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Odd clutch pair
- Thread starter ShannanD25
- Start date
wsmitty
New member
Very nice babies. 15 days appart is really odd. Maybe the late bloomer is a female.
wayne
wayne
ShannanD25
Leo Groupie
I incubate for female at 80 degrees. This clutch apppeared in a tank where I had put a female for some time alone away from her mate. She needed to regain some weight. I found the eggs in her hide under her heat lamp....I incubated for female but figured they may have had a day or two at high temps....so that ALbino is probably a male...
I hatched out two more "snows" from this pairing. It will be interesting to see how much of their white they maintain....
I hatched out two more "snows" from this pairing. It will be interesting to see how much of their white they maintain....
ShannanD25
Leo Groupie
Jeremy Letkey
Keeping to myself
That's just crazy. Nice animals though. Great variety. lol 
g&mgeckos
Margaritaville Tour Guide
Great looking pair! Strange to be so far apart.
groovygeckos
GroovyGeckos.com
Awesome babies ! Hey , the one on the left looks like one of my "Mack" Snow babies !
ShannanD25
Leo Groupie
she looks like one and was one heck of a alot cheaper too....I plan on holding them and anymore that pop out till they are much much older, just to see when they yellow up and if...
thesnakecharmer
Gecko Activist
Wow, those are some beautiful babies! They are certainly an odd pair . . keep us posted on their progress! 
dragonflyreptiles
New member
Those are awesome Shannan, those "snows" are very interesting and can;t wait to see updates on them!
Dan Lubinsky
New member
Those are all definitely worth getting excited about. Looks like daddy's het for more than albino. Thanks Shannan, looking forward to updates.
WizardLizards
Gecko Junkies
Shannan,
I know you must be running out of room with all those hatchlings running around. I have no problem taking one of those snows in, just to help you lighten the load.
Tony
P.S. Nice looking leos!!!!
I know you must be running out of room with all those hatchlings running around. I have no problem taking one of those snows in, just to help you lighten the load.
Tony
P.S. Nice looking leos!!!!
CoolGecko
Deaf Gecko Breeder
WOW! you must love the suprise. Looks like you will have better year with those suprise if you keep and breed them to father to prove out whatever you wants!
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ShannanD25
Leo Groupie
Wow, everyone has been so helpful in offering to help make room by taking those "snows"......
It is funny. I inspect them everyday to see if they are yellowing up....and hoping they don't.
The parents came from Sam at Gecko Den....I don't think he ever bred them with each other....bet he wishes he did now.....if they stay that white.
Tony, will you be at the Hamburg show on the 6th? We will as a venodr!
It is funny. I inspect them everyday to see if they are yellowing up....and hoping they don't.
The parents came from Sam at Gecko Den....I don't think he ever bred them with each other....bet he wishes he did now.....if they stay that white.
Tony, will you be at the Hamburg show on the 6th? We will as a venodr!
ShannanD25
Leo Groupie
And a question about the three "snows"
If they maintain their white, are they snows?
If they yellow a bit, are they snows?
I was looking around and I see so many light yellow to obviously yellow Leos being labeled as snows....to me, if it isn't true white, it isn't a snow...it is a pastel. What are the guide lines on it. I expect these three to color up a bit as my luck is never good...certainly not good enough to have three snows pop out of nowhere.
If bred to a pastel or "snow" male, would they throw "snow" babies.
I just really don't understand all the co-dom -vs- line bred -vs-Mack-vs-Super snow differences....
If they maintain their white, are they snows?
If they yellow a bit, are they snows?
I was looking around and I see so many light yellow to obviously yellow Leos being labeled as snows....to me, if it isn't true white, it isn't a snow...it is a pastel. What are the guide lines on it. I expect these three to color up a bit as my luck is never good...certainly not good enough to have three snows pop out of nowhere.
If bred to a pastel or "snow" male, would they throw "snow" babies.
I just really don't understand all the co-dom -vs- line bred -vs-Mack-vs-Super snow differences....
If they are true Mack Snows, you will know by breeding them to any other gecko and you will get 50% Mack Snow babies and 50% normals.
If they are line Bred snows, you will know because when you breed them to normals you will get normal looking babies with maybe a little more white than normal. If they are line bred, then you should breed them to other line bred snows to make nicer line breds.
Ok, that was my crappy take on Genetics...LOL
If they are line Bred snows, you will know because when you breed them to normals you will get normal looking babies with maybe a little more white than normal. If they are line bred, then you should breed them to other line bred snows to make nicer line breds.
Ok, that was my crappy take on Genetics...LOL
ShannanD25
Leo Groupie
Okay, so far I am following your explaination alot better the most!
So why are there Leos being sold as snow that are yellow? Is it becuase if they are bred with a true snow they throw snow babies? Or...well...that part still confuses me...
So why are there Leos being sold as snow that are yellow? Is it becuase if they are bred with a true snow they throw snow babies? Or...well...that part still confuses me...
ShannanD25 said:
They are just called Snows because that is what the first person who bred them decided to call them, and then when John Mack made his he called them the same thing. Just, 1 is line Bred and one is genetic.
There are different grades of "Line Bred Snows" (Not Mack Snows), ranging from C Grade to A+ Grade, A+ having no Yellow or almost no yellow and C Grade having more yellow (But less than Pastels). Breeding line bred Snows is like breeding Tangerines, by breeding one Snow to another Snow with less yellow, the babies will have less yellow.
Mack Snows are C0-dominant Snows. When you breed a Mack to any Leopard, you will get 50% Mack Snows, and 50% Normals.
Here is my Line Bred Snow, I would consider it a B+
