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ok, the other day i was at the pet store picking up some mice for my dumerils...but theyve had this yearling albino-burmese python for about 2 or 3 months and while checkin it out the other day i noticed it had mites and something else seeded on its skin...is there anything i can do? perhaps someone could help me out by giving me some tips about talkin these people into sellin it to me cheap and getting it some care...i know right now they want to sell it for somewhere between 129-199...no one wants to pay thaty much for a sick snake and i dont think they are about to do anything about it...but yeah my point is this snake needs help and it makes me angry :hot:
 
Is this a regular pet shop that doesn't specialize in reptiles?
If it is, ask to handle the snake and point out to them that it has mites and appears sick. Make sure to let them know that you are experienced with larger breeds of snakes and that a snake in that condition should/ and cannot be sold in that bad of shape.
Once they realize that you know what your talking about, they will usually drop the price considderably because they will hope that you will buy it so that they don't have to learn or work to take propper care of it.
It is a matter of making the store feel that they have been caught taking impropper care of the animal.
When they are confronted with some one with lots of experience and knows what they are talking about they tend to want to make the problem disapear
quickly. I have been a state licensed reptile rescue for 13 years and this usually works for me in the private pet stores. It's worth spending a little extra when you know you can offer a better home or find a better home, or even save a life. Thanks for wanting to help the Burm.
Good luck to you and the Burm.
Happy Hollidays.
 
Amy Truman said:
Once they realize that you know what your talking about, they will usually drop the price considderably because they will hope that you will buy it so that they don't have to learn or work to take propper care of it......about they tend to want to make the problem disapear
quickly...... It's worth spending a little extra when you know you can offer a better home or find a better home, or even save a life.

Although I can appreciate that many are willing to take in sick/injured/poorly healthed snakes (and other animals) I must strongly disagree with this type of thinking.

I agree that when confronted the owners will want the problem to disappear unfortunately this does not take care of the problem itself. The problem is that the pet store owner/workers might not know what they are doing and/or just don't care. You buying this animal will give them one more sale and will open the door to them purchasing more to restock.

The problem is not, in this case, that there is a tick and mite infested snake in their store. The problem is that the store owner has done nothing about it. The problem is that the snake either came in in bad shape (owner bought it for cheap from a crappy dealer/seller) or was left to get that way while at the store for the months that it was there. The problem is that the owner doesn't care enough about it. Therefore, buying it and caring for it out of pity for the animal is band-aid solution.

I know amy and I are thinking along the same lines because she said it herself:

so that they don't have to learn or work to take propper care of it.

I'm not saying it's better to leave the animal there to fend for itself and most likely not having the care it needs to get back to being healthy.

I'm saying that maybe it would be more effective for you to help the owner see what kind of condition s/he is keeping this and other animals and how it can be rectified for the benefit of the animal's health and to the buyer who will appreciate a now healthy animal.

If you have the time, maybe you can spend some extra time in there one afternoon to introduce yourself and present the owner, nicely, with some helpful hints perhaps even going so far as to help clean this snake's enclosure and all others in the area (I'm wiling to bet there are more than just this one snake in this condition). Care for the snake as you see fit (there is plenty of good information on Fauna about how to rid snakes of ectoparasites) and ask that come back after a few days to repeat, and then again a few days after. If s/he is willing to let you help out and is looking interested in fixing the problem (learning how to do it) then you are going in the right direction. If not, then s/he doesn't care about the health of his/her animals.

I know it sounds a little cold hearted but cut your losses and don't buy any animal(s) out of the kindness of your heart because it looks sick and needs help. You just leave the door open for the seller to continue selling this way and you've just made him a few bucks along the way.

Give a man a fish....
 
thanks

hey i appreciate all the info you 2 have given me....ive dealt with reptiles before that were tick and mite infested and perhaps my abilities to help them should be used in the manner that you so suggested.

Steve, as you said i shouldnt leave the door open to continued business in such a manner. but this is the main reason i placed this post up, so that i could hear outside source info.

well thanks again for the info and ill see what i can do for this place.

-dan
 
hmm the name has slipped my mind but its on the east side of cleveland...east 185th i beleive
 
awesome! go for it...theres nothing i can do until after new years...just let me know how it goes
 
becks256 said:
awesome! go for it...theres nothing i can do until after new years...just let me know how it goes

Will do. I just can't stand when people display and try to sell animals that are in that condition. I had a owner of a shop say to me who do you think you are when I asked him why he would even consider selling this green anaconda he had for sale. It had blisters all over it. I told him I was the guy who was going to pull him over the counter if he didn't do something about his attitude and take care of the snake. It just so happened there was a DNR officer there who was there because they had some turtles they weren't supposed to have. Sometimes things work out.
 
that's animal cruelty so after you tell them that they should have no problem offering to sell it.
 
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