Pat Kane of Kane Zoological ... BAD GUY TO DO BUSINESS WITH!!!

[DThomas]

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[Chuck T]

Pat kane's new personna

I would be very suspisous as to anyone sending anything to Rhoad Island, not to say he couldn't have an acomplice either and could be anyone at anytime anywhere, that's the beauty of mail fraud over the internet you never have to prove your identity.The whole selling and trading thing is based on honesty and trust in your fellow man(total strangers)which the majority are,however with people like Pat Kane or what ever he wants to call himself will envoke a fear in people and then people will become leery of selling and/or trading via the mail and internet all together.So keep up the good work PAT maybe you'll have the whole internet mail selling and trading business thing ruined by the time you are 25.

 

[nicolai]

read if you were ripped off.

Any one that lost money to Pat kane/chris zorra/mike mcnutty or which ever name he used please go to the website below and email the detective division with your info.

We are going to get this guy on mail fraud(felony) even if he is under age the detective said he will be prosicuted as a adult (2-10 years),internet fraud ( felony 1-3 years),theft by deception (1st class misdemeanor),as well as federal charges for interstate
commerce fraud.

WE ARE GOING TO GET HIM FINALLY!!!!!!

NICK BONN

http://www.providencepolice.com/e_mail_page.html

 

[kellygirl]

Did anything ever come of this? I never got my $500 back.

-Kelly

 

[reptilia2000]

Nothing has happened. How did you get your money back?

 

[reptilia2000]

Sorry miss read your message...I thought it said you got your money back. No we still haven't gotten our $2,000 back either.

 

[monantony]

He uses "kanepatkane" on AIM, i suggest people IM him... He IM's me from time to time with some general BS about 'how are you' yada yada...'You deserve to get your money back, yada yada'. Then he sends me a link to pics of him in vegas with a WAD of $100's, and how he has some cash to send me . hahahahahahha. He also dropped into the chat that night to aggravate people.
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I would also post his parents # here, but I figure it'd get deleted pronto

 

[monantony]

Here's an old webstie
http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/frightsinverts/

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interesting read, no?

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

He uses "kanepatkane" on AIM, i suggest people IM him... He IM's me from time to time with some general BS about 'how are you' yada yada...'You deserve to get your money back, yada yada'. Then he sends me a link to pics of him in vegas with a WAD of $100's, and how he has some cash to send me . hahahahahahha. He also dropped into the chat that night to aggravate people.
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I would also post his parents # here, but I figure it'd get deleted pronto

If you have a pic of this world class piece of crap by all means post it. It would be wonderful to be able to identify him on sight if the weasel ever has the nerve to show up at a show

 

[Gecko_Den]

Here's an old webstie
http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/frightsinverts/

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interesting read, no?

I'm surprised to see that Regal Reptiles would associate with a known crook and scammer.

 

[nicolai]

Just a heads up. I was at the White palins show two weeks ago when a young man was there was taking close ups of a lot of reptiles in thier enclosures there. I didnt think much of it until another gentlman that saw him and recognized him and said he used to work at a pet shop he visited and had ripped off a lot of people, at which time the kid (18-19 yrs old) exited. when i asked the gentle men who he was he said Pat kane. Then I remembered the whole Kane zooalogical episode. I dont know for a fact that he isnt trying to go legitamite or anything, but if he is taking pics of other peoples animals at a show he is probably up to no good again, but that is just speculation on my part. No facts to prove it one way or another.
I had also heard that he was in a recebt car accident and is suing people for a lot of money for his injuries. that to is unverified. This post is just a heads up in light of what else is going on now we dont need another "bad guy" jumping in and taking more people.

 

[nicolai]

P.S. I see has has been visiting fauna again this year. there must be a reason.

 

[Fedawg]

Hmmm . I went to High School with Pat kane , he is a year younger than me. I remember a few years back he had a bunch of problems , but i thought he was out of the biz now.

He lives in the same small town as i do , so im sure ill see him around.

 

[nicolai]

If you see him there are a lot of people that never got thier money from him!!!

 

[Fedawg]

If you see him there are a lot of people that never got thier money from him!!!

I think ive been through this thread before , but how much money are we talking????

I had thought this was all resolved......

 

[nicolai]

Here is a thread from elsewhere that i was directed to:

kanezoological03-14-2006, 12:31 PM
Well at the time that these alleged scams occured that supposudly involved me happened, I was 15 or 16 years old, it's been a couple of years since...I guess you know the saying, "time fly's when your having fun".

As far as people claiming I am a scammer, I don't know where this could come from people say my IP address was used to make the posts on the website, it was in a public storefront many people had access to the computer. Also no one can tie any financial records to me, cashed checks, money orders, etc. None of which lead directly to me. Also many people do not realize this it is not illegal to use an Alias.

As far as me ever getting back into the trade again, who knows what lies ahead in the future. Industries and the people in them do change, I can not lie and say I do not miss the invertebrate business, I still to this day know 100's of species of tarantulas through and through, I still remember all the importers/exporters and customers of mine's phone numbers. It is a terrible waste of a vast amount of knowledge and I can not imagine that I will not put it back to use at some point in my life. As of now, I once again own my own business, a small marketing company, of which I will not disclose the specifics as I do not want to be flooded with telephone calls all day at my office.

There are things that no one will ever understand about what happened at the end of Kane Zoological. There are several reasons that Kane Zoological, went down, some including lifestyle habits, some included a break-in which is documented by the East Providence, RI, police department, and is documented with over $7500 in items being stolen, as well as my accounting records that were in one of the computers that were stolen. However the main influence on the failure of Kane Zoological's business plan was that many dealers ganged up on me, decided to do business with me, order large shipments from me pay for the first few shipments, and then place much larger orders and never pay. Dealers don't pay up front, they pay after they recieve goods, usually on a 30 / 60 day net even. there's over $35,000 owed to me in the invertebrate trade, far more than anyone ever lost at the end of Kane Zoological. That is the reason why I am so bitter and refuse give back to a business that did nothing but from square one try and eradicate me from the trade. I urge those who weren't involved in the trade many years ago to ask people who were, they will explain to you that I was not always a ''bad guy'', in fact I was the only dealer in the business that went in and simply doubled my price on whatever I had (say I bought T.blondi slings for $15.00, I sold them for $30 / $35), dealers in the trade did not like that because they are used to charging 4 times sometimes 5 times what they pay for inventory (ex. same $15.00 T.blondi , they would sell for $60/$65/$70). That's an absurd mark-up, so yes was what happened around the end of Kane Zoological terrible, yes very much so, but I don't think everyone's beloved US dealers are all that much better than me. They just do it in a way that is so widely praticed that it has become accepted as industry standard.

I know everyone won't understand, or accept the above message, however I felt it was necessary to say. What happened to everyone is a terrible thing, really is, however I am still bitter at the entire industry for what they did to me.

Sincerely, Take care of yourselves, and I feel terrible that so many nice people such as yourselves were involved in what seems to be the worst heist in the invertebrate trade ever.

-Pat Kane.

 

[darkbloodwyvern]

sad story...

Even if it is true, he still doesn't have any right to rip off people just because some other dealers decided to take him down. The dealers failed him, he cannot justify taking it out on others that seem to be unrelated to his bankruptcy.
I also have a difficult time imagining this situation actually happening although i suppose it is possible. However, it sounds like a good way of completely absolving himself of blame. Plenty of bad things happen to other breeders and dealers, we see people getting animal worth thousands of dollars being stolen, and they probably suffer from fierce competition, yet those we consider good guys don't seem to feel a need to lash out at those they trade or deal with.
He still owes it to those who are not already owing him money to repay them or give them what they sent him or bought from him.