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Hey everyone, i have a 67 gallon paludarium (36Hx24Lx18D) and i have fire bellly toads and a couple of danios. I was wondering what else i can put in there.


Like there are snakes

-garter snake
-corn snake
-amazon tree boa

Anyways y'all get the point

If u would have recommendations for other animals it would be highly appreciated
 
If it were me, I'd be going for a semi aquatic tank so I could add fish. Then I'd fill it out with some exotic plants, and maybe if I felt like it I'd add some salamanders. A tiger sal could be cool
 
I suspect that your cohabitation plan with a number of animals with divergent husbandry requirements will not end well for you. Or them.
 
You might want to take a look at some geckos- something too big for the toads to eat, but too small to eat the toads. House geckos, perhaps.
 
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Even if they live in different niches?
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I think you will find it difficult to maintain separate and distinctly defined niches in such a small area. How would you control something like humidity into separate sharply defined areas? You can spot control temperatures with under-tank heating, but how about air temperature?

I hope you don't intend to feed all those animals together in that one cage. Triggering a feed response with multiple different types of animals all together in a confined space may turn ugly on you.

Just my opinion, but although what you likely have in your mind probably seems like a really cool idea, in practice I think you are setting yourself up for headaches and disappointments.

Perhaps trying to find animals that at least have similar environmental constraints might have a better chance of being successful for you. But you are still going to run into the problem that herps don't tend to be communal animals in normal and continuous circumstances. They are not exactly "sharing" kinds of animals. And snake CAN eat another snake, and sometimes will. Lord knows I have enough instances of baby corn snakes eating each other over the years. No it is not common, but it DOES happen.

I do hate to be throwing a rainstorm on your parade, though. But I think you really need to give this more thought.
 
It is not very expensive to find a really nice snake cage second hand, or to build your own. Or save a little and buy a beautiful new one.
I think it isn't really that you necessarily want to put more stuff in your paludarium (I bet it is beautiful), it may be you are taking another step toward being a bona fide reptile enthusiast.
 
Webslave, do you have any examples of lizards that can potentially live with fbt?

And also my dad won't let me get any snakes :(
Will blue head tree dragons or mountain horned dragons work?
 
Webslave, do you have any examples of good tankmates for fire belly toads?
Also my dad doesn't allow me to have snake :(

Would tree dragons or mountain dragons work?
 
Sorry, but after a rather unpleasant experience as a young child myself trying to do exactly what you are considering doing, I ceased being a supporter of the idea of forcing multi-species of any animals together into one enclosure, unless you are talking about a VERY large one. Like the size of a bedroom or so. Lots of animals get stressed out even being with more members of their own species, so you have to keep a lot of visual blocks in the cage so they can feel like they are at least out of sight of a "stranger". And lots of reptiles and amphibians will happily eat anything else that they can overpower and shove down their throats.

If you stick with amphibians and maybe pick something more arboreal than your fire bellied toads, that might work out for you. But make sure that the sizes of all the inhabitants are roughly the same. Otherwise the smallest will likely mysteriously vanish one day, and the larger ones will look particularly fat and happy.

I believe the idea you are hoping for would be to come up with something visual pleasing and safe for all of the inhabitants. Having a bunch of animals in a small enclosure where you can't see any of them because all of the inhabitants are afraid of everything else that is not them, would not be much fun for you. The idea you are probably envisioning certainly seems appealing, but the reality of getting what you want will not be easy, maybe even not possible.

Bear in mind, too, that the more complicated you make an enclosure, the more difficult it will be to clean regularly. So you will quickly tire of the responsibility and work load, which will eventually produce a very unpleasant living environment for your captives. You will wind up putting off that cleaning longer and longer each time as you tire of the constant regimen you got yourself into. Warm and damp environments are very difficult to keep fungus and molds from overtaking it. Animals pass waste materials that easily produce fungus, not to mention any number of pathogens that other species might be more susceptible to than the original hosts.

Unless you have a lot of experience under your belt taking care of relatively fragile animals, I suggest that you start off small and simple and make things easier on yourself in your learning curve. Opening up a cage to find dead animals in your care will most certainly ruin your day and leave a lasting impression. As I indicated, if you are new at this, I would hate for your first experience into this stuff to shatter your developing interest. And nothing kills budding enthusiasm better than killing your pets by making a mistake in judgment.

Good luck!
 
Thank you!! I'll probably just stay with my fbt and get another tank in the near future
 
Umm... i keep hearing my frogs at nice doing weird noises and today i saw them in their mating position several times! Will the female lay eggs?When will she lay them?

Also i wanted to know if they lay, how many tadpoles by gallon
 
Thanks for the link! But how do you create a new post and not answer someone?
I'm new so help is appreciated
 
vasss said:
Thanks for the link! But how do you create a new post and not answer someone?
I'm new so help is appreciated
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Go to the forum you are interested in, and look top left above the list of threads in that forum. There's a button that says "New thread".

Hope you get the help you want! :)
 
vasss said:
Thanks for the link! But how do you create a new post and not answer someone?
I'm new so help is appreciated
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You created a new thread here with this current one we are conversing in. The process in another forum will be the same.
 
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