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Do someone know, who breed this awesome snakes ?

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It is a Sonoran !
 
Yes, this snake is absolutely stunning ! Someone in the states have this !
 
You know, I've seen white-sided Brooks Kingsnakes and Bull Snakes that look like this, too. I think white-sided snakes, like this one, are very nice looking.
 
White -sided Bull

I believe that snake is a White sided Bull snake. And a fine specimen I might add !!!!
Don Soderberg, from South Mountain Reptiles breeds some of those. As well as other breeders in the US.

I hope that helps. Stephen
 
While that snake probably has the genetics of the white-sided line, there looks to be something else at work there too. I have never seen a white-sided with that much high white coloration.
 
I'm shure, that this snake is not a bull !

I don't remember, were i find the picture, but i remember the titel "sonoran gopher ..."
 
thebrandonisgood said:
"Whitesided Sonoran Gopher. Its Colbys animal." Is the response I got from another forum.
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Do you know, who i can get in contact ???
 
sherlogg said:
Do you know, who i can get in contact ???
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It's a Sonoran gopher that a coworker of Colbys collected here in Arizona. Unfortunately it's going to be considered a native wild caught animals and it is unlawful in Arizona to buy/sell or trade native wildlife.
It's really a shame, I wish it would have been found in New Mexico or something! I'd too would like buy a couple for my pit collection.
I have been fortunate enough to see the snake in person and photograph it myself, it's much nicer in person!
 
There have been at least 2 WS Sonorans capptured in the last 5 years. Look into AZ laws a little better. I believe the owner of that snake can GIVE it to someone out of state (NO TRADE, but a bona fide GIFT). The new out-of-state owner, assuming they are in a state that lets them own it legally, can then breed that snake and sell the offspring. OR, I THINK, the current owner CAN breed it and GIVE the babeies to someone out-of-state.

AZ laws aren't that bad, really. They do a good job of preventing the commercialization of native wildlife without preventing people from OWNING such animals. They just can't SELL such animals. After all, this is supposed to be a HOBBY and not a BUSINESS for most of us, right?
KJ
 
I am very aware of Arizona laws. I said it is unlawful to buy/sell/trade native wildlife.
You are correct they can be given away to anyone in any state, and they can breed and sell them. But the person from Arizona cannot profit from it.

You are right Az laws aren't really that bad. Guys from Texas come over here collect some animals and can sell them legally.
 
MRC31 said:
It's a Sonoran gopher that a coworker of Colbys collected here in Arizona.... I have been fortunate enough to see the snake in person and photograph it myself, it's much nicer in person!
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If the snake was collected in Arizona, saying it is a Sonoran gopher is just an educated guess. Considerring that both the gopher and the white-sided bull are found in the area, this could be either one or an intergrade of the two.
 
Sorry. there is no other pituophis found in the state of Arizona other than the Sonoran Gopher and Great Basin gopher. Bullsnakes are several hundred miles to the east.
 
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