Proceed with caution: gj_snakemaster

[hhmoore]

I suggest you go read that again. This situation is not even remotely close to what you are infering.

This guy was banned by Ken. In this instance, this guy registered here recently and it is obvious his only intention was to scam. He is no different than the nigerian scammers we ban all the time.

What we do not do is a blanket banning of the "bad guys." It would serve no purpose and in the long run, if you stop to really think about it objectively, it would do more harm than good. Stop and think about how many of these bad guys come around and shoot their mouths off and continously drag their threads back to the top. They keep their own names fresh for everyone to see and be warned. That is why we don't do blanket bannings in addition to the other points made by Rich.

No need to reread it. I know the context, and see the (obvious) difference. Glad to know it was dealt with

 

[The BoidSmith]

I think the difference is that this guy used THIS site and its' classifieds to try and scam people.

I agree that it's a slightly different situation. In the other instance potential clients were redirected to this site (through his website and ads) so the opinion of some members here could be used as character references to promote his sales.

 

[Chris@TSE]

wouldnt it be nice to hear what that POS scammer had to say........ its too bad most of these dimwits are nothing more than pathetic cowards. once cuaght they tuck their tail between their legs, pull all of theirs ads, and run like the wind.......... lol

 

[ms_terese]

Mother Pussbucket!!!

I saw this a couple of days too late. He called us about an ad for an albino granite burmese at 1:00 a.m. the other day. Steve was still up and talked to him for a few minutes. He wanted pictures next to a soda can or something for size reference. The next day he wanted additional pictures of him eating, and as soon as he had those, he'd PayPal a deposit and the rest of the money at the end of the week.

Because we've had a hectic week, we sent pictures that we hadn't yet watermarked.

Of course, then he disappeared.

I'm guessing that his next ads will be for an albino granite burmese. If you see an ad for that animal by an unknown person, please check with us first to make sure it isn't ours.

Some people just need a good thumping.

 

[The BoidSmith]

wouldnt it be nice to hear what that POS scammer had to say........ its too bad most of these dimwits are nothing more than pathetic cowards. once cuaght they tuck their tail between their legs, pull all of theirs ads, and run like the wind.......... lol

Not that I necessarily disagree with you Chris, but I’m not sure what I prefer. What do these scammers have to say anyways that I want to hear? Let’s face it the most dangerous ones are not the “dimwits” as you put it, but the “semi-intelligent” ones. They are those that don’t have any scruples in facing anyone, and try to convince you that what they did was actually not that bad. That’s even common business practice or that it was just a mistake or a moment or “weakness”. Those that say “I’m sorry, from now on I’ll go straight through life”, only to turn around and lie behind your back again. So that’s my paradigm, I’m not sure which do I prefer; those, or the ones that disappear from the face of the earth without a trace. Those at least know what they have done, and don't expect unrealistical forgiveness.

Regards

 

[Chris@TSE]

actually i posted a link and photo from an ad of his here for an albino burm. check it out a few pages back

 

[ms_terese]

actually i posted a link and photo from an ad of his here for an albino burm. check it out a few pages back

That's an albino, het for granite. Ours is an actual albino granite. I'll keep an eye out, but I'm going to be out of town for awhile.

 

[Chris@TSE]

ahhh... well im sure he had the same intentions for your pic as he did for joes.... hopefully hes not stupid enough to try again. lol

 

[LakesideBoas]

ahhh... well im sure he had the same intentions for your pic as he did for joes.... hopefully hes not stupid enough to try again. lol

I don't know, I thought I heard a turtle singing earlier and a pig just flew over my neighbor's house...

 

[DAND]

I don't know, I thought I heard a turtle singing earlier and a pig just flew over my neighbor's house...

You are aware that...

 

[Chris@TSE]

Well I've got an update!

Remember the ad for the albino burm het granite that the scammer posted here, and here: http://www.reptilemarket.com/cgi-bi...esults_format=long&db_id=8069&query=retrieval

Well seems like he slipped up. I've found the owner of this snake, in fact he just purchased it a few weeks back from the VERY SAME PERSON TRYING TO rUn THE AD AGAIN AND SCAM PEOPLE! THE VERY SAME PERSON LISTING THE ADS FRO THE NON-EXISTANT ALBINO BALL PYTHON ADULT FEMALE!

Thats right, could he be any dumber? LOL

Anyways..... I've been talking with a Bobby Lagunas. Seems he purchased this albino burm a few week back when he saw an ad liste for that albino burm. The seller was local, so he picked it up in person. It was a 15 year old kid named 'Gus'... Who knows if that is his real name. I'll try to get more information. Either way, I'll post a few photos he sent me of this animal. It is indeed the same snake now in his posession and this kid has since posted additional ads for a snake that has already been sold in addition to those ads for the albino adult female bp that does not exist....

First pic will be the one in the ads we've seen, the others will be the ones Bobby sent me.

 

[Chris@TSE]

The more I look at the photos the more it does not look like the same snake, so perhaps the kid had a different snake, or simply did not have a camera and stole the photo..... I'm at a loss, but it is indeed the same person who has been posting the other ads.

 

[Chris@TSE]

and just incase that other ad gets deleted, here it is. same snake that was advertised by the scammer here on fauna...

 

[Crested Lady]

The snake in the top photo is definitely not the snake in the bottom 3. Good Lord, this gj_snakemaster is absolutely ridiculous!

 

[Chris@TSE]

yeah, that was the photo in the ad Bobby responded to. When he picked up the snake, the other three photos represent the snake he got. Who knows what this idiot is up too.... Perhaps he wasnt expecting a local buyer.. ?

All I know is I'm getting a bit closer to tracking this little bastard down.....

 

[Chris@TSE]

I've requested the buyer go thru his correspondence and forward me any messages they may have traded in email, and to also forward me any phone number(s) he may have used to contact him as well as the address he went to in order to pick up the animal. Soon as I'm able to confirm it is indeed the same individual running the scams I'll post it here.

 

[EriksReptiles]

OMG, This is sad. We need to stop this guy! HE is stealing photos and saying its his animal!! Im glad that no-one sent him the $2000 that he wanted for someone elses albino!!

Please try to find the address and post it here and we will see if its the same address!

We should get his phone number and call his parents and tell them what he is up too!!!

Pay-pal is still doing there investigation on this kid!!

Thanks Erik

 

[Sasheena]

For what it's worth, I've taken a screen shot to emphasize the difference between the two burms. I only bothered with the top photo of the KNOWN burm and then the one with the dollar on it, since it's obvious that all three of the bottom pictures are the same animal.

It's not the best picture, but to me I see a sort of crazy pattern on the neck of the animal with the dollar on it's back, and in the other three photos, there are four very uniform, distinct saddles. By itself this is enough proof for me.

 

[Gecko_Den]

Chris, since the guy picked up the burm from the kid, can he verify that the address that was provided to Erik is the actual address, or give the address where he picked up the snake?

 

[Chris@TSE]

Yeah im nearly positive the photo in the ad he used to sell the snake to bobby was not the snake he received from him, so I'm pretty sure he can give up the idea of it being het for granite lol

regardless, he picked it up three weeks ago and the ad, same picture, was posted five days ago again by the same person

gecko_den: yeah, im waiting on bobby to reply to my last email, hopefully he still has his address and such