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OukanJordan/Sadisticmuffin/Stephanie Hawkins BADGIRL

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Just wanted to let everybody know I just got scammed by Oukan Jordan aka Sadisticmuffin aka Stephanie Hawkins. I sent her my het clown adult male ball along with female gravid adult and she was supposed to send me a tri/bi-colored hognose. When it showed up it stunk so bad you could smell it through the box.She asked for pictures, when I sent her pictures of the dead snake she told me it was a different snake and she wasn't going to give me anything. Big time rip off! Spread the word!
 
Brian, some more information on this deal would be extremely helpfull.

Where did you meet this person, who initiated the trade? When did the trade take place? Dates and time lines.

Emails to back up your case would be very helpfull, and have you notified her of this thread?
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
Do you have any emails, and or the photos that you sent Stephanie about this animal?

Please post them, and anything else to back up your statements made here please!
Oh ya I have every one of them. I am still trying to figure out how to get it all on here.
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
Do you have any emails, and or the photos that you sent Stephanie about this animal?

Please post them, and anything else to back up your statements made here please!
I tried to put everything on here but I can't figure it out. If you guys/gals could send me your email addresses I could email the info to you.
 
lucille said:
Brian, did you ship your snakes USPS?
No, I definitely did not. I shipped them Fed-Ex. In my emails she clearly states that she got them and they looked wonderful. I would never ship USPS. I even have the credit card receipt and the receipt with her user name or whatever her name is "Oukan Jordan" on it. I still have the tracking info also. At this point I am almost positive that she clearly ripped me off or else she wouldn't have said I shipped them USPS. I am the only one who is out anything. She was willing to give me her other snakes until she found out Fed-Ex wasn't going to reimburse her for the tri/bi-colored hog. She is greedy! Who knows maybe she did get reimbursed for the tri/bi-colored and is coming out on top of everything!
 
hum707 said:
No, I definitely did not. I shipped them Fed-Ex. In my emails she clearly states that she got them and they looked wonderful. I would never ship USPS. I even have the credit card receipt and the receipt with her user name or whatever her name is "Oukan Jordan" on it. I still have the tracking info also. At this point I am almost positive that she clearly ripped me off or else she wouldn't have said I shipped them USPS. I am the only one who is out anything. She was willing to give me her other snakes until she found out Fed-Ex wasn't going to reimburse her for the tri/bi-colored hog. She is greedy! Who knows maybe she did get reimbursed for the tri/bi-colored and is coming out on top of everything!

Please post the tracking number.
 
To post photos in a thread, you must first upload them, Be it either your own hosting service, or a free one like www.photobucket.com

Once uploaded you can use the BBC Forum code that they give you under the image. Or you can Right click the image, click "view image in a new window" and copy the URL that is in that new window.

Then type in the following MINUS the *'s. [*IMG*] Paste the URL here [*/IMG*]
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
To post photos in a thread, you must first upload them, Be it either your own hosting service, or a free one like www.photobucket.com

Once uploaded you can use the BBC Forum code that they give you under the image. Or you can Right click the image, click "view image in a new window" and copy the URL that is in that new window.

Then type in the following MINUS the *'s. [*IMG*] Paste the URL here [*/IMG*]
Thanks I have to go to work now, but I will try to figure it out before I go!
 
This is what she posted on the other site.
if this was your plan in the begining then I could have done the same thing. If I planned on scamming someone I could easily get a receipt as well. All you have to do is go to Fedex, tell them your shipping something, wait for them to print a receipt and then say you changed your mind. Ta da you have a receipt and havent shipped a thing yet.

The tracking number shows it was delivered on the 18th. Her explanation doesn't hold water. Unless, she wants to suggest that you also sent another package from California to Tennessee on the same day. If she does you can post a screen shot of your Fed Ex Manager showing the address it was delivered to. If it comes to that, make sure you block out your account number on any screenshots.

Stephanie, it appears that he did ship FedEx not USPS as you stated. I hope you will address this.

The reason it is important to the whole transaction is that he is claiming you sent a dead animal. You are claiming he sent pictures of another snake and yours may very well be alive. All we have to go on is what you two state. If you lie about the shipping method he used, Well, then most would probably find your position less believable.
 
Dennis Hultman said:
The reason it is important to the whole transaction is that he is claiming you sent a dead animal. You are claiming he sent pictures of another snake and yours may very well be alive. All we have to go on is what you two state. If you lie about the shipping method he used, Well, then most would probably find your position less believable.


There are images in the thread i linked to as well Dennis. I have to run to work, but i have them saved. if anyone else wants to save them and link, the animal is pictured over there. ( or at least AN animal, whether it is the one or not?) From looking at the pics, it looks like it could have gone into shed, and why it might be so dark. as a sidenote.
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
There are images in the thread i linked to as well Dennis. I have to run to work, but i have them saved. if anyone else wants to save them and link, the animal is pictured over there. ( or at least AN animal, whether it is the one or not?) From looking at the pics, it looks like it could have gone into shed, and why it might be so dark. as a sidenote.
That is exactly the case. I am going to try to peel the skin off of its head so you can see the pattern better. Plus the white band count is 8 triads on both snakes. Gotta go, but will post later. I will get the pictures after I peel the skin off of its head. Thanks everyone
 
I just read the thread at RTB and my problem is this...

If this girl is so bent on proving that Brian shipped via USPS, then why doesnt she post a picture of the shipping label/box as proof? Every box that is sent via priority has that unmistakable USPS Priority label on it..

oh wait.. she wont come here because she doesnt have any friends.... silly me..
 
nora said:
I just read the thread at RTB and my problem is this...

If this girl is so bent on proving that Brian shipped via USPS, then why doesnt she post a picture of the shipping label/box as proof? Every box that is sent via priority has that unmistakable USPS Priority label on it..

oh wait.. she wont come here because she doesnt have any friends.... silly me..
Right on sister!! Thanks a bunch! I appreciate everybody's help! Now I really have to go before I get fired. Later
 
nora said:
she wont come here because she doesnt have any friends.... silly me..

Why would having friends here have anything to do with it? If she is right, the evidence will show it. If she is wrong, it doesn't matter if she has friends here or not.
 
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