Info Paul Buckley of NY - questionable shipping practices

[th3jok3r]

I think the shipping was deplorable. I also think the buyer did exactly as she should when she EMAILED him and told him the shipping was unacceptable.

When he emailed back that his shipping was perfectly fine, and did not indicate he would begin shipping in a proper way, the buyer was completely justified in posting a BOI post, especailly since she titled it the way she did.

I would not want to buy from someone that ships that way, and believes is a good way to ship(As Paul stated himself).

Questioning the hets is inappropriate, IMHO. Unless you have some proof, mentioning it is a little inappropriate.

If he is breeding, selling, and keeping illegal animals that IS on him. Illegal keepers endanger the hobby for everyone. Shipping illegally(against FedEx terms too) also endangers the hobby. If they make your pets illegal, then you have to move. It sucks, but that's why we all try to support USARK and PIJAC, so that laws don't get passed. Boids have been illegal in NY for quite some time I think... it might be just NYC... not sure.

and yea its just NYC

 

[paul buckley]

i was away for the weekend. i realize and understand people are saying "but he's not saying he'll ship differently". i spent most of my week and weekend discussing just this matter with my wife and family - my snakes are one of the most important things in my life and i never thought i'd ever have to defend that. it's a tough one as the attitude of many on the boi will attack me for the truth - but i think i'll get attacked either way, so i might as well... i like using the materials around me. it's that simple... to utilize all the boxes and materials we all mostly throw away. it's not a money thing, it's not a cheap thing. i'm not a child of the depression and i don't live under a bridge. most will say thats crap, you're cheap, but i cant keep you from thinking that. if you knew me, you'd know cheap is the last thing i am. but you don't know me so how can i convince you that homemade boxes and afternoon shipping is'nt cheap? i cant, and if i was reading this i'd have a hard time buying it myself, hence my hesitation. but that's my answer as to "why".

that said, i will no longer do these sorts of boxes and frankly, thats due to shadera coming on here and taking me to task - which she was right to do. i think a lot of things went astray on this thread due to my own defensiveness and shadera's tone. though she was rightfully pissed and maybe had i dealt better with shadera on her first email, this all could have gone smoother... but it truly took me awhile to go from "holy hell, i just gave her a free snake, and now i'm being lectured" to "she has a point, i need to ship better". in things like this, tone can be everything and the boi has never been a bastion of civil discourse, so it's more like things on these threads get hammered out, rather than worked out. and the part where i was accused of my snakes being thin, really put me over the edge and after that, this thread became something i could only defend myself from rather than learn from. also, i work in nyc but do not live there - like most of the folks who work in nyc, i travel in. my office is around the corner from both fedex and ups, so it's always been convenient.

the best point i heard on this thread, what really opened my eyes is someone stating that others, newbies, might learn from my way of packing. i really had to think about that; and thats not good.

due to the boi, i now have no choice but to be the best packer, the best shipper out there. for me and for the snakes and for the customers.
for those of you that have been helpful and thoughtful in this thread - thank you. this has been a really black week for me, and in many ways i deserved it, but thank you for trying to keep this thread decent and helpful and on point. to anyone who said or thought they'd not do business with shadera, please think again - she did what she felt she needed to do, and i think she proved how much she cares about her animals, so i've no doubt she's a good person to buy from, or sell to.

i remain a fan of this site, and like all of you search it before i do business with anyone.

i'll not post further on this. i need to move on. just know that i am hyper aware that anyone who purchases from me can easily add to this thread or start another if i am anything less than stellar. so i hope you don't see my name on a thread like this ever again.

 

[Shadera]

Thank you Paul, for posting that. It feels very genuine to me and as said privately I didn't mean for it to turn into this. I apologize for the hurtful and unneeded "ifs" I tossed out there or that popped up in people's minds because of me - specifically the questioning of the hets -, and for my original tone. I truly didn't mean to come across that way, I'm just blunt and at times (okay, a lot..) it does rub some folks the wrong way. Again, I am sorry for that. I am thrilled to hear you'll be taking care of things from now on, that's wonderful news.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Paul, you can still recycle boxes for shipping if that's something you like to do. You don't have to use the standard white with red writing most breeders use (I think it's more professional to use those boxes, but I don't fault anyone for wanting to reduce, reuse, recycle). Using a recycled box and making it appropriate for reptile shipping is as simple as purchasing the styrofoam from your local Lowes or Home Depot and cutting it to fit. While it won't be the prettiest, it serves it's purpose.

I think though that some consideration should be made for some of the questions that were made here and were not yet answered. Are you FedEx Certified? Are you aware that shipping without labeling the outside of the box and including a detailed list is a federal violation?

 

[Wolfy-hound]

Well, hopefully something good will happen because of this then.

 

[Shadera]

Just as a kind of finality, for me anyways.. One snake did pass, and Paul sounds genuinely sorry about it via private emails. He refunded my money in full, which I totally didn't expect but am appreciative. I really do hope the next threads we see about Paul are about what a good guy he is and what a great experience they had.

Thank you Paul.

 

[michael_neal]

I got 14 ball pythons from Paul, I thought he did a great job with packing and shipping them. He never stopped thinking of the good and well being of the snakes. We even waited weeks for the weather to warm up so that he could ship them. All 14 of them made the trip from NY to Arizona Great. Keep up the good shipping Paul. Your a good guy.