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Purchasing Microchipped snakes

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I have and Idea I would like to toss out there and I am looking for your feed back.

I have looked into purchasing microchips and microchipping our breeders and any 100% hets that we produce. I thought of this recently while reading adds for "100% hets" with "lost" paperwork and the thread about the stolen snakes.

I want to know anyone would be interested in purchasing already chipped snakes. This way if the paperwork was ever lost you could always call the breeder back and they could send you a new set.

I have also thought of maybe chipping all the snakes we produce/sell and just having a data base with all the info on the particular animal and it's chip number for id reference.

Okay so hit me with some pros and cons guys, what do you think?
 
ive been thinking of doing this myself with my animals, and future animals. id plan on buying the chips and Needles in bulk, and then learning how to implant the chips from a vet who does the procedure pretty regularly.

Personally, it might not sound so cost effective to some, but i would rather the peace of mind, knowing that animal can be traced back to me for any information required.
 
Microchip

This has been going on with reptiles (and other pets) for quite awhile now. However, I would do some more research on this since I have started seeing articles popping up about chips causing tumors in pets.
Rick
 
I am checking other chip vendors and I will make an appointment to speak with my vet but I think that the cost would ad an extra $20.00 or so the asking price of the snake.
I am knocking the idea around trying to get an idea if this is somthing the average buyer would be interested in.

Thanks for your feed back keep it coming!! :)
 
I honestly think that it is a pretty smart idea. But personally with me, I would only spend that "extra money" (the chip) on a snake that is at high interest or should I say "price". Putting the chip in a snake that isn't expensive would basically be a waste of money. But before dealing with chips in animals, I would really, really look into health problems it may cause in the long run to the animal. I've heard for awhile now that chips can affect the animal in many different ways, they can't really pin point it 100%, but would you really want to take that risk on any animal reguardless of it's value? The whole idea flip flops it back and forth, but just to conclude it all, I would spend that extra little bit of money on an animal with a chip, as long as I know the chip is not detrimental to the animals health. Hope this helped! : )
 
Yaz23 said:
I honestly think that it is a pretty smart idea. But personally with me, I would only spend that "extra money" (the chip) on a snake that is at high interest or should I say "price". Putting the chip in a snake that isn't expensive would basically be a waste of money. But before dealing with chips in animals, I would really, really look into health problems it may cause in the long run to the animal. I've heard for awhile now that chips can affect the animal in many different ways, they can't really pin point it 100%, but would you really want to take that risk on any animal reguardless of it's value? The whole idea flip flops it back and forth, but just to conclude it all, I would spend that extra little bit of money on an animal with a chip, as long as I know the chip is not detrimental to the animals health. Hope this helped! : )
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To point out, i have one of my cats microchipped, and all is well in the world. I am open to the information though, and will definitely keep a watch. but SO far, all is good.
I will definitely research this to the full extent before deciding 100% what i want to do with my animals as well :) Appreciate the warnings and info!
 
If the animals health were at risk, than I would be against it - I do see the good points to it as well as already posted - theft, verifying hets - although I too would keep it to the pricier animals. I do have one ball that is chipped, however that was done prior to my purchase and from my understanding all the breeders morphs which I obtained it from are as well...
 
Mike P. said:
If the animals health were at risk, than I would be against it - I do see the good points to it as well as already posted - theft, verifying hets - although I too would keep it to the pricier animals. I do have one ball that is chipped, however that was done prior to my purchase and from my understanding all the breeders morphs which I obtained it from are as well...
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So far have you seen anything negative with having the chip in your animal?
has the breeder you got it from had anything negative to say about them?
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
So far have you seen anything negative with having the chip in your animal?
has the breeder you got it from had anything negative to say about them?
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Nothing negative at all - It's growing and thriving just like the rest of them - an 05 male right around 1000 grams - Happy and healthy as a ball can be for the last 2 years...
 
I do not see this as a way to deter a scumbag from microchipping snakes to to give you that added sense of security that you have a warranted animal guaranteed to be a true het. I am not against microchipping snakes, personally I do not care if I happen to have one that is microchipped. After Chris (TSE) made bank on selling hets, with false guarantees he made on his computer, he ran off before he could be caught.

Also, even though you chip the animals, a change of ownership is needed, otherwise the argument can be made that the animals will always be yours. If the new owner does not change the ownership on the snake, you can be held accountable. One can imagine all the hypothetical situations, especially if a retic is involved, or a boa named Alice.

I am happy with taking pictures of my animals as identification.
 
Junkyard said:
I do not see this as a way to deter a scumbag from microchipping snakes to to give you that added sense of security that you have a warranted animal guaranteed to be a true het. I am not against microchipping snakes, personally I do not care if I happen to have one that is microchipped. After Chris (TSE) made bank on selling hets, with false guarantees he made on his computer, he ran off before he could be caught.

Also, even though you chip the animals, a change of ownership is needed, otherwise the argument can be made that the animals will always be yours. If the new owner does not change the ownership on the snake, you can be held accountable. One can imagine all the hypothetical situations, especially if a retic is involved, or a boa named Alice.

I am happy with taking pictures of my animals as identification.
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*headdesk* okay there alicia, space head. reply to the WHOLE post eh? *headdesk*

I still believe that With hets people need to be trustworthy when you buy them to begin with. so really, it ISNT much different than paper. The reason i would do it is say, if a theft occurred with a het, or somone lost it, or sold it and forgot.... who knows. But, if the animal was scanned, that person could call me back up and be like " hey, whats the info on this snake" and i would be able to tell them by looking up the chip number.

i think id be chipping them more for my own sake than anyone elses. Since paper can be lost and such, a chip that cannot be removed without physically harming the animal, so therefore the information is always with the snake. :)

See, i wonder if paper documentation on our own computers would suffice. a sort, of Bill of sale. Kelly and i were talking about this in chat, and she did mention that she spoke to Fish and Game of her state, she mentioned something about Ownership, that maybe she can elaborate on here as well.

the ownership stuff can be easy to change so long as the breeder can assign the persons name to that chip. Maybe it would have to be done at the time of sale, instead of registering them beforehand in the breeders name.

Keep posting this is INTERESTING stuff!
 
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Junkyard said:
I do not see this as a way to deter a scumbag from microchipping snakes to to give you that added sense of security that you have a warranted animal guaranteed to be a true het. I am not against microchipping snakes, personally I do not care if I happen to have one that is microchipped. After Chris (TSE) made bank on selling hets, with false guarantees he made on his computer, he ran off before he could be caught.

Also, even though you chip the animals, a change of ownership is needed, otherwise the argument can be made that the animals will always be yours. If the new owner does not change the ownership on the snake, you can be held accountable. One can imagine all the hypothetical situations, especially if a retic is involved, or a boa named Alice.

I am happy with taking pictures of my animals as identification.
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I agree especially in the guarantee of hets part of it - I think I'm more leaning towards the pricier animals against theft protection - a picture is worth a thousand words, and although the animals do hold some identifiable marking or patterns, some do change in appearance over time from babies into adulthood - a scan of a chipped animal could be identified without a pic - Again I'm leaning more on the theft protection side of this...
 
For the most part you could consider them to be safe, even administrations approved putting chips into humans to "access medical records instantly" by just scanning the chip that was embedded inside the skin. About 2,000 people have already had that done. BUT, what they did not know is that, those chips had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats. The "transponders" inside the chip were the cause of the tumors. Doctors and specialists believe that it may not apply to humans necessarily though. BUT, back to the animals, it's pretty ify to me.

Check this out everyone:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/08/tech/main3244380.shtml

I have 3 cats, 1 dog, 6 snakes, and 2 leo gecko's. None of my animals are chipped.. It's one of those things "you just don't know".
 
Some more info..

"A puppy receives an identification microchip via hypodermic needle. Microchips have been linked to cancer in tests with laboratory animals. (AP / CBS)"
 
Yaz23 said:
Some more info..

"A puppy receives an identification microchip via hypodermic needle. Microchips have been linked to cancer in tests with laboratory animals. (AP / CBS)"
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No link to the actual site where that came from?
How many thousands of animals have the microchips and have reported cases of problems too?

:)
 
Oh sorry. I meant to include, that was the sentence that was under the pic of the dog getting the chip in the link. If you click the link again, it's the sentence under the pic of the dog.
 
Wow..

Read this:

As the AP will report, a series of research articles spanning more than a decade found that mice and rats injected with glass-encapsulated RFID transponders developed malignant, fast-growing, lethal cancers in up to 1% to 10% of cases. The tumors originated in the tissue surrounding the microchips and often grew to completely surround the devices, the researchers said.

Source: http://www.tldm.org/News4/MarkoftheBeast.htm

Albrecht expressed concern for those who have received a chip implant, urging them to get the devices removed as soon as possible.

"These new revelations change everything," she said. "Why would anyone take the risk of having a cancer chip in their arm?" (He was referring to humans, BUT animals are the ones that actually grew the tumors, so I'd think animals would be more at stake than humans at this point).
 
Anyways everyone, I'm going to bed, it's 12:15am my time (Orlando FL). Hope this info helped some! Check out the links though, they're very interested, especially micochipping newborns?! What's that about??

I also saw on a different site, thermo-chips, with a simple scan, you can tell the body temp.'s and everything from the animal. Weird huh!?

Talk to you later!
 
Yaz23 said:
For the most part you could consider them to be safe, even administrations approved putting chips into humans to "access medical records instantly" by just scanning the chip that was embedded inside the skin. About 2,000 people have already had that done. BUT, what they did not know is that, those chips had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats. The "transponders" inside the chip were the cause of the tumors. Doctors and specialists believe that it may not apply to humans necessarily though. BUT, back to the animals, it's pretty ify to me.

Check this out everyone:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/08/tech/main3244380.shtml

I have 3 cats, 1 dog, 6 snakes, and 2 leo gecko's. None of my animals are chipped.. It's one of those things "you just don't know".
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That study is also dating back to the 1990's the technology implemented in the chips back then, may have been changed?
There are also a few different chips available, is there more information on the different kinds?

My cat is using the Home again microchip, and there are others as well. i will look further into this to see if there are reported cases of problems with this specific chip. and i will try to find more reliable info on the others as well :)
 
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