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Opinion On Panacur!!

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Ok guys what do we think of panacur? I have a gecko that is eating fine and very active but has loose stool( with some undigested parts in it). Everything in the tank is fine, heat, water, etc. I heard from many that panacur twice a year can help prevent disease greatly. Any ideas? Or what methods are used out there?
 
How is his/her tail looking? Still nice and plump? How long has the gecko had loose stools?
Panacur is pretty safe as far as its usage, but you may want to have a fecal done to rule out other types of parasitic infections that panacur doesn't treat.
 
I have used Panacur on tortoises with no bad effects at all. It seems to be very safe for them. I believe Ron Tremper's new book outlines how to use it on the leopard geckos. :cool:
 
Pat,
Sometimes a new arrival will have loose stool for a few days. The stress causes the animal to have stool that is on the runny side. If it hasn't firmed up or if it looks discolored yellowish/green tint you should get a fecal done. Also, if you are changing them to a different food item they will sometimes display runny stools. The big thing is being able to tell a stress related runny stool from a discolored loose stool that is a warning of an underlying problem. You really need to watch them as the two sometimes are hard to tell apart. Good luck
 
It can most easily be found at any feed store that sells supplies for livestock and horses. It is a paste packaged for use in horses but you can dilute it with water to get a more appropriate concentration.

Panacur is the trade name for fenbendazole.

Roger Klingenberg has an excellent book out, Understanding Reptile Parasites.
It is inexpensive too. I only paid $7 for mine.
 
when the vet gave it to me for my dog, it was in powdered form. I'm guessing that is the best way to use in reptiles.
 
It comes in a paste and would be easier than a powder to use i think .

Just have to make a lower concentration with the horse-paste , it is EXACTLY the same meds.

Some people do use it once or twice a year .

But its better to have fecals to see what it actually is IMO
 
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Panacur treats more parasites than any other wormer out there and is also the safest...however it is getting overused...so try to get a fecal done and make sure there is actually something there to treat. Dan I believe the powder dilutes more easily in water than the paste does...and its much easier to make a smaller amount with. It was also recently approved for over the counter selling...though I haven't seen it anywhere...it might be out there available as easily as the equine paste.
 
coyote said:
Roger Klingenberg has an excellent book out, Understanding Reptile Parasites.
Click to expand...

I also use this and a couple other microbiology books in case I need help distinguishing things through a microscope when I do fecal checks for my animals. That microbiology class & lab came in handy :D!! That's an excellent book which I also purchased for $6.25 on Amazon.com.

I also agree with StinaUIUC - the powder is easier to dilute than the paste IMO.

This thread is an excellent source of information which I just bookmarked :) Thanks for sharing the info & opinions :wavey:
 
The paste is tricky to dilute, I use warm water and mix it really well, it then needs to be used quickly otherwise it will clump back up and settle at the bottom of the cup.
 
Well thats good , I just assumed because powder is sometimes harder to mix in than a liquid (the paste) . :)

To get the right concentration mine was something like 1 g. paste to 10 ml. water , so it mixed real easy.

I had put it in a small glass bottle with the water , stired w/ a toothpick , then would just shake it really well .
 
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Get the liquid float and forget the paste and the powder. Too messy and to easy to make errors. Talk to your vet about getting it in the liquid form.
 
I don't want to sound negative here, but that Klingenberg book and its accompanying chart is worthless if you're trying to learn how to ID parasites. It's a good introduction to parasites and gives you an idea of how they're spread, but that's about it. It doesn't show you that giardia trophozoites have two nuclei whereas the giardia cysts have four nuclei. It doesn't explain to you how vastly different the same species of parasites can appear in various stages of its life cycle. These are stages you have to learn to visually recognize under a microscope if you're going to rely on yourself to do fecal tests. When you consider the abundance of parasites that infect reptiles--parasites expanding across dozens of phyla--there is a lot more to learn than what you can derive from choppy black and white photos.
 
I agree , but thats if your lucky enough to have a vet that will write you a 'script' .

My 'vet' has tried to have me make a $40-50 appointment (which could only further stress the animal) so HE can dose an animal instead of the way ive done it for years . Which is to get a script (if needed) after fecals and give the meds at home . Ok end rant LOL
 
If your vet is more concerned about getting the $$ Dan to do the float I would get a different vet. I had to change vets for the same reason, but once I brought out my new vet to do a general visit and explained that I couldn't possibly take all my geckos to him he was more than happy to provide me with all the extra help I needed. Worth a shot.
 
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