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Kairo said:
:shootfoot

What???? Well using a service for something against their policy is illegal now isn't it?
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No, it's not illegal. You're attempting to play semantics here and it's failing miserably. Illegal implies against the law. That was the manner in which you used it.

As for your Cobra analogy, it's not relevant. Shipping practices and venomous animals are two separate issues. Play semantics all you want but it's not flying.

Kairo said:
I'm gone.
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About time.

Griz
 
Kairo said:
It will happen perhaps, states today (as we see in the news) are not too happy about snake ownership.
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Because of individuals like you. Responsible ownership equates to intelligent ownership of which you are obviously lacking. Understanding the limitations of your intelligence will go a long way in ensuring that you're not part of the problem. As of today, you ARE the problem.

Griz
 
Fedex is the better bet. They don't ask, they simply ship. Well sometimes.
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Pamela, unless you're FedEx Certified, to use your logic, it is "illegal" to ship reptiles with them also. Maybe you would get sued!! I doubt the fact that they "didn't ask" would stop them from suing you because their policy is well stated. You know what, if UPS doesn't ask you can use them too. But don't forget it is "illegal".

[SIZE=5[SIZE=1]]For everyone else I know it is not illegal to ship with either carrier.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
 
Wilomn said:
Rich we need 2 more warings. One for absolute stupidity repeated applied and another for totally insane.

You could call them Kairo 1 and Kairo 2.
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Being a moderator says you can call names and get no points right????

Wow big accomplishment in the world.

Give your ass 30 points for being what you are playing...GOD.

"look at me, i can piss her off and get no points because i'm a moderator"!!!!!!
I'm like GOD!

:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

Got what i wanted here now.....moderators can hassle and get no points...great system!!!!! :D
 
Yea yea banned or a gazzilion points...OKAYYYYY!
 
Pamela,

The next comment like that will no doubt earn you a 3 day suspension. Care to test that theory out?
 
Kairo said:
Being a moderator says you can call names and get no points right????

Wow big accomplishment in the world.

Give your ass 30 points for being what you are playing...GOD.

"look at me, i can piss her off and get no points because i'm a moderator"!!!!!!
I'm like GOD!

:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

Got what i wanted here now.....moderators can hassle and get no points...great system!!!!! :D
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Actually pam we are held to the same standard if not higher for moderating this sight. If "I" as a mod step out of line, I will receive warning points as any other member would. May I suggest that you just stop posting if you want to stay out of trouble.
 
Laura Fopiano said:
May I suggest that you just stop posting if you want to stay out of trouble.
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LOL....I don't think she WANTS to stay out of trouble. She keeps dancing a jig about getting herself banned, as if that will prove something....or something? :rolleyes:

:rofl:
 
Kairo said:
No i'm not. IF you ship a snake through UPS (forget USPS they suck) and something goes wrong and there is a snake in that box (UPS reserves the right to open boxes to btw!) you think that you can not get sued?

It is up to EVERY person shipping to know the laws of who ships what, so you knwoing UPS does NOT ship snakes and you use them, is that illegal if you get caught (hm busted) and they go after you?

It's ILLEGAL to use them if it's against their policy to not ship snakes.

LIke i said many don't ask, many don't care. It only takes once for a mishap and yea...you're on your way don't the illegal shipping road!!!

Don't tell me UPS can't sue! Don't tell me it's not illegal to use a service who does not accept what you give them to send, and they have no clue what it is! This is not just a matter of it's wrong, it certainly can make it illegal.

Illegal: In violation of! Not authorized by!

I got off the phone yesterday with Corporate yet again to clear this up for myself, i HATE UPS around here anyway...but, yes it's illegal, because they don't accept snakes. And you knowing this NOW are not in according with policy!!!! Don't wait for a mishap. Also maybe in hicksville it does not matter, but here in Florida we are getting alot of heat us snake owners, so why chance it...

Oh and yet again....Corporate said it was a federal law to do so.

Dah...figure it out yourself. Use Fedex, it may cost more for many, but they don't care (well some stations will except snakes around here)
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They could sue you on what grounds? Big difference between illegal and against company policy. At most the charges would fall under the " Lacey Act " for not properly marking the box. Still doesn't mean shipping the snake was illegal. The shipping company can close your account and refuse to reopen it but suing would most likely get laughed out of court.
 
Private Investigator Hired To Find Ray Torres

Ok after spending some money. I found Mr. Torres. He recently married Christine Fletcher which is and has been co-owner of his many companies he has used and changed over the years to rip people off.

I also filed a complaint with Florida Fish and Wildlife to investigate licencing issues.

He just recently build a new home that cost some serious bucks in a very remote location in Sarasota County. So he will be permantly at that address for some time.

For all the members that have wanted to track this guy and his buisness down and could not locate him here is what you and I have been looking for. I have drove by his house and seen the vehicles he used to bring me my snakes. So I know for sure its him.

address is:

1575 whirl ct
north port, florida
34288

I will do everything I can to put a cap on his buisness.
 
lisamietz said:
Ok after spending some money. I found Mr. Torres. He recently married Christine Fletcher which is and has been co-owner of his many companies he has used and changed over the years to rip people off.

I also filed a complaint with Florida Fish and Wildlife to investigate licencing issues.

He just recently build a new home that cost some serious bucks in a very remote location in Sarasota County. So he will be permantly at that address for some time.

For all the members that have wanted to track this guy and his buisness down and could not locate him here is what you and I have been looking for. I have drove by his house and seen the vehicles he used to bring me my snakes. So I know for sure its him.

address is:

1575 whirl ct
north port, florida
34288

I will do everything I can to put a cap on his buisness.
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Have you found out if he has a business licence yet? Seeing as he's using the title B.A.R.C. reptiles inc. and he's in florida he should be pretty easy to find if he's running a real corporation. I haven't found anything about this business to say it's real, but i only searched for it in florida.

Also, i didn't search that many sites either. I went onto multimap and found the address also. It "looked" like a residential area but it's not really clear enough to say if it definately is or not.
 
Its definately a house. its in a remote location of the area very hard to find. when i drove by he was even sitting outside the back yard with his dog and saw me heh. I wont comfront the guy on a one on one basis. I just wanted to be sure it was indeed his house.

Also he does not have a buisness, occupational, or any other license to sell reps according to florida state buisness records.
 
lisamietz said:
Its definately a house. its in a remote location of the area very hard to find. when i drove by he was even sitting outside the back yard with his dog and saw me heh. I wont comfront the guy on a one on one basis. I just wanted to be sure it was indeed his house.

Also he does not have a buisness, occupational, or any other license to sell reps according to florida state buisness records.
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I didn't think the business was real. Which address did you check?
 
Wow the moon wanes and she's gone again.. What is it with full moons that brings these yo yo's out like that.... Randy
 
lisamietz said:
Ok after spending some money. I found Mr. Torres. He recently married Christine Fletcher which is and has been co-owner of his many companies he has used and changed over the years to rip people off.

I also filed a complaint with Florida Fish and Wildlife to investigate licencing issues.

He just recently build a new home that cost some serious bucks in a very remote location in Sarasota County. So he will be permantly at that address for some time.

For all the members that have wanted to track this guy and his buisness down and could not locate him here is what you and I have been looking for. I have drove by his house and seen the vehicles he used to bring me my snakes. So I know for sure its him.

address is:

1575 whirl ct
north port, florida
34288

I will do everything I can to put a cap on his buisness.
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hmm... based on the cell phone number, I googled and found a few fairly recent ads where they are giving their location as being Rotonda West, FL.
 
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