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Busted!

 

[JudyC]

Why are you doing this? Do you realize that if you put half as much energy into personal integrity and a legitmate business, you could be doing just great. But instead, you are working SO hard just to rip people off and steal their money and/or snakes.

We tried very hard to give you the benefit of the doubt...but let me tell you something....the "doubt" was VERY strong from the very first moment you showed your latest face to the world. You will NOT get away with this, no matter how many times you try.

And at the same time, you cast deep shadows over every poor newbie who happens to be from Dayton, OH. But of course, if you care so little about others that you will steal their animals and money...then I guess the discomfort and doubts you cause for innocents must mean less than squat. It's sad and pathetic.

 

[swillman]

Someone's got some 'splannin' to do!

 

[Dennis Hultman]

Great Job, Deborah!

Has anyone informed Kelli that this scammer found his way to her site?

 

[Deborah Stewart]

Great Job, Deborah!

Has anyone informed Kelli that this scammer found his way to her site?

Thanks Dennis, I did send a message through the gecko forum where I am now a member.

 

[Royal Morphz]

he said while on the phone with me that frequented the reptile room site haven't had the timeto check it out I think this guy if cooked stick a fork in him he is done LOL

 

[addsdad]

Sweet work Deborah and to everyone else who keeps helping to bust this loser.

 

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[***nvp***]

Hello people, those pics are from D.R. the man mentioned earlier, I bought those animals around two weeks ago, when I posted the pics on the geck forum all I did was just post up the ones D.R. had sent me, becuase I didn't have any of my own, as I explained via text today to Tim Johnson, and by the way why would you tell me you didn't think I was a bad guy when you talked to me today and then post "I think this guy if cooked stick a fork in him he is done LOL" that's not very kind, I have never and will never steal from anyone, I have never planned on it either, you guys have no right to contact the gecko forum as I have not done anything to anybody! Nor have I tried to! I have been dealing with a few shaddy charectors the past couple months, you would never know they were scamming by meeting these people, I didn't! Every one keeps saying "busted" well I have done nothing to be busted for!, I have not lied or stolen or scammed anyone!! I did post up some pics that someone had sent me,but I own the animals now, I needed pics to post so I used them from what he had sent me! It was stupid now that I think of it but, it doesn't make me a theif, everyone needs to come off of the name calling. I have done nothing wrong! And Tim just to prove a point...I'm going to get my son bathed and fed.. and then I am sending you what I told you I would, let's hope you keep your end of the deal like you said you would...

 

[NathanLedet]

Hello people, those pics are from D.R. the man mentioned earlier, I bought those animals around two weeks ago, when I posted the pics on the geck forum all I did was just post up the ones D.R. had sent me, becuase I didn't have any of my own, as I explained via text today to Tim Johnson, and by the way why would you tell me you didn't think I was a bad guy when you talked to me today and then post "I think this guy if cooked stick a fork in him he is done LOL" that's not very kind, I have never and will never steal from anyone, I have never planned on it either, you guys have no right to contact the gecko forum as I have not done anything to anybody! Nor have I tried to! I have been dealing with a few shaddy charectors the past couple months, you would never know they were scamming by meeting these people, I didn't! Every one keeps saying "busted" well I have done nothing to be busted for!, I have not lied or stolen or scammed anyone!! I did post up some pics that someone had sent me,but I own the animals now, I needed pics to post so I used them from what he had sent me! It was stupid now that I think of it but, it doesn't make me a theif, everyone needs to come off of the name calling. I have done nothing wrong! And Tim just to prove a point...I'm going to get my son bathed and fed.. and then I am sending you what I told you I would, let's hope you keep your end of the deal like you said you would...

Had this been my name called into question, I would have scanned and posted a copy of my drivers license in a heart beat. It's not hard to block out the address an other sensitive information - but something you can't fake would go a long way at this point.

You're legitimate? Prove it.

 

[Deborah Stewart]

At this point Michael you should have cleared your name RIGHT away soon as people starting questioning you, not 24, 48 or 72 hours later unless of course you need time to counterfeit the piece of evidence you wish to provide to people

It would have take you less time to prove who you were yesterday than the time it took me today to track you down and gather the evidence I provided.

If someone had ask me for an ID or utility bill in my name and address (since you already gave your address) I would have posted it within 5 minutes of being post, at the worse soon as I would have come home.

This thread was started Sunday and so far NOTHING

No email proving you contacted people regarding the scam you were viticm

Not paper trail of the animal that were purchased

No pictures of the breeder animals you own

No proof of ID

 

[jluman]

Michael,

From what I read in post #6, the fake het lavenders you mentioned there had fake paperwork that was made to give the impression that the animals had been produced by Grant W. In the email you sent me (copied into post #9), you said the snakes were not produced by Grant. How many fake hets and sets of fake paperwork do you have?

 

[***nvp***]

Sticky tongues and I have concluded that you all need to see the info, that I have come forward with! Maybe this will help you all realize that I am not the bad guy! Everyone just hold on till you hear what sam has.

 

[ToshaMc]

Sticky tongues and I have concluded that you all need to see the info, that I have come forward with! Maybe this will help you all realize that I am not the bad guy! Everyone just hold on till you hear what sam has.

Nope -- it's not up to Sam to clear your name -- it's up to you.

 

[***nvp***]

Just shut up and wait! I seriously can't take this anymore. Wait and see what he has..I don't care about clearing my name becuase like I said earlier some people just don't care what you have to say.

 

[Deborah Stewart]

YOU have to clear your name no one else!

People have been waiting since 10-05-2008, 07:38 PM it is now 10-07-2008 7.02 PM, yet you keep posting without any prshowing any proofs....why is that?

I can tell you that if I was questioned the proof and everything everyone asked for would have already been laid out for everyone to see.

And from your posts it seems like you are making the story as it goes based on what people are posting.

The het are questionable you just found out they were fakes

The geckos being featured on a know scammer website, well you just used his picture but he is the scammer in question

If he was than not not come forward with that sooner since it is not a secret, it was on the boi already!?

So what’s next? Well I guess it will depends on what people found out next

Sticky tongues and I have concluded that you all need to see the info, that I have come forward with! Maybe this will help you all realize that I am not the bad guy! Everyone just hold on till you hear what sam has.

 

[StickyTongues]

Since Michael is ok with me posting his emails here they are. Take it as you wish. Based on some preliminary investigation I did I am still not sure what to believe at this point but this person Donald Rollins just through me for a loop. I've updated the police reports including this persons name so we'll see what comes from it.


--- On Sun, 10/5/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 9:55 PM

Hello, this info must be kept off the forum's as the guy knows me and where I live, he also ripped me off selling me fake hets for lav. albino , I bought one last year bred it this year then tried to sell the babies when I found out the hard way I was scamme , but not before I traded for another 1.1 pair with phony papers! Again please keep my name out of this as I have young children and a family. My batteries on my keyboard are low so if some misspellings occur thats why. you had the mojave and ghost, correct? well he traded the ghost off at the last all-ohio show on oct. 4 for some boas, I was there I saw it, I have been dealing with this guy for about a month or so now, we had tables next to each other at that show and at he last west carrolton show.the mojave is at his house in dayton. along with the other guys 1.1 fires and the spider, I know its his spider becuase of the "moustach" seen in the pics.And a bee but I didn't see anyone missing a bee,I went there to talk to him to try to get my money or something back for what he screwed me on and took these cell phone pics, they are horrible bu your mojave is in the bottom left hand corner balled up!! I promiss these are yours! I even saw the paper work for the fires! his name is donny rollins, he is using another guys house in new carlisle to ship too and he uses the computers there and at local libraies, he is on parole for drugs as he just got out like 6 mos. ago. I have a phone number and email address and I can get an address. but I warn you if you let him know he will get rid of them! as he and a friend also have a shop or "rescue" in miamisburg,oh that guys name is jay,check dayton craigslist for reptile rescue's, again it's donald lee rollins and jay ??? donny's phone is 937-718-1889 cosler ave,st, or dr. in dayton,ohio I can figure out who he traded the ghost to at the next show in columbus on the 25th anything else you need i can get it!!
--- On Sun, 10/5/08, sam leam <[email protected]> wrote:

From: sam leam <[email protected]>
Subject: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 9:14 PM

Hi Mike,

What do you have for me? His real name would be a tremendous help or any info on whether he has sold them to anyone.

Sam Leam


--- On Sun, 10/5/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:02 PM


I think xanaxez a member on fuana is jay from miamisburg! jay is the one watching for him


--- On Sun, 10/5/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:17 PM


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=125287633

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=338052764 here's your guys


--- On Sun, 10/5/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:18 PM

check the pics the animals are there

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:35 PM

here is a list he gave me about a week or so ago trying to trade me some animals for a set of wheels I had on craigslist, here is his email [email protected] notice your animals he has up for sale!!


1- NORMAL BABY BALL PYTHONS = $25 EACH
11- FANCY BABY BALL PYTHONS = $50-$100 EACH
1.1 - FIRE 100% HET LUECISTIC BABY BALL PYTHONS = $1750
0.1 - SPIDER 100% HET ALBINO BABY BALL PYTHON = $800
1.0 - MOJAVE BABY BALL PYTHON = $400
1.0 - 2 FOOT NORMAL BALL PYTHON = $50
1.0 - ADULT PASTEL BALL PYTHON = $200 (PROVEN)
1.0 - ADULT BALL PYTHON = $75
1.1- 3 1/2 FOOT ADULT BALL PYTHONS = $250 (WAS BREEDING 8-12-08)
8 - BABY COLUMBIAN REDTAIL BOAS = $75 EACH
4 - BABY NICUAGUAN BOAS = $50 EACH
0.1 - 2 FOOT NICUAGUAN BOA = $75
1.0 - BABY PASTEL BOA = $125
4.0 - 6 FOOT BOAS = $150 EACH
0.3 - 8 FOOT REDTAIL BOAS = $250 EACH
0.1 - 8 FOOT TYPE 2 ANERY BOA $350
0.1 - 9 FOOT REDTAIL BOA = $300
1.1 - 6 FOOT 100%HET ANERY BOAS = $500 (PROVEN)
1.1 - 7 FOOT 100%HET ALBINO BOAS = $500 (PROVEN)
1.1 - 4 FOOT COLUMBIAN RAINBOW BOAS = $400 (PROVEN)
1.1 - DUMERILS BOAS (0.1=6 FOOT, 1.0=4 1/2 FOOT) = $500
1.1 - 6 1/2 FOOT RED TAIL BOAS = $400 (PROVEN)
0.2 - 6 FOOT YELLOW ANACONDAS = $250 EACH
0.1 - 5 FOOT JUNGLE CARPET PYTHON = $200
1.1 - 7 FOOT ALBINO BURMESE PYTHONS = $450 A PAIR
1.0 - 8 FOOT REGULAR BURMESE PYTHON = $150
1.0 - 11 FOOT ALBINO BURMESE PYTHON = $350
0.1 - 9 FOOT REGULAR BURMESE PYTHON = $200
1.0 - 10 FOOT ALBINO BURMESE PYTHON = $300
0.1 - 10 FOOT REGULAR BURMESE PYTHON = $250
0.1 - 11 FOOT REGULAR BURMESE PYTHON = $250
0.1 - 12 1/2 FOOT REGULAR BURMESE PYTHON = $300
1.0 - 7 FOOT RETICULATED PYTHON = $150 (TAME)
1.0 - 11 FOOT GRANITE BACK RETICULATED PYTHON = $300
1.2 TANGERINE PHASE HONDURAN MILK SNAKES = $ 300 TRIO
1- 2 FOOT BANDED WATER SNAKE FROM TENNESSEE = $25
1 - TWO FOOT AMERICAN ALIGATORS = $100
3.0 - 3 FOOT SAVANNAH MONITOR = $ 200 EACH (DOG TAME)
1- 18 INCH NILE MONITOR = $50
1.0 - 6 FOOT NILE MONITOR = $800
1 - BABY HIGH (ORANGE/PASTEL HIGH YELLOW) BEARDED DRAGON = $45
1.2 - 2 YEAR OLD BEARDED DRAGONS $500 TRIO (PROVEN LAID 15 EGGS 9/23/08)
1.2 - 1 1/2 YEAR OLD BEARDED DRAGONS $450 TRIO
1 - SUB-ADULT GARGOYLE GECKO = $65
1.0 - 4 FOOT IGUANA = $150
1 - 18 INCH SUMOTRAN WATER MONITOR = $175
0.1 - 3 FOOT WATER MONITOR = $300
0.1 - 5 FOOT WATER MONITOR = $600
2- ADULT EMPORIOR SCORPIONS = $15 EACH
1.0 - 1 1/2 YAER OLD MILITARY MACAW & LARGE CALIFORNIA CAGE = $1500

WILL GIVE DISCOUNT ON QUANTITY PURCHASES & WILL CONSIDER ALL TRADES

THANK YOU , DONALD & JAY
937-866-5521 (BEFORE 7PM) DONALD & JAY
937-718-1889 (AFTER 7PM) DONALD
937-241-5551 (ANY TIME) JAY


- On Mon, 10/6/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:21 AM

He has a run down house he is trying to sell at that address but no one stays there he stays with some girl on cosler he has a bunch of animals there,I have seen your guys animals there like I said you can plainly see the spider and a fire in that pic. ou are more than welcome as he has screwwed me over as well and pretty much stolen a majority of my codom's in the trades for fake hets now my animals are gone, and I'm not a man of very much money or animals so it's going to be very hard to rebuild my collection! Maybe as a token of gradatude you can give me some really good deals on a couple animals!! Lol Let me know what else you need I will, get the names of the breeders he traded the ghost to, and if they have it up for sale a pic.Thank you. Michael


- On Mon, 10/6/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:45 AM

I will have to think about that, I am very sorry but as I said, I have a family and small children. I and have to live here, you guys don't, he knows exactly where I live, as he came here to get my animals, my animals are long gone, they aren't at his place, or at jay's. I checked, belive me. I mean to guy is a criminal that is on parole still, he would most likely do "whatever" to stay out of jail. I don't need any of this carrying into my families life. But I am happy to do as much sluething as you need. I can get you an actual physical address to where the animals are know which is where he is staying. If you can get the people he traded the ghost to you may not need me as a witness anyway.I hope you understand where 'm coming from on this one, I'm not trying to be difficult at all. But this is affecting my biz as well as everytime I put up an animal everyone thinks "I'm" a scam becuase of where I live, I'm having problems right now on the boi becuase of it! Read the thread and the problem now is that the caramek male I speak of in the thread is "Jay's" so Now how am I gonna get picks of him and my female together since they are avoiding me becuase they scammed me! I a going to look very bad. Not to sound like a junky or anything, lmao, but would you be willing to hook me up on a couple deals? That sounds pathetic I know, but I'm just trying to get a few things back from what I lost so I can get back on track. I sound awful....I am sorry... Michael

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, sam leam <[email protected]> wrote:
From: sam leam <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:23 AM

Are you willing to add your name to the police reports I already filed? Maybe you can get your property back? The officer said I already have a good case against him in civil court but I am holding out to file criminal charges against him instead.

Sam Leam

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:49 PM

If the people on fauna dont stop putting the guys name on the board he will
surely catch on

On Mon, 10/6/08, michael spradlin <[email protected]> wrote:
From: michael spradlin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stolen Animals
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:01 PM

Thank
you my friend, I will still consider getting into the invest. on paper.
But I need to see how this thread on fuana pans out if the guy figures
out I'm outing him he might try something drastic towards me and my
family, that's why I have been worried about the thread, I don't care
that people are trying to discredit me, I know me and I know what I
have done, and I have done nothing scandelous. I honestly don't care
what the forum's say I just want this guy to get what he's got coming.I
can't afford 1000(you wrote 100 but I assumed 1000, if it's 100 I want
them, lol) right now, I am looking for guaranteed hets from someone
reputable. Like albino hets, and a female spider 1.1 yellow belly..As I
don't have much cash now and I have gotten screwed on most of my
snakes. But I greatly appreciate the offer. Are you going to come up
for the show in columbus? On the 25th?

 

[StickyTongues]

Sorry guys I don't have much else to offer right now. I have to read the whole thread and will add what I can later tomorrow night. I haven't had much time in the last week +.

 

[***nvp***]

everyone check out the links, the animals are there and he offers them up for sale!

 

[Deborah Stewart]

Can you tell me how those email prove who YOU are?