My first and last response to this thread
This will be my frist and my last posting to this thread.
#1 Ray is the only person in the industry right now to have a problem such as this, if anyone else has any bounced checks / other problems , please post them here.
#2 Jeff Holmes -- You speak like your perfect, remember that little order you tried to place but couldn't pay for?
#3 This would not be happening right now if it were not for right now me having over $16,000 in debt that I am trying to collect from people in this industry. Some of your biggest arachnid wholesalers are in debt to me for $1000's....I recently took a large bad check from a very popular and large wholesaler in California....for $1760.00....that was COD too....Ray and Ricky know who this is I told them....I am not going to post names on here as that will create a much more detrimentel affect on me ever getting my money.
#4 I will pay Ray and Ricky, when I get some money...right now I am trying to put together this months rent and get out of my store....btw those checks should not have bounced on their accounts...those were not intentional...I had placed and order with my german supplier and he accidently charged the card twice becasue his CC machine was out of paper but he didn't know it, so he thought the charge didn't go through so he did it tiwce, it put my account $700 negative...if any of you business actually even have merchant accounts you will know a credit from a company in a different country takes 4-6 weeks to return..and I was using a debit card....so in all actuality I did not purposely boucne those checks on them and that can be proven by my statment...which can be faxed to anyone that would like to request it.
#5 For the record Ray and Ricky are good people, I unfortunately however at this point can not afford to help them with their checks as they have requested...I will hopefully be able to help them better in the near future however.
#6 My status as a minor -- Yes I am a minor, was I authorized to write those checks yes...will I make good on these checks yes...am I a bad guy, no I am not a bad guy and that will be proven by me paying off the debt to Ray and Ricky...Ricky, I am aware you have already contacted my parents, just so you know the ball is in my park not theirs, and they understand that, I just hope you understand that...keep calling, you won't get a return call from them....if you need something call me at 401-230-0094 or on my business lines 401-490-2116 and 490-2115.
#7 TJ Lusk -- OK TJ, so you want to play games...lets get into your story a little, after your little rant on arachnoboards that I let go...TJ lusk is a young kid himself just so everyone here knows. he has attempted to place 100's of orders with me and I have pd full attention to them and he has never sent payment or anything. The last deal that he tried for me to conduct while I was in Daytona he called every 5 minutes changing his order around and such then wanted it to go COD, then wanting everything to be female, and everything to be this that and the other thing, and how big are they, and how do you take care of them, I don't mean like simple typical questions, I mean hard-core repettive questions....so honestly when he called I began to just yes sir him....as I lost interest in doing business with im as I knew it would be much more of a hastle than a profitable deal, oh and also he beats you up on prices like no one I know. I lost complete interest in doing business with him...as I knew it would be more headaches than anything. I probably would have sent him a 4" cobalt blue instead of a 5" one and all hell would break loose....Bottom line TJ, stop complalining, you weren't ripped off, you were brushed off....sorry man....but you have been making a stink border line claiming to have been ripped off, you have had no monetary losses from any of our 'dealings'.
**So here is the bottom line...I owe very few people money, typically a couple hundred here and there, and I owe one other supplier $1300 not a bounced check though, and realistically he is getting paid next week...otherwise im sure you'll be seeing him up here. Ricky and Ray are good people that will be paid, it is very unfortuanate that the transaction went the way it did. Ask them, did I not complete dozens of deals with your company, successful deals pd in full by check dozens of times before this incidence....unfortunate as it is, it was a mistake and it will be fixed. As Michael Jacobi said early on in this thread, Pat has always fixed my problems and compensated.....basically you will be paid plus interest, I just can't do it right now...thats the risk you take in business.....I have taken the risk and lost the majority of time wether it be petshops in TN, or large reptile wholesalers...heres something crazy that I just found out about....on of the larger invertebrate companies in CA, owes me $1890.00, then, I found out months ago he was using his mom's credit card for purchasing stock when he had already ran up that debt and needed inventory, she put a stop payment on the credit card payment and I just had another $1300 taken out of my account....I mean this is how rediculous this industry is....OR how about a month ago I placed an order with a reptile wholesaler in Miami for just about $500.00 , the order came in almost 90% dead....I called and left a message, I called back two days later and reported the doa's again, the owner denied recieving the message and denied credit because more than 24 hours had passed...he said 'Go ahead put a stop payment on it, my terms are ready to be sent to the cc company'. Here's another instance....how about three weeks ago I sent an Invertebrate company in the Midwest an order for about $300 worth, he was supposed to pay after a trade show, well I owed someone attending the show some centipedes so I had him give him 5 centipedes, the owner charged me $30 a centipede off of the bill (very high price for the centipedes), so he still owed me $150, he was supposed to send that to a friend of mine I owe a few hundred too (one of the people I spoke of before), he never did, he lied or said the check came back to him weeks later... about sending out a check so I sent him another order, $450 worth this time....so now he owes me close to $600.00 and Tony my friend has recieved nothing...so here I am again in this postion, he calls me, asks me to send him more inventory but promises he'll pay the balance off as soon as he gets the order, I told him I would do it reluctantly and I explained my financial position, and he seemed to understand the urgent need for the $$...I later decided I can't send the order to him, in which case he got very upset and told me to screw and that, he'll write the check to me when he gets to it, he doesn't 'feel' like sending it out right now...
I mean guys, this is what I go through on a daily basis, as I stated this is the last post I will make to this thread, I cannnot involve myself in this kind of BS, as it will only make things worse for myself....please understand that I have a considerably less debt outstanding to people than what people have outstanding to me, so that means I did something right....
Anyway, Ricky and Ray, I AM VERY SORRY, for what is going on....and it will be recitified as soon as I am financially able to do so.....
Pat Kane
Kane Zoological
401-230-0094
401-490-2115
[email protected]
This will be my frist and my last posting to this thread.
#1 Ray is the only person in the industry right now to have a problem such as this, if anyone else has any bounced checks / other problems , please post them here.
#2 Jeff Holmes -- You speak like your perfect, remember that little order you tried to place but couldn't pay for?
#3 This would not be happening right now if it were not for right now me having over $16,000 in debt that I am trying to collect from people in this industry. Some of your biggest arachnid wholesalers are in debt to me for $1000's....I recently took a large bad check from a very popular and large wholesaler in California....for $1760.00....that was COD too....Ray and Ricky know who this is I told them....I am not going to post names on here as that will create a much more detrimentel affect on me ever getting my money.
#4 I will pay Ray and Ricky, when I get some money...right now I am trying to put together this months rent and get out of my store....btw those checks should not have bounced on their accounts...those were not intentional...I had placed and order with my german supplier and he accidently charged the card twice becasue his CC machine was out of paper but he didn't know it, so he thought the charge didn't go through so he did it tiwce, it put my account $700 negative...if any of you business actually even have merchant accounts you will know a credit from a company in a different country takes 4-6 weeks to return..and I was using a debit card....so in all actuality I did not purposely boucne those checks on them and that can be proven by my statment...which can be faxed to anyone that would like to request it.
#5 For the record Ray and Ricky are good people, I unfortunately however at this point can not afford to help them with their checks as they have requested...I will hopefully be able to help them better in the near future however.
#6 My status as a minor -- Yes I am a minor, was I authorized to write those checks yes...will I make good on these checks yes...am I a bad guy, no I am not a bad guy and that will be proven by me paying off the debt to Ray and Ricky...Ricky, I am aware you have already contacted my parents, just so you know the ball is in my park not theirs, and they understand that, I just hope you understand that...keep calling, you won't get a return call from them....if you need something call me at 401-230-0094 or on my business lines 401-490-2116 and 490-2115.
#7 TJ Lusk -- OK TJ, so you want to play games...lets get into your story a little, after your little rant on arachnoboards that I let go...TJ lusk is a young kid himself just so everyone here knows. he has attempted to place 100's of orders with me and I have pd full attention to them and he has never sent payment or anything. The last deal that he tried for me to conduct while I was in Daytona he called every 5 minutes changing his order around and such then wanted it to go COD, then wanting everything to be female, and everything to be this that and the other thing, and how big are they, and how do you take care of them, I don't mean like simple typical questions, I mean hard-core repettive questions....so honestly when he called I began to just yes sir him....as I lost interest in doing business with im as I knew it would be much more of a hastle than a profitable deal, oh and also he beats you up on prices like no one I know. I lost complete interest in doing business with him...as I knew it would be more headaches than anything. I probably would have sent him a 4" cobalt blue instead of a 5" one and all hell would break loose....Bottom line TJ, stop complalining, you weren't ripped off, you were brushed off....sorry man....but you have been making a stink border line claiming to have been ripped off, you have had no monetary losses from any of our 'dealings'.
**So here is the bottom line...I owe very few people money, typically a couple hundred here and there, and I owe one other supplier $1300 not a bounced check though, and realistically he is getting paid next week...otherwise im sure you'll be seeing him up here. Ricky and Ray are good people that will be paid, it is very unfortuanate that the transaction went the way it did. Ask them, did I not complete dozens of deals with your company, successful deals pd in full by check dozens of times before this incidence....unfortunate as it is, it was a mistake and it will be fixed. As Michael Jacobi said early on in this thread, Pat has always fixed my problems and compensated.....basically you will be paid plus interest, I just can't do it right now...thats the risk you take in business.....I have taken the risk and lost the majority of time wether it be petshops in TN, or large reptile wholesalers...heres something crazy that I just found out about....on of the larger invertebrate companies in CA, owes me $1890.00, then, I found out months ago he was using his mom's credit card for purchasing stock when he had already ran up that debt and needed inventory, she put a stop payment on the credit card payment and I just had another $1300 taken out of my account....I mean this is how rediculous this industry is....OR how about a month ago I placed an order with a reptile wholesaler in Miami for just about $500.00 , the order came in almost 90% dead....I called and left a message, I called back two days later and reported the doa's again, the owner denied recieving the message and denied credit because more than 24 hours had passed...he said 'Go ahead put a stop payment on it, my terms are ready to be sent to the cc company'. Here's another instance....how about three weeks ago I sent an Invertebrate company in the Midwest an order for about $300 worth, he was supposed to pay after a trade show, well I owed someone attending the show some centipedes so I had him give him 5 centipedes, the owner charged me $30 a centipede off of the bill (very high price for the centipedes), so he still owed me $150, he was supposed to send that to a friend of mine I owe a few hundred too (one of the people I spoke of before), he never did, he lied or said the check came back to him weeks later... about sending out a check so I sent him another order, $450 worth this time....so now he owes me close to $600.00 and Tony my friend has recieved nothing...so here I am again in this postion, he calls me, asks me to send him more inventory but promises he'll pay the balance off as soon as he gets the order, I told him I would do it reluctantly and I explained my financial position, and he seemed to understand the urgent need for the $$...I later decided I can't send the order to him, in which case he got very upset and told me to screw and that, he'll write the check to me when he gets to it, he doesn't 'feel' like sending it out right now...
I mean guys, this is what I go through on a daily basis, as I stated this is the last post I will make to this thread, I cannnot involve myself in this kind of BS, as it will only make things worse for myself....please understand that I have a considerably less debt outstanding to people than what people have outstanding to me, so that means I did something right....
Anyway, Ricky and Ray, I AM VERY SORRY, for what is going on....and it will be recitified as soon as I am financially able to do so.....
Pat Kane
Kane Zoological
401-230-0094
401-490-2115
[email protected]