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Ok, first tme eggs for me. Problems and concerns.

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My female leo laid her eggs today. I was told she wouldn't breed because she was a "hot" female. Well she laid her 2 eggs today. She laid them in her water dish which was about 1/4 inch full of water. The eggs were partially submurged when I discovered them. I would say they have been there for about 2 hours or so before I found them. I didn't have a laying box because I didn't suspect eggs from her. Now I have a humid box in there for eggs. I have the eggs cooking in damp eco earth at about 80-85 now. Haven't checked the temps for a while since I set it up. Should I expect more eggs any time soon? How long until I will be able to know if the eggs aren't going to make it and what should the signs be? I have beem told to offer pinks but I don't have any here and my mice aren't producing any babies yet. She looks to be way to small for a pinky mouse so I was thinking some chopped up pinks may get her attention. What do you think,
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If shes too small for pinkies then I'm also guessing shes far too smal lto be breeding. A 1/4 inch of water you say? If she dropped them in there like that I doubt theyre fertile but you never know. How long have they been in the incubator? If theyre been in there awhile and theres no mold and theyre not drying up theres a chance they could be ok. Have you candled them to look for blood vessles? Thats a good indicator as to wether the eggs will be fertile. You also didnt say if she was with a male. Sometimes females can lay eggs without ever even seeing a male. In that case you can be sure theyre not fertile. As a side of humor I guess its lucky for us guys humans cant "have eggs" without the opposite sex :hehe: . All joking aside those are some of the things We'd be needing to know before we can totally answer your questions.
 
Yes, she was with a male. She may be ok for pinks. She is about 7-8" now. I have had them in the incubator for about 4 hours now. I may try candeling them in a while. I am not experienced at all with incubation so these guys will be my first attempt at the incubation deal. Once I can figue out why I can't delete my attachments then I can post the pics of the eggs. I will try through photobucket in a while
 
If they are fertile, you want to make sure the incubation temps are stable, between 80-85 is not good. You don't want it to fluctuate that much. The Eco earth might mold even if the eggs is good. Not sure about that, or if it will keep the moisture right for the egg either. Someone else here may have tried it and can tell you more about that. I use vermiculite, some use perilite.
 
Well I used what was handy and easy to get ready. I hope the temps will be ok. I just got the thing set up so I will get the stable temps in the morning. Also, I have the eggs half under the eco earth. Is that ok? They aren't covered, they are showing a good part of them. Is it ok to cover them entirely? They would get the best temps in the tub for sure. I am new at this so please give me as much advice as possible. I forget how big a pink mouse is. The female doesn't seem hungry at all. The male just ate a discoid roach but the female is just hanging out in the humid hide.
 
Incubation: http://www.albeysreptiles.com/incubate-eggs.htm
Pinkies: How big is the female you are breeding? If she is too small to eat pinkies that is not good. Make sure she is heavily supplemented (always have calcium available and dust on every feeding). Only some leos will eat pinkies but the ones who like them, love them. Good luck, Chris.
 
I guess I haven't dealt with pinks since my sav out grew them a while back so I am not sure on size. I would say she eats about 2 dozen crickets a week
 
What are the chances her first clutch will be fertile and with all the temp changes they have had, is there even a chance they will hatch out?
 
Jake, it's not uncommon for a first-time breeding female to lay infertile eggs. You can candle them, but you're not going to see much for blood vessels until the embryo starts developing. I bury the eggs so that about 1/2 to 1/3 of the egg is showing above the perlite. If you have mealworms or superworms, I'd leave them in a dish with some calcium and vitamin powder for her. I've never had a gecko lay eggs in a water dish (I don't use water dishes) but I have had snake eggs laid in water. They still survived, but I had caught them right away. Make sure your incubation medium is just damp enough to keep the eggs moist and "plump" but not soggy.
 
well I am using eco earth for the substrate. I got it wet and then rung it out beofore adding it to the tub to incubate in. With all the temp chances I am thinking they won't watch but who knows. I converted a small cooler into an incubator. It holds a rubbermaid shoe box with not wiggle room. There is a heat pad in the bottom of the cooler and that fits snugly in there too. I add or remove blocks at the moment to set how far away from the heat pad the eggs are. Temps range from 92 at the bottom of the cooler or right above the heat pad to 83 range about 5" from the heat mat. Like i said I wasn't prepared at all so I just made do with what I had handy. If they don't hatch out I will only change 2 things, get them set up earlier by being prepared now that I know she can lay eggs, and get my dimmer set up. I am working on the dimmer. I will go get pics of the eggs in a bit when I finish my Mountain Dew and the caffine kicks in. I got 4 hours of sleep last night because I was so excited. This the first time I have ever had anything breed or lay eggs so I'm sure you guys feel my pain and excitement
 
We have some leo eggs. I also suggest vermiculite. It holds good moisture. To keep mold away its better to be too dry than too wet. A pinkie mouse is good for a female but ours usually wont eat one until 3-4days later. I would also wait until about two weeks to candle the egg. I just use a flashlight with the kitchen lights off. If you do it at first you may not be able to tell if it is fertile or not but after two weeks should see atleast a little pink. Geckos lay eggs probably every twos weeks or so depending on when they breed again, ours lay eggs at different week days and what not so Im not positive on how that works. I mist our eggs every other day so they are not too dry. Good luck!
 
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