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Bad Guy Pureagenda (EllMarie Richard) Sent me a sickly bearded Dragon

Mr. K said:
I'm sure you guys will work it out.
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Working things out requires communication. The seller flounced on here, had a hissy fit a two year old would envy, and flounced out.
NO WAY would I ever purchase anything from a prima donna that cannot have a rational conversation with an unhappy customer.
As it is often said, it is how a party behaves when things are not going well that shows you what they are really made of. This seller fails.
 
Lucille said:
Working things out requires communication. The seller flounced on here, had a hissy fit a two year old would envy, and flounced out.
NO WAY would I ever purchase anything from a prima donna that cannot have a rational conversation with an unhappy customer.
As it is often said, it is how a party behaves when things are not going well that shows you what they are really made of. This seller fails.
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I have to agree. I have seen the sellers ads and have concidered buying from her, but after her hissyfit you can be assured I will not.

Her poor communication skills speaks volumes about her.
 
Lucille said:
Working things out requires communication. The seller flounced on here, had a hissy fit a two year old would envy, and flounced out.
NO WAY would I ever purchase anything from a prima donna that cannot have a rational conversation with an unhappy customer.
As it is often said, it is how a party behaves when things are not going well that shows you what they are really made of. This seller fails.
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LOL

Communication is key. NOT TYPING IN CAPS. If the best you can do is come here and YELL and kick and scream and not try and handle the situation in a professional manner then you can kiss some business good-bye. What gets to me is that some of these "breeders" honestly believe that they won't lose business with responses such as hers. This is a small and tight knit community. You'd be surprised who knows what about who...
 
Ellie always typed in caps on her e-mails. And, I tried to comunicate through e-mail. she just ignored them up to the point where she got caught in the thread.
 
As for the dragon she'll be rehabilitated. then I'll find a good forever home for her. She is doing a bit better, though still won't hold her head fully up.
She loves feeding times though; and I can't blame her.
 
HERE YOU GO FIRST EMAIL AFTER OPENING AND RECIEVING .. (oops caps )

From: Sonia Schultz <[email protected]>
To: EllMarie Richard <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans

She arrived, and is very cute!;-) thanks again Sonia ---------- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone


-----Original Message-----
From: EllMarie Richard
Sent: 6/26/2012 6:35:31 PM
To: Sonia Schultz
Subject: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans


FedEx Tracking Number: 798555083200
 
I cant respond to some who is talking to them selves for 24 thread comments never bothering to get ahold of my email or business emails given to her. I'm not throuwing any sort of fit as this deranged client is im simply being confident with my sales and knowing what she said about the dragon and its quality and then switched to get money back never offering to send the dragon bakc for full refund only bad mouthing me on this thread without contacting me directly Im going to be the bigger person. she can talk to her self on here all day long or should couldve taken the proper steps to communicate with me . She has never said she will send dragon back only wants to keep her and the money for her . From: Sonia Schultz <[email protected]>
To: EllMarie Richard <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans
She arrived, and is very cute!;-) thanks again Sonia ---------- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone


-----Original Message-----
From: EllMarie Richard
Sent: 6/26/2012 6:35:31 PM
To: Sonia Schultz
Subject: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans
FedEx Tracking Number: 798555083200
 
If she would survive the trip I would. And Also I have e-mailed you, how else would you know that I didn't want to send her back, and asked for partial refund. T o get her back into shape that I did not create he being malnourished or skin and bones
You were the one who said she was totally healthy. and as for switching something, you or someone wrote on her back. And, you can see the markings on the pic of one of your adds for the dragon on her back
 
I have dealt with Sonia before she had purchased one of our males we were very pleased with the transaction
as for Ellie I have never nor will I ever buy or sell to her
Barbie and myself caught her in a lie in one of her ads
from what I can see from the ad the dragon came in servery under weight and in poor condition Sonia asked for a partial refund because she didnt think that dragon would make the trip back (seems pretty fair to me)
did I miss something
the only thing in question is the photos because of the date but the dragon has the same 72 on its back so it doesn't look like a switch unless she had a dragon 6 years ago that looked the same with the 72 on its back
Ellie think you need to find a better way to solve this problem rather then resting on a few good transactions to hold your head up
 
pureagenda said:
I cant respond to some who is talking to them selves for 24 thread comments never bothering to get ahold of my email or business emails given to her. I'm not throuwing any sort of fit as this deranged client is im simply being confident with my sales and knowing what she said about the dragon and its quality and then switched to get money back never offering to send the dragon bakc for full refund only bad mouthing me on this thread without contacting me directly Im going to be the bigger person. she can talk to her self on here all day long or should couldve taken the proper steps to communicate with me . She has never said she will send dragon back only wants to keep her and the money for her . From: Sonia Schultz <[email protected]>
To: EllMarie Richard <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans
She arrived, and is very cute!;-) thanks again Sonia ---------- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone


-----Original Message-----y
From: EllMarie Richard
Sent: 6/26/2012 6:35:31 PM
To: Sonia Schultz
Subject: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans
FedEx Tracking Number: 798555083200
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Well Sonia it looks like you can send her back and get a full refund. Personally you should take her up on that as you have no intentions of keeping her anyway. If she survives the trip or not really isn't your problem as that is the condition you received her in. She madeot once in that condition she can do it again.
 
pureagenda said:
I cant respond to some who is talking to them selves for 24 thread comments never bothering to get ahold of my email or business emails given to her. I'm not throuwing any sort of fit as this deranged client is im simply being confident with my sales and knowing what she said about the dragon and its quality and then switched to get money back never offering to send the dragon bakc for full refund only bad mouthing me on this thread without contacting me directly Im going to be the bigger person. she can talk to her self on here all day long or should couldve taken the proper steps to communicate with me . She has never said she will send dragon back only wants to keep her and the money for her . From: Sonia Schultz
To: EllMarie Richard
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans
She arrived, and is very cute!;-) thanks again Sonia ---------- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone


-----Original Message-----
From: EllMarie Richard
Sent: 6/26/2012 6:35:31 PM
To: Sonia Schultz
Subject: tracking info there by tmrw sweet princess trans
FedEx Tracking Number: 798555083200
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OK i am calling :censored:!! Ellie when you and i talked you said your father was a vet. And that all your dragons get fecals before you ship them. You also stated that your dad checked your dragons all the time, and if that was the case you would not have sent this dragon. You have posted so many dragons changing the wieght and the size and the prices over and over. "this is the last price drop" "this is the last price drop" For having such quality you sure do sell them for cheap. And if you are not throwing a fit than why are you calling names, wich is not alowed, ussualy the person who acts like you is very guilty!!

Originally Posted by barbie
Hey hun the specs on your male from bloodbank have changed alot and a coupl people have notice. I would post a pic of him on a scale and then say why he did not sell even though you posted him as sold just so people understand Juat a tip talk to you later barb.




This i sent to you fewweeks after our transaction did not workout because you never sent fecals and i noticed your other ads changing. Thats when mike and i decided you wher not proffesional.





NO HE DID SELL FOR 590 LESS THAN A MONTH AGO TO MY NEIGHBOR DELORES HOWEVER I WANTED HIM BACK SO BAD I OFFERED 690 WHICH SHE COULDNT REFUSE BUT NOW SHE IS HERE EVERY OTHER DAY JUST TO SEE HIMLOL EVERYONE LOVES HORATIO !

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Ok I would do it for 2 of my best of clutch to make it comfurtable and please fecal them before you ship them out. I just had fecals done on all of mine! And since your dad is right ther it should work out nice. I will send some pics to your email of the babys If you are
okay go ahead and send me some pics up close with colors to [email protected] I get all the fecals hopefully today then by around 1pm down to his

I am a little worried about her age and breeding so i am going to check with my vet real quick just to make sure so i dont get a dragon that could be in danger if bred so let me do that other wise i feel good about it and will send pics if my vet gives the go ahead. Is thier any way i can persuade you out of that male leather?[/QUOTE
PERSUADING ME on the male leaTHER WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR LOT
QUALITY AND HE IS VAULED FOR AT LEAST 6 BABIES MY LEATHERBACK IS READDY TO BREED AND HAS MUCH MONEY IN BREEDING HIS GENES ARE BYPO ITALIANLEATHERBACK I MAY CONSIDER GIVING MT HYPO ITALIAN ONE IF I LIKE THE BABIES SO SEND PICKS AM EXCITE TO SEE THE CUTIES SEND SOON.. IF I DONT WANT TO WE CAN WORKOUT WITH TRADING THE PAIR FOR 2 BABIES HOLDBACKS THANKF/QUOTE]


Just a couple questions real quick. I thought you wher down sizing? and also my hold backs are worth 150 each they are not part of my Whole sale so i could not do six of them i would do 3? I was just wondering how you would keep six? and how you feel about 3? Thanks



i HAVE ABOUT 7 PLUS KIDS WITH THEIR PARENTS COMING OUT TO MY YARD EVER WEEKEND I HAVE 3 HOMES THAT NEED ONE OR TWO IM GIVING THEM THEIR OWN THEY LOVE EM AND IVE BEEN DOING FEEDING AND HOW TO CARE FOR LIL CLASSES THEIR PARENTS SAID THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN AND SINCE ILL NEVER HAVE ANY FOR THEM TO PLAY WITH AND BE WITH THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN . MY NEIGHBORHOOD COMES OVER LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THESE AWESOME ANIMALS

Husband is home any minute so it will be anytime and ill send the pics thts so cool what you do with the kids i really like that

tHANX i REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ITS FUN THEY BRING JOY AND EVEN THE GIRLIEST GIRLS WANT TO LEARN HOW TO FEED THE CRICKETS AND ARE JUST FASCINATED ITS WAY MORE EDUCATIONLA AND ENTERTAINING THEN WATCHING T.V LIKE MOST KIDS DO ALL DAY LOL YAY!!! CANT WAIT FOR PICS

I will do 4 for him thats what my partner and i feel comfurtable doing

hi barbie im just thinking about it he is sucha badass lizard he is a big deal at my house and has alot of fans.
I will make a decision quick im just so close to him. ill let you know. thank you happy easter too.[/quote][/quote]




Oh and this is funny. No way this dragon is less than 2 months old and the size and weight changed in one day.


http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319640

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320453

oh and now he is $100
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320670

I just dont understand how you have been doing this when you said you had no more dragons. And that you needed to down size. Where did they all come from? And why do you constantly change their specs? Its a bad practice.
I am sorry for what happened to you Draco!!
 
Wow, I don't see how that dragon is 16" and seems only months old.
And, thank you Barbie...I'm going to see if I can send her back, but by now I'm not sure, cause of the way she talks. she dosn't try to listen to things I've been saying. Just blameing and name calling
 
So i have read this thread and i see many issues with the dragon that was shipped. Sonia i know you want your money back and that is understandible i would to in your position but i would take the animal in and get an health check done and determine the actual age first. as for the dragon how was it shipped to you like did it have a heat pack or a cold pack and what where temperature's in the two states that it was shipped from and two just courious do to the fact that the poor animal looks like she's dehydrated and was overheated. to a point of death


and to ellie i am calling you out you live arizona how does a dragon loose that much weight in a state to state shipment and can you produce picture of her before she was shipped and not the add pics.
 
It was in the higher 80's that day. I'm not sure on her side in Az. But their was a cold pack taped to the side of the box. It had a lot of holes punched in. She was loose though with a hand towel wraped around her, and she was quite cold. I still have the box she was shipped in with everything that was in it. if anyone wants proof.

Ellie, can we come to a compramize. I'll get her back to health and she's already on Panacure. Once she's back to health and I send her to you, would you agree to a refund for her.
 
Draco11 said:
It was in the higher 80's that day. I'm not sure on her side in Az. But their was a cold pack taped to the side of the box. It had a lot of holes punched in. She was loose though with a hand towel wraped around her, and she was quite cold. I still have the box she was shipped in with everything that was in it. if anyone wants proof.

Ellie, can we come to a compramize. I'll get her back to health and she's already on Panacure. Once she's back to health and I send her to you, would you agree to a refund for her.
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That doesn't sound like very good packaging. Is it normal to ship a dragon loose like that? I only deal with snakes, but it doesn't sound appropriate at all. Poor girl:(
 
FireStorm said:
That doesn't sound like very good packaging. Is it normal to ship a dragon loose like that? I only deal with snakes, but it doesn't sound appropriate at all. Poor girl:(
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if that was correct shipping in her mind i would hate to see what bad shipping means to her and honestly the dragon should have been bagged up in that box not loose and on an overnight shipment to cali from arizona she would of been better off not using a cold or hot pack in the box. yes the dragon would of been cold and lethargic from it but it seems to me that the animal do to the cold pack almost froze to death depending on size of box she was in:angry:
 
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