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Bad Guy pat kline (Luxurious leopards)

Show Me said:
At the very least I think he should give you a extended health guarantee on the geckos and you should get the free granite he promised shipped to you at his cost.
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Do you honestly think his geckos are sick? It has even been said that they are not on deaths door. I am sure that he would give an extended health guarantee on his geckos too.

But having to pay shipping on an animal that costs X amount of dollars (i am not familiar with granite AFT) that was offered to prevent his animals from being killed with the high temps is pretty ridiculous.

I honestly think he should give Jeremy the following options for the LAST time:

1. you can have a credit greater the $50 (whatever amount you guys agree on)

2. you can have the granite but you (Jeremy) pays the shipping cost

3. or since Jeremy is saying he doesnt want anymore animals then he just accepts he is not going to be satisfied and enjoys what he has.

IMO if I had somebody doing this to me while I was trying to make my customer as happy as possible then I would not feel like sending another animal to a person who is simply acting ungrateful.

I truly hope that you guys can come to an agreement on this. It would just be best for both parties. Good luck to both of you in the upcoming years of breeding! :)
 
maggie22195 said:
Do you honestly think his geckos are sick? It has even been said that they are not on deaths door. I am sure that he would give an extended health guarantee on his geckos too.

But having to pay shipping on an animal that costs X amount of dollars (i am not familiar with granite AFT) that was offered to prevent his animals from being killed with the high temps is pretty ridiculous.

I honestly think he should give Jeremy the following options for the LAST time:

1. you can have a credit greater the $50 (whatever amount you guys agree on)

2. you can have the granite but you (Jeremy) pays the shipping cost

3. or since Jeremy is saying he doesnt want anymore animals then he just accepts he is not going to be satisfied and enjoys what he has.

IMO if I had somebody doing this to me while I was trying to make my customer as happy as possible then I would not feel like sending another animal to a person who is simply acting ungrateful.

I truly hope that you guys can come to an agreement on this. It would just be best for both parties. Good luck to both of you in the upcoming years of breeding! :)
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No I didn't say they were sick, I'm not a gecko expert so I don't know how their health is. I just think if the guy is worried about them then why not give him a extended guarantee? I would but hey that's just me. :shrug01:
 
We have extended health gurantees on every gecko we sell/trade. We stand behind our animals 100%
 
I think those geckos are quite pretty! Remind me a little of a couple of my own I had a long time ago. Those tails are not awfully thin. Also need to take into consideration that they wouldn't have food during shipping so they'd have to use a little of their tail fat.
I think I'd be more than willing to buy from you, Pat!
 
Show Me said:
No I didn't say they were sick, I'm not a gecko expert so I don't know how their health is. I just think if the guy is worried about them then why not give him a extended guarantee? I would but hey that's just me. :shrug01:
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I gotcha, thank you for clearing that up. I thought you were under the impression that they were sick and all that jazz. I am always glad when a misunderstanding is resolved. Sorry if I sounded snippy, not meant to sound that way at all. Have a great day! :)
 
i should of backed out of the trade when he declined not to send pics,im going to take this as a loss and ill never do business with him again thats for sure,to all you people who says theres nothing wrong with the 2 over bred females you would do a trade and give 350 worth of animals to him?
 
In a heartbeat. I've had geckos for a long time. I'd have no problems. Of course I actually FEED CRICKETS!
 
Maybe you should've said "hey, they might be normal looking but I'd sure appreciate seeing some pics anyway." Hmmmm?
 
reptilebaby said:
Maybe you should've said "hey, they might be normal looking but I'd sure appreciate seeing some pics anyway." Hmmmm?
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exactly but he was pretty skechy throughout the whole trade so that should of told me sthing and if he would have sent pics of those 3 i would've declined that trade,ive done several trades before and got really nice leos and never have i had to do this..
 
I actually never declined pics, that would have been no problem. No where did I ever say no jeremy I will not take you pics. I said they looked like normals and you never brought it up again. Nor was I sketchy throughout any of the trade. The sketchy part was you giving me a issue shipping in bad weather, right there I should have stopped this. You might have done several trade, but i have done thousands of trades/sales and never delt with someone so hard to please. In fact in 11 years I can count on one hand how many minor issues arose and those individuals were more then satisfied in the end.
 
Look Im done with this. Anyone reading can see you are difficult and just do not want any solution other then cash(which seems sketchy). So Im very sorry we could not make you satisfied with your order/trade. I think our offers were more then fair. Take Care and good luck with your seasons.
 
Jeremy, that post was directed at YOU. YOU should have asked AGAIN after he said they were just normal looking. I would have said that to him, and not because I don't trust but because I LOVE looking at pics!
 
the issue here has nothing to do with the weather we both agreed to ship when we did,you are the 1 that put a time frame on the shipping cause you were taking them(the babies) to the show that weekend and flipping them(meaning getting them cheap and selling for higher dollar)another thing you wanted full trade value out of yours and i settled for less,i had 40 babies for 20 dollars a piece u didnt want to do that so i dropped them to 15,so i could move them and get what i wanted to breed next year.
 
I hope you didn't misread what I worte pat! wasn't saying you're in the wrong. You were NOT. Seems you are doing everything you can to pleas him and it's not working.
 
reptilebaby said:
I hope you didn't misread what I worte pat! wasn't saying you're in the wrong. You were NOT. Seems you are doing everything you can to pleas him and it's not working.
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angie what has he dont to try and please me,he offered some of my babies back that i sent him,i declined,his other offer was to ship the babies from that last clutch to me which means i wait 30 to 40 days and whos to say i get those two babies,i dont want the granite and never really did he offered it if it was in the box great but it wasnt so i chalked it up as a loss,if the babies i sent him died during transport or a few day later i would send him more babies to compensate for that not offer 1 of the geckos he sent me back
 
You just want cash. I don't think that's reasonable. My god, man, he offered to send you a GRANITE FOR FREE, even after you began behaving like this. I sure as heck wouldn't have expected to be offered a granite free of charge! I understand him forgetting to include it in the original package. But he STILL said he would send it! THen you did complain because he didn't send it. He EVEN OFFERED to send you what hatches from those 2 eggs! who cares if it's a month or 2. It could be something nice in those eggs. FYI I don't ever have anything shipped that is gravid because the eggs could break inside mom and kill her. I'd much rather have the shipper wait until the eggs are laid, then there's little chance that something could happen.
You may not be trying to, but you really ARE coming off as an impossible to please buyer. :(
 
Honestly, with the way you're acting I would say Screw you and I won't send anything else!
He sent you what was agreed on and IMO they look pretty good. you should expect them to be a little thin after eggs and shipping. They don't look overbred at all. I stopped feeding mealies to geckos years ago, BTW because I met someone who did and the gecko didn't chew it up right and kill it. The mealie ate it's way out of the gecko. The gecko didn't live. So I started feeding crickets only.
 
It was your own fault for not asking him to send pictures to you, even after he told you they were normal looking. ALWAYS ask for pictures. And why not give the benefit of the doubt? You could always post back here if he didn't send what he promised to.
 
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