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If you make an offer on an animal, should the seller expect payment immediately if the offer is accepted or should the seller have to wait 2 months for you to come up with the money?

What is your opinion?

I say, if you make an offer and it is accepted, you better be ready with the money.
 
I agree, immediate money. We've had this discussion before somewhere on the board that no one should expect a critter to be held for them unless they offer a hefty and nonrefundable deposit which the seller may accept or not to hold the critter for a day or two.

Months? No way.
 
Wait 2 months for $150? Wow, I'd be too ashamed to even make an offer if I needed the seller to wait that long. I don't even think I'd be making offers if I didn't have at least that kinda cash lying around.

I really wish I had what you were looking for, I'd have been happy to help you out. You've got some nice goodies in that tub.
 
Wait 2 months for $150?
Yep. Makes an offer. I accept and then he says I would have to wait until Sept and asks if that would be a problem.
No....not at all.....I'll pull it off the market and hold it for someone I don't know. :rolleyes:
This is the part of the hobby I can't stand.
 
You are talkin' about snakes, right, Shadera?

I believe that went right over her head! :D

As for offers--I friggin agree. The problem lies in dealing with BROKE ASSES.

For some reason, this hobby has a higher BA/H (Broke Ass to Hobbiest) ratio.

I get all kinds of neato offers--like--


BA: Will you take $x? (25% less than asking price)
ME: Yes
BA: Great, if you still have them when I get paid in two weeks and after I pay for my court appearance...

or

BA: I'll take them all for $200 shipped! Please reply I am serious! I want them!
ME: Great XXX is my paypal. Let me know when you'd like to receive them and I will get you a tracking number for Fedex on the afternoon before delivery.
BA: Can I see pics of #1 and #4 up close? Also, what do they eat and can you tell me if they are males or females?

or

BA: I know you said no trades, but would you consider trading for a one-eyed Hopi rattlesnake and some Starbucks drink certificates?

And do you know what a smart-ass like me has to say to each of those?

"Thanks for your interest! Let me know if you have any questions!"

Steve-

Thank you for creating this thread for me to vent. :D
 
You forgot these.

Will you take this amount?
Yes.
Great I'll send the payment.
No money arrived.
I know. Can you do a payment plan instead?


or

I know you don't want to split up the group but how about just this time so I can get the one I want.


or

I know this offer is only half of what you are asking but will you take it anyway since you know the economy is bad right now?


I never heard of the BA/H ratio before now but I have to agree. This hobby has a lot of that. :D
 
The time for asking questions and making deals is BEFORE you commit to asking the seller if they will take $XXX.xx.
Who are these yahoos that don't know how to play the game?
Do we not have a sticky on 'Let's make a deal' rules & regs???
Gee, and that's what I have to look forward to...yay.
 
If you make an offer on an animal, should the seller expect payment immediately if the offer is accepted or should the seller have to wait 2 months for you to come up with the money?

Only if that was inherently part of the offer the seller chose to accept.

That is to say- if the offer which is made is explicitly clear about the intention to do a payment plan or a delayed payment. The seller can then look at that offer relative to what they want out of the deal or other offers received and then make a decision on that basis.

It's probably not something I personally would be real prone to do, I tend to be a cash in hand express lane kind of guy. I know what I want, I know about what it'll cost, I get the money then go buy whatever it is.

I can almost understand it for some things though- there are animals that I have wanted, some for decades, that I have not found for sale or are very rarely available. If someone came up with some legal to own tuataras or round island boas (both very endangered and very very cool species) and offered them for sale, chances are that I wouldn't have enough free cash on-hand to make an immediate purchase. I still would regard that as a sufficiently rare opportunity that I might toss out the idea of a payment plan or a delayed payment with a deposit; which the seller can then accept or reject based on their own financial needs and the immediacy of other offers.

'course if I were to make an offer of a payment plan, I'd probably initially offer about 20% over the listed asking price, as an incentive for the seller to accept my time-delayed payments over the immediate money of someone else.

The time for asking questions and making deals is BEFORE you commit to asking the seller if they will take $XXX.xx.

I do agree with a substantial part of that statement.

To play the devil's (cheapskate's) advocate here for a moment though... Many dealers and breeders operate under a first-to-commit-gets-it mentality. It's kind of understandable- a paypal e-check in the hand is worth two in the bush but it's pretty easy to get the impression- valid or not- that a lot of dealers will just blow off the interested parties who have questions that might take three minutes to answer and go straight for the no questions asked here's the cash replies. Regardless of the order in which the contact was actually initiated.

First response sent- "Hi, I'm very interested in _____, but the ad didn't say how much it weighed. If you could give me that information, I'd be very likely to purchase it."

Second response sent- "What's your paypal address? Ship it monday."

Rather than answering interested party numero uno, a lot of dealers will just skip the tedious process of typing out some numbers and hitting reply and go straight for anyone with money waving around.

Sounding like a committed buyer, or at least a party with a serious interest, is sort of necessary with a lot of dealers. There's no take-a-number machine like there is at the deli. Although I don't think that justifies "I'll take it!" followed by the ad being pulled and shipping arrangements made, then come the questions and the buyer re-deciding if they actually want it.
 
Just in. :rofl:


I'm local to you. Would you take a goat and $200 for the group?


A friggin goat. :eek: I wasn't even sure how to reply. Just said...NO.
 
I may take an offer but money better come in 3 - 5 days.

I may offer a discount if asked.
I will accept a payment plan.
I will not do both on 1 deal!

If the customer needs a plan, full price. They make an offer I'm OK with, paid in full one shot. Waiting 2 months for even a deposit???? Not this redneck.
 
Hey SPJ--
Maybe it was one of those fancy Fainting Goats! How on earth could you pass that up??
Just kidding! LOL!

Maybe it's just me, but I feel weird even asking for money off a snake. Alot of time and money has gone into producing and maintaining the baby/sub/adult that is being purchased, especially if your talking combos, and even more so if their recessive combos.
It would feel kinda like a insult to ask someone to drop a price even though it's a great price to begin with. Just my opinions here! :)
 
If someone came up with some legal to own tuataras
LOL! If that happens, I'll sell my house, my truck, my stocks, and my soul!! Well, maybe not my soul. :D

Yeah, two months is a deal breaker, IMO.
 
LMAO!!!
My favs are the ones asking me to email them a pic when they are responding to an ad with pic here..
 
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