Inquiry ***nvp*** on this site as well as BP.Net

[Keleida]

Being rude isn't helping your case at all.

 

[Deborah Stewart]

So let me resume Saturday around 4 PM

I learned the lav's where fake the day I talked to grant, saturday I belief

And I didn't find out until around 4pm ask grant !

you found out that Jay was a scammer the same Jay who own a caramel male that sire the Pastel Het Caramel you had for sale

Jay caramek male I speak of in the thread is "Jay's"

So after finding out all this on Saturday at 4 PM you decided to place an ad that same Saturday at 11.06 PM in which you state

This guy is just over 100 grams empty and is the product of my 05 Jungle Pastel female and a friend's beautiful 06 Caramel Albino male.

 

[***nvp***]

Being rude isn't helping your case at all.

Tell the rest of these people the same, as I have been having rudeness thrown at me for 17 pages now, I'm very sorry for my hatefullness, but I am truely aggravated with this. Not to mention I just got done from a 12 hour day at work to come home to an awful acting terrible two,while the wife is at work, this is what most of my days consist of it tends to build frustration's. Sorry if I have offended anyone, but no one is appologizing for offending me so, who cares..

 

[***nvp***]

So let me resume Saturday around 4 PM
you found out that Jay was a scammer the same Jay who own a caramel male that sire the Pastel Het Caramel you had for sale

So after finding out all this on Saturday at 4 PM you decided to place an ad that same Saturday at 11.06 PM in which you state

Jesus...I didn't realize that jay was in on the deal until late late that night, actually it may have even been the next day, I'm not even sure anymore. You guys have got to be running out of sh!t that I have said to pick apart..Come on seriously! Anyone else have something that I've said they would like to try to pick apart..come one CSI help these people! This is ridiculous.

 

[Royal Morphz]

read the post above yours Michael

 

[***nvp***]

would anyone like to thank me for the info I've provided or leading them to their animals???why would I even do that if I was busy scamming people? Hell why would I be here, why wouldn't I have just created a new name for myself!

 

[***nvp***]

read the post above yours Michael

What?Which one?did you get my phone proof? did you figure out whp margret was..lol maybe you need to find a new phone tracing service!

 

[Deborah Stewart]

Jesus...I didn't realize that jay was in on the deal until late late that night, actually it may have even been the next day, I'm not even sure anymore. You guys have got to be running out of sh!t that I have said to pick apart..Come on seriously! Anyone else have something that I've said they would like to try to pick apart..come one CSI help these people! This is ridiculous.

Sorry but the inconsistency and the ever changing story is not helping you, I just go by what YOU say.

All I see is that soon as a new point is brought up the story changes

So now that you know that this person is a scammer did you go to the police and file a complaint? Do you have a copy of the report?

 

[***nvp***]

WTF the story has never once changed! And the polic report would get me where? Oh hey I TRADED some animals for some other animals but they were the animals they wre supposed to be! officer- Well sir did you recieve the animals me- yes i recieved animals but not the right ones! I mean the dayton city police won't come take a report if your house is broken into! they do it over the phone! I tried to find the guy and get my sh!t back is what I did , but he is still mia.

 

[Royal Morphz]

the first number in the post that Sam wrote where u gave him 3 numbers the first on which is for jay and donny belongs to this business: All About Wood Restoration & Finishing Services
16 S Main St, Miamisburg, OH, 45342
937-866-5521
its a number he supposedly gave to you which in turn u gave to Sam Leam if you cant find him why dont ya go to his place of business i mean you said your scared for yours and your families lives so he must know where you live so you must know him enough to trust him to come to your home or your just an idiot for giving a stranger your address which is it

 

[ToshaMc]

oh yea toshamac READ THE F#$^ING THREADS ALREADY BEFORE YOU POST!!! explained that already anyone want to ask some more questions that I have already answered? I'd luv to answer them 4 or 5 more times please.

Sorry I went through your posts a few times and can't find where you mentioned your RDR lavender albino that supposedly bred the fake female het -- grant it I could well have missed it your sentence syntax doesn't make it easy to read, understand or follow. So refresh my memory on the story behind this fellow? Thanks.

 

[Royal Morphz]

ok i just got this email from Michael: fuck you ....call me an idiot! back stabbin prick you are! how dare you! i'm goin to bed, and jay isn't the donny guy whom got out of prison whom i'm worried about! how come no one is talking about what I brought to the table! everyone is worried about playing csi on the wrong guy ...fuck you tim your a back stabbing prick!

Now bear in mind ive been trying to help him like by proving he isnt Matt /Allen Williamson well i called the number in my previous post the one Michael sent to Sam the one listed for Both Donny and Jay on the email from Michael to Sam its a wood refinishing shop the guy that said he was Donald Rollins says that Michael had been the main guy in all the problems and he was the guy behind all the websites as he is the "smart one" and then he hung up i normally wouldnt bring something to the table i obviously couldnt prove being it was buy a quick Telephone call but after he sent the last email to me i figure why would i hold back such damning info when Donny actually named Micheal by name lol i mean first and last lol

 

[Royal Morphz]

Mods and admins im sorry if me posting his email where he was cursing was bad i should have censored it

 

[MikeCurtin]

And now that he's caught....again, he wants to play the knight in shining armor role and get lots of paraise for finding everyone's stolen animals...you know....that he most likely helped to steal.

 

[onelifetolive45]

Wow so I just read through about 10 or so pages, and am a little lost. So Michael was the "Head" of this little smuggling operation? He came up with this whole elaborate story to what, sell fake hets for 500.00 a piece? Correct me if I am wrong, not that it matters this guy is slime and will not make a cent anyway.

 

[KelliH]

Well, I went ahead and banned this guy from my site, even though I find this thread extremely hard to follow. I have to protect the members of GF, so for now this person is banned.

 

[xanaxez]

they were at the reptile show in west carrollton saturday. and the name of the business he sells out of is called (all about wood) in miamisburg ohio

 

[JudyC]

Michael...I'm pointing these things out not because I want to nail anyone to the wall....but because I'm genuinely concerned and want to get this hellacious convoluted mess cleared up as much as possible.

Can you please explain this contradiction in your story:

... I myself have just fell victem to a 100% het lavender albino scam, as I was given fake paper work and everything, I traded several of my codom's, which I do not have that many of, so I took a huge loss on the deal. ...

And:

I learned the lav's where fake the day I talked to grant, saturday I belief. The deal with "the guy" was all done in person with cash, which I regret now, ...

And this is yet another fascinating coincidence between something you've said and something said by one of the multitude of Dayton, OH personas proven to be wrapped up in all of this:

Quoted from your e-mail to Sam Lean as posted in #57 of this thread:

My batteries on my keyboard are low so if some misspellings occur thats why.

From the "Matt Beatty - GOOD GUY" thread...

i wrote AR meaning arizona....tuscon,AR..maybe i'm stupid..lmao...it is AZ isn't it...i started to write out a r i z o n a and i never realized it didn't all go thru..i guess the almost dead battery on my wireless keyboard played a part...sorry people for the mix up..please don't associate me or my good friends at got herps? with this type of person....

While that is a small coincidence in the grand scheme of things...it adds yet another bit of the puzzle. This guy, "herper565" was just as adamant about his own "innocence" as well as the innocence of his "friend" Jacob Rollins. Rollins was easily proved to be a liar and scammer and herper565 was proven to have the exact same IP, along with several others. They are all wrapped up in this same mess that is growing beyond rediculous.

 

[Deborah Stewart]

So many contradictions, so many inconsistencies, so many similarities and so many thing unraveling in one weekend after an inquiry was made about you

And as a new Ball Python breeder as well as someone that has been breeding Geckos for 15 years you do not care to clear up your name and provide proofs

 

[Dennis Hultman]

While that is a small coincidence in the grand scheme of things...it adds yet another bit of the puzzle. This guy, "herper565" was just as adamant about his own "innocence" as well as the innocence of his "friend" Jacob Rollins. Rollins was easily proved to be a liar and scammer and herper565 was proven to have the exact same IP, along with several others. They are all wrapped up in this same mess that is growing beyond rediculous.

Nope, not just a small one. I looked at a lot of the posts under the other screen names the other day.

Besides being the same dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net pool, the same pictures, the same animals, the same first thread on all three forums wanting trades, none of them can spell "because" None of them can spell "experience". Everyone of these screen names out of dayton spell because as "becuase" and god bless their heart the continual butchering of the word experience. Add that to the above, it is pretty obvious what is going on.