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Professionalism?

Jim...

jsrocket said:
Hoo boy, this is getting a bit abstract, even for me. Focus? Point?
Me Too!
I think a summary of the original post reads something like, "whine, whine, whine, blah, blah, blah.." or something along those lines. :)
 
FWIW, Walk is hiding his true IP unless he is browsing from three different commercial web servers.

His typing style also has something in common with hypoboas13. Care to comment on why you are hiding your real IP "mike"? Also, you only recently registered on this site and have 27 posts, most of which appear to be on the Feedback forum. Does leave one a bit curious, eh?
 
Well there does seem to be a lot of whimpering going on in this forum and JimO seems to have the take on the most recent hurt dog.

Now I could guess that he is referring to the Dave Lawson thread and the recent remarks made to one of our local Jedi etts but that's just a guess.

Now if I recall correctly Rich when asked about how the Mods should conduct themselves on this site, that he said something to the effect that they are free to speak their minds as long as they stay within the rules ETC ETC. Randy
 
The site mods volunteer their time and efforts on this site. The warning system mods PAY to have that authority via membership levels. Although they are expected to act within the rules of this site, they are not being asked to give up their privilege of responding to posts as MEMBERS. Every mod is a member of this site and well within their rights to act as such when they feel inclined to do so. Any one of them overstepping the rules would then be treated the same as a regular member and subject to being sanctioned by the other mods.

The fact that a mod might reply to a post does not give that reply any more weight than anyone else's postings here. When acting as a mod, yes, they are held to a higher standard of conduct, but not when acting as a MEMBER.
 
Walk of Life said:
I have noticed in a couple threads recently that the level of professionalism exhibited by some of our "leading members" appears to be somewhat on the wane. When did it become appropriate for those whose lead we are supposed to follow, to engage in name calling and other rude behavior towards other members?

There is one thread in particular where several seem to have ganged up on one particular member and repeatedly left demeaning comments. Now in that particular case, the victim does engage in behavior that would lead most, including myself, to draw the same conclusion about his mental capabilities, but does this warrant our leaders who are acting in a position of authority here to stoop to that level and post it in a public forum? It almost seems like they are playing to the crowd, rather then moderating.

There are a few members whom we have all come to expect this behavior from, but I was really surprised to see it play forth from those whom we would expect to see setting the example here.

I would have hoped that barring those few individuals who seem to thrive on this type of behavior, that we had, through recent similar discussion, put some of this behind both ourselves and Fauna.

One can dream I suppose!


YES I agree it is quite a problem. :iagree:
I try to never call names like a immature child.
And they do it over and over with no reguards. :shrug01:
now even some of the people we trust to be legit are now showing their true colors doing it also
A total lack of professionalism starts with childish name calling. :NoNo:
Then you go down hill from there.
If I were a new guy here I would be turned off by it.
name calling leads to anger anger leads to hate leads to the dark side!
 
""name calling leads to anger anger leads to hate leads to the dark side!""
this leads to the opinion most have of you and thus the use of many of the words used to describe that opinion of you, such as Idiot ETC... Randy
 
question

WebSlave said:
Although they are expected to act within the rules of this site, they are not being asked to give up their privilege of responding to posts as MEMBERS. Every mod is a member of this site and well within their rights to act as such when they feel inclined to do so. Any one of them overstepping the rules would then be treated the same as a regular member and subject to being sanctioned by the other mods.

The fact that a mod might reply to a post does not give that reply any more weight than anyone else's postings here. When acting as a mod, yes, they are held to a higher standard of conduct, but not when acting as a MEMBER.



So if they post as a member they may lose credibility due to their choice of words.
yet they still represent this site as a moderator.
what I am getting at is when they post as a member can you reply back
as harsh as they replied to you?
without worry of warnings or suspension?
or are they immune from retaliation.
 
Bud has the thought ever crossed your mind that it is the way you act that causes the low opinion many have of you?? Has the thought ever crossed your mind that maybe just maybe if you say ditched the idiotic Jedi crap and stopped acting like such a twit that maybe folks here and elsewhere would look more favorably on you and thus have a better opinion of you?? I mean come on you don't like when people refer to you as an Idiot ETC but that's how many perceive you and they see you that way because you act that way. Seems simple to me act like something other than the names used in reference to you..Randy
 
bud mierkey said:
I try to never call names like a immature child.
And they do it over and over with no reguards.

With regard to the long list of names you've been called, I find them to be both appropriate and satisfactory.
 
bud mierkey said:
what I am getting at is when they post as a member can you reply back
as harsh as they replied to you?
without worry of warnings or suspension?
or are they immune from retaliation.

Why would you even care to ask that if you TRY your hardest not to act as an immature child with the name calling?

Please stop thinking so hard. You have me worried you'll suffer a seizure.
 
Mike Gamine AKA Walk of Life, just so you know, you are a newby (one month) so I will be nice, the one you are referring to happens to be very respected here, as well as everywhere else that I know of. If you think he did something wrong, than so be it. However he was speaking the truth, I don't see the problem you claim. You just came on the scene, why not sit back and watch instead of jumping up with this type of drama. I would not look to gain many friends here by you trying to shadow one of our Super Mods. If you see the need to continue, than do as you wish. However, you will be the one in the end to suffer from your subtle attack on him, you will not have much support in your efforts.
 
bud mierkey said:
without worry of warnings or suspension?
or are they immune from retaliation.
bud, you're an idiot.

Look at my warnings.

Still wearing the velcro shoes aren'tcha?
 
varnyard said:
Mike Gamine AKA Walk of Life, just so you know, you are a newby (one month) so I will be nice, the one you are referring to happens to be very respected here, as well as everywhere else that I know of. If you think he did something wrong, than so be it. However he was speaking the truth, I don't see the problem you claim. You just came on the scene, why not sit back and watch instead of jumping up with this type of drama. I would not look to gain many friends here by you trying to shadow one of our Super Mods. If you see the need to continue, than do as you wish. However, you will be the one in the end to suffer from your subtle attack on him, you will not have much support in your efforts.
Bobby, this guy is a troll.

You notice that since I asked my little question he has not posted.

Yet another attempt by yet another assclown to make some here look like something they aren't.
 
bud mierkey said:
So if they post as a member they may lose credibility due to their choice of words.
yet they still represent this site as a moderator.
what I am getting at is when they post as a member can you reply back
as harsh as they replied to you?
without worry of warnings or suspension?
or are they immune from retaliation.
Bud, this has been addressed repeatedly, but I'll say it again. If they are posting as a member, and you give back what you get (and stay within the rules), then so be it. If you address them as a moderator or violate the rules, you will have problems.
There have been a few times when somebody has just pushed the wrong button, and been suspended...but that particular call is made by the site mods or Rich, not the rest of us.

Oh, and btw, people should keep in mind that much more is tolerated on the BOI than on the other forums...and this isn't the BOI.
 
Please excuse my absence - occasionally I opt to participate in real life.
Now to address various questions.


Wilomn said:
You however, I think have recurring delusions of granduer. I think you've been here before under another name spouting the same tired drivel as you are now.

Have you ever posted on fauna using another name?

No Wes, I am a relatively new member here who has taken the time to read some of the posts that go back farther then those rendered by the "New Post" button. This allows me a little insight that belies my short time here.

I have never posted here under any other name then my own.


The BoidSmith said:
If you imply there are members who lead, you also suggest there are those that follow. There's nothing you can do (or should do) to change other people's behavior. There will always be people who will be more vocal and those who feel that have a certain seniority among others. In fact it's probably better to let them be as transparent as possible so we can all see them for what they are. In all honesty it's difficult to believe an individual will behave differently behind the computer as he will in real life. The freedom of expression that we all enjoy in here allow us to better understand the individuals you are dealing with. You don't need to agree with them, just read, internalize, and in the future use this information to decide who you want to associate with and who you don't. One final thing, if you are not who you claim to be you automatically enter the "do not interact with list".

Dan,
From what I have read, you are one of the more level-headed individuals here. I have enjoyed many of your posts. However in this case, I think you may have misunderstood mine. I simply chose the term Forum Leaders to avoid specifically naming individuals here who carry authority. I was not referring to the membership at large and meant no disrespect to anyone.

I specifically remained vague because I see no purpose in trying to publicly ridicule these individuals as I feel that they do an excellent job here. I was simply pointing out my opinion that I feel they should not engage in name calling given their position of status here.


Jim O said:
FWIW, Walk is hiding his true IP unless he is browsing from three different commercial web servers.

His typing style also has something in common with hypoboas13. Care to comment on why you are hiding your real IP "mike"? Also, you only recently registered on this site and have 27 posts, most of which appear to be on the Feedback forum. Does leave one a bit curious, eh?

Jim O,
Yes I surf the web using a proxy. It is strictly a security measure as there is an ever-increasing threat directed towards internet browsers. I'm not sure what you're referring to about three different commercial web servers. I only use one. Perhaps they randomize their IPs - I don't know.

I assure you that i am not hypoboas13. To be honest, I don't recall ever seeing any of this individual's posts, or at least they didn't make enough of an impression to be remembered by me.

Yes, I have just recently registered here. The simple reason that a larger quantity of my posts are in this forum is because there are a few individuals who question my motives and ask questions - as in the case of this thread.
In the course of answering these question, of course my post count is increased in those threads. Conversely, if I were asked to explain my posts in other threads, the result would be the same.



WebSlave said:
The site mods volunteer their time and efforts on this site. The warning system mods PAY to have that authority via membership levels. Although they are expected to act within the rules of this site, they are not being asked to give up their privilege of responding to posts as MEMBERS. Every mod is a member of this site and well within their rights to act as such when they feel inclined to do so. Any one of them overstepping the rules would then be treated the same as a regular member and subject to being sanctioned by the other mods.

The fact that a mod might reply to a post does not give that reply any more weight than anyone else's postings here. When acting as a mod, yes, they are held to a higher standard of conduct, but not when acting as a MEMBER.

Webslave,
That makes sense. I obviously had a misunderstanding in this area.
I thought I had read somewhere that Mods acting in the capacity of a moderator within a given thread were not supposed to "switch gears" and participate as a regular member within that same thread. It just seemed strange to me to have someone in a position of authority using that authority in one post and then to turn around and resort to name calling in another.

My mistake.

As I said earlier, I really like Fauna and think it is a wonderful forum. My goal was not to insult or embarrass anyone. I just felt it was out of character for those individuals to participate in that manner.


varnyard said:
Mike Gamine AKA Walk of Life, just so you know, you are a newby (one month) so I will be nice, the one you are referring to happens to be very respected here, as well as everywhere else that I know of. If you think he did something wrong, than so be it. However he was speaking the truth, I don't see the problem you claim. You just came on the scene, why not sit back and watch instead of jumping up with this type of drama. I would not look to gain many friends here by you trying to shadow one of our Super Mods. If you see the need to continue, than do as you wish. However, you will be the one in the end to suffer from your subtle attack on him, you will not have much support in your efforts.

Bobby,
I trust that I have addressed your comments in my response to Webslave.
Regardless, thank you for the advice, and rest assured, it was never my intention to "shadow" (as you put it) anyone. I think they do an excellent job here.


I hope this adequately explains my post(s) in this thread. My opinion expressed in my original post has not changed, but I now see that this behavior is perfectly acceptable based on the site rules and I accept that.

Thank you,

Mike Gamine
 
If I recall, we had yet another that made the same claims as Mike, read very old posts, so they claimed. It was not hypoboas13 who came to mind with me. I was thinking more along the lines of Sledgehammer or AKA Shrillomn. I still think they were one and the same.

Sorry guys, but if it smells like a fish, looks like a fish and swims like a fish, it must be a fish.

Sledgehammer:
Ok Bobby, I'll type slowly so that you can understand. Regardless of when I signed up, I can read posts that were made earlier - they don't go away.

Jim's AKA Sledgehammer's first post:

Sledgehammer: Alright.
How many times have we all seen this exact response from Wes.

Are you Sledgehammer or AKA Shrillomn Mike? Just a simple question. ;)


Ask yourself, does this sound like someone that joined a month ago?

Walk of Life: I thought I had read somewhere that Mods acting in the capacity of a moderator within a given thread were not supposed to "switch gears" and participate as a regular member within that same thread. It just seemed strange to me to have someone in a position of authority using that authority in one post and then to turn around and resort to name calling in another.
 
Walk of Life said:
Yes I surf the web using a proxy. It is strictly a security measure as there is an ever-increasing threat directed towards internet browsers.
Use of an anonymous proxy server is more a method of hiding your true self than a method of security. It is also a common tool of spammers and trolls.
 
Jim O said:
Use of an anonymous proxy server is more a method of hiding your true self than a method of security. It is also a common tool of spammers and trolls.

Exactly Jim, he also is using the excuse that Sledgehammer or should I say Shrillomn used, It's for the good of the site.
 
You guys are just amazing. Do you live in a perpetual Conspiracy Theory?
I have fully explained both my actions and my motives. If you cannot accept that, fine. I don't seek any validation from you. I merely expressed my opinion as a fellow member here.

Based on the positive karma I have received on this thread, there are obviously others who agree with me.

Bobby,
Your "simple" question was answered very succinctly in my previous post.


varnyard said:
Ask yourself, does this sound like someone that joined a month ago?

As far as this is concerned, I don't have the time or the inclination to search out the source. If you are so intent on proving me wrong, feel free to find every mention of this topic and I'm sure that you will discover that it has either been in a recent thread or in an old thread that it has been referenced in one.


Thank you,

Mike Gamine
 
mike or whomever you really are, I think you're lying.

I don't really care that you're lying, but I think you are.

There will be an endless line of people like you, who are not satisfied and think that they not only know better but that their better way should be forced on the rest of us. It's been happening for a long time and I see no end to it.

It gets attention. Attention seems to be what you and those like you feed on.

Feed well while you can.

Not all of us believe you though, don't forget that. Just because you don't get negative karma, especially since it can no longer be given, doesn't mean you've fooled everyone.
 
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