I live MY life by. If you and I are running through a field and you step in a hole and break your leg...I'M not gonna step in that hole!!

 

[DAND]

Jessica's point (mainly speaking of the one in bold print) is one that I live MY life by. If you and I are running through a field and you step in a hole and break your leg...I'M not gonna step in that hole!!

Agreed! Some people are smarter then others and can learn from other people's mistakes.

(i.e.) If Johnny is unfortunate enough to touch the stove and get burned I will not need to verify the stove is hot by touching it myself.

 

[Iraqvet]

Hey if you cant figure it out for yourself, then it's your tough luck. I never said people should get away with it, but if someone is truely interested in a dragon they will ask for other pics in diff scenarios to see if their suspisions are correct. You have a heck of alot of nothing to say, except the same old crap.

Sounds like hollow BS to me...You like to make up stuff like Nicole does...Your "friend" was the worst at it and I was the one who caught it...So no I am not stupid...Good thing is,the same old crap I say is TRUE..

No, I go by what I experience, n
ot what others experience. That's how I live my life anyway's, through my own eyes, and anyone who reads this should make their own conclusion, not based on anyone elses. Do you personally know or have you met Nicole? Have you known her, I mean personally? Half of these threads are just blood suckers, people. As far as how she conducts her business, IDK. Maybe she has alot to learn, like most of us. Okay continue to tare apart what I said all by yourself. I have a life to live while I have the time to do so. good Luck!

Sorry,not everyone wants to take a chance on being ripped off..Thats pretty stupid to not learn from the people before you...Its called evolution...

 

[Omnomnami]

Sorry,not everyone wants to take a chance on being ripped off..Thats pretty stupid to not learn from the people before you...Its called evolution...

I have to make a to this.

 

[Iraqvet]

Jessica's point (mainly speaking of the one in bold print) is one that I live MY life by. If you and I are running through a field and you step in a hole and break your leg...I'M not gonna step in that hole!!

 

[spyder79]

Well I guess it is a good thing that Dragonz Whispers is getting out of the hobby because any breeder that would back a company like Howlin Gale Dragons doesn't have a place in this hobby IMO.

 

[ozz465]

Dragonz Whispers- what most here are trying to convey is while you are entitled to your opinion about nicole , many other people here have been disappointed by her business dealings and have posted proof, she has refused to admit any and all fault in these events and has herself admitted to many of them in previous threads .

It seems it is best you read previous threads carefully and see for yourself that nicole is not who you think she is . I myself gave her the benefit of the doubt and contemplated buying from her , yet again an other bad guy thread appeared and she dug herself deeper in it .

 

[Lucille]

No, I go by what I experience, not what others experience.......I have a life to live while I have the time to do so.

Gonna be a short life. After all, you have possibly not yet experienced falling off of a roof, cuddling a venomous snake, sticking your tongue out at a cop, shooting uncut smack, eating spoiled food, driving through a red light, cheating the IRS, touching a downed electric line, and so on. Don't learn from others, make sure you experience everything first hand.

 

[Iraqvet]

Gonna be a short life. After all, you have possibly not yet experienced falling off of a roof, cuddling a venomous snake, sticking your tongue out at a cop, shooting uncut smack, eating spoiled food, driving through a red light, cheating the IRS, touching a downed electric line, and so on. Don't learn from others, make sure you experience everything first hand.

Oh and lets hope she documents the outcomes of doing all those things lol...