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The best thing would be if someone would put the poor thing out of its misery.

I would mind my business if statments such as " I am tired of dealing with a sick animal" werent made on a public forum of Leo lovers.....
I think most would agree, if you dont intend to do everything in your power to take care of a creature, dont own one....if you take offense to that, it is only because the truth hurts. However, if you feel you have done everything in your power to take care of the Leo, then my statements don't apply to you...and you shouldn't take offense....you did, after all, take it to the vet...


IF this is a case of crypto I would higly recommend getting rid of the tank and everything the Leo came in contact with.....
Why wouldnt the vet do any test? There are many other things that it could be besides crypto, things that are treatable....

My guess is that this pet store will still be selling Leos...If they sold something that looked like that without batting an eye to make a buck, they won't stop now.

Seriously, trash the tank and get a new one....it wouldn't be worth losing another Leo jsut to save a couple bucks and not purchase a new tank....
 
now youve got me wondering. whats crypto this i have not hear dof until recently from another breeder and didnt get an explanation. how can you tell thats its crypto. the symptoms hes describing sound exactly like waht mine did and it only took some baytril and a dewormer to fix it. i ve got experience with al lkidns of physical injuries. i fixed a 2inch long by 1/2 inch deep gash in a pet garter snake i found. pppl and their lawnmowers.sheesh
 
I dunno... these kinds of threads tend to aggravate and irk me. Here's why:
k2newman said:
Well, if she's been de-wormed already, besides needing to be de-wormed again, what else could be going on?
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Dewormed with what? Worms are not the only type of parasites that a leopard gecko can be infected with. Each type of parasite requires a separate medication treatment.
k2newman said:
Maybe you should mind your own business and keep your opinios yourself shannand25.
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You came on this forum with a question which usually means you want people's opinions. So why react like that just because someone gave an opinion you didn't like?
k2newman said:
The vet said they are pretty sure she has crypto, though they didn't test for it.
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I'm so glad you took her to the vet! But, I am irked that there was no testing done and he/she made a diagnosis anyway! A simple fecal test could have made all the difference in the world for this little gecko to have the proper medication needed to save it's life. When vets make diagnoses like this, they are fostering the fear all reptile keepers have of the disease... not to mention sentencing the poor little gecko to death, perhaps unnecessarily.
snowgyre said:
Can someone please explain to me what exactly crypto is?
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Cryptosporidia is a deadly form of the protozoan parasite, coccidia. To date, there is no solid treatment that can 'cure' it and it is 99.9% fatal in Leopard Geckos, although there are new promising treatments. It is contagious through oral/fecal contact with contaminated water bowls and feces, and can wipe out an entire reptile colony. If you are interested in learning more about Crypto, do a Google search for cryptosporidium serpentis.
 
^ i just did a google search awhile ago before you made that post and found somethign you missed. like salmonella it is also easily transmissible to humans and is also way more uncomfortable. the symptoms are redundant. you may feel good but 2 days later its back to the couch/john
 
Actually, the strains of Cryptospridium that affect reptiles are NOT transmissable to humans, although many other strains are.
 
Ah... now coccidia I am aware of, having dealt with it in goats, other livestock, and dogs. I just didn't know the proper term of the disease. Thanks for the info though, Marcia! That certainly clears things up for me!

Now, with livestock the symptoms of this disease include diarrhea, loss of weight, and listlessness. I'm assuming geckos get the same symptoms? It doesn't surprise me that an infection that can kill a goat can kill something as tiny as a gecko.

Golden Gate Geckos said:
A simple fecal test could have made all the difference in the world for this little gecko to have the proper medication needed to save it's life.
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This bothers me too, but unfortunately it's too late. Hopefully the petshop will do this relatively cheap procedure, but I really doubt it. I don't think they'll take any action until most of their reptile stock are dead and dying. It's amazing that people don't do anything about a serious problem until it starts hurting their pocketbooks.

Golden Gate Geckos said:
Actually, the strains of Cryptospridium that affect reptiles are NOT transmissable to humans, although many other strains are.
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That's good to know. Coccidia is not something I'd like to have, so although this may be true I simply wouldn't take the chance. I'd trash everything and use sterile, disposable plastic gloves doing it. Call me paranoid, but I sure don't want those nasty critters in my digestive track even if they can't cause me problems!
 
Cryptospridiosis is a dreadful diagnosis.

There are many diagnostic methods for checking for the disease and false negatives occur. It usually takes 3 negatives before an animal can be said to not be infected.

There is no cure. Treatment can prolong life, but quality of life can still suffer. And an infected animal remains a danger to every other reptile in a collection. This is something to consider for people who have collections of their own and only visit.

The disease is highly infectious. The organism is highly resistant to environmental factors. Bleach can not be relied upon to kill or rid the organism from the environment.
Anything that an infected animal, its waste or regurgitated matter touches becomes a potential source of infection to other susceptible animals. Think about this, this is a lot of things. Every crack, crevice, wrinkle, fold or pinpoint dimple becomes a haven for the organism to hide in.

As has been said already, and in light of how resistant and infectious this organism is, I would not buy another animal from this pet shop. Not even feeders.
 
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