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question about if morph or normal albino

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Hi,


Got this sweet kingsnake at a local pet shop, they didn't know anything other then it was an albino.


Picture's don't do it justice makes the snake look white and yellow, but he's white, with real light green scales, and ofcorse the red albino eyes.



SO long story short, this a typical albino king or a morp of some sort?


pics on photobucket couldn't figure out how to add them here

http://s1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb463/jtcw2009/?action=view&current=king2.jpg pic 1


http://s1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb463/jtcw2009/?action=view&current=king1.jpg pic2
 
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No harm, no foul Jeremy.:thumbsup:

Looks like a typical albino striped cali king (best I can tell, photo's are a little blurry).
I had one as my first long term pet snake, had her for 15 years. Nice pick up!
 
sweet thanks, wasn't sure.....little guy wouldn't sit still for pic. I wasnt sure if green strips made different even though they look yellow in picture, love little guy special morph ir not
 
Jeremy,.....if the tail has the stripe continuing all the way down the back to the tip of the tail, or even if it's broken with dots and dashes, then it is basically a striped amel Cal. king, but if it has a wide solid-topped tail, it is an amel Newport-Long Beach morph.


~Doug
 
Thank doug and dave.

He/she does have a solid green strip alway to the ind of it's tail tip.
Striped amel cal. king then?
Did I get ripped off paying pet store price of 79.99 (far as breed goes as for pet was priceless)




D. Mong said:
Jeremy,.....if the tail has the stripe continuing all the way down the back to the tip of the tail, or even if it's broken with dots and dashes, then it is basically a striped amel Cal. king,

~Doug
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Looks to be more of a Newport Phase Amel with the pattern on the laterals.......

Cal kings are from brown to black with white to yellow bands.......
The term Amel means Amelanistic = no melanin (black).
So the yellow will still be apparent and the black will be missing and replaced with no pigment......white.......

No green at all on Calkings......
 
jlassiter said:
Looks to be more of a Newport Phase Amel with the pattern on the laterals.......

Cal kings are from brown to black with white to yellow bands.......
The term Amel means Amelanistic = no melanin (black).
So the yellow will still be apparent and the black will be missing and replaced with no pigment......white.......

No green at all on Calkings......
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Yeah, that's spot-on John. I'm sure he simply means a greenish opaque hue to it, and not really a definative solid GREEN coloration from pigment cells. I know you have seen this look many times too. Likely from carotenoid retention retained within the skin cells as they mature.

Also, since the animal is an amel, and the tail has a continuous stripe down the length of the tail, right off the bat there is no question that it has both Newport-Long Beach AND San Diego striped lineage to it's origin. Hubbs states that there has never been a known "pure" Newporter albino ever found in the wild. But as we both know there are indeed many countless amel San Diego striped morphs in the hobby. These two line-bred composites are also what originated the "banana" Cal. kings decades ago.

To the OP,.....you must always expect to pay a few extra bucks from a pet store, as they have to allow for overhead of the store with some profit as well. Now if you are happy with it, and since you didn't have to pay for shipping or gas to drive to a show that was many miles away, you did fine if you look at it realistically.


~Doug
 
OOPS!!,........nevermind my comment on the green hue. Right after I posted it, I see he was talking about the normal YELLOW pigment after looking at a photo of it, and not the amel equation which is very pink at that age anyway..LOL!.............D'OH!!


~Doug
 
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