could this be it the connection why he stalks me?????
critical bill said:
Hey dum dum, if were getting back on topic, what does this have to do with what Ellis owes AA? Is there a connection I'm missing?
This is somewhat complicated and if anyone can't understand you can sort through it, Dave why is it you keep getting in to my affairs?
You have had it in for me every since you and bob broke up you partnership in Victoria reptiles because I would not side with either one of you!!
you involved your self with the AA deal for what reason! just to cause as much problems as you could just as you did with my business with ally mwenda. now you pretend you are such a good guy and want to help people by telling them I am such a bad guy. But if the truth be known you have been doing this for some time now out of being PO at me. Here is some of the reason Dave is trying so hard to keep me in the spotlight.
Now the connection here with AA. Is Dave decides to e-mail them but I doubt they will cough up when he first e-mailed them there was never a problem until I started getting emails from AA. that they had info that I had sold their animals when in fact at that point I had sold none of them as of yet because of their condition. And was still in the process of trying to get things worked out on the losses and unacceptable.
The truth of Dave Lawson is he and Bob Edwards started Victoria reptiles together and when things went south for them Dave figured he would put it out there that bob was my partner so I would lose money to an exporter he had ripped off.
Bob Edwards and I were never partners at any time!!
From: ALLY MWENDA
Date: 4/12/2006 1:35:18 AM
To: Crazy Horse! Randall
Subject: Re: Hello Mr. Ally Important please read
Mr Randy,
But Dave lowson say that you work with bob edward?
He sent me the email about this?how?
Contact them and i will be eble to forward the email that he say you work with bob edward.
So i can not send any thing.
Ally
Now this was sent to me by ally awhile back
From: ALLY MWENDA
Date: 4/1/2006 2:00:19 AM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: re;information
Dear sir/madome
Im exporter from TRANZANIA.
Here is the realy information.
Look,i got a randall contact in business in last year on october.
Then he need me to work a good relation ship business.
After that he sent me a big order of reptiles,in total $11,850.00.
You know,it is not my condition to ask a advance payment to any dealers.
But this guys accept to send me 25%of the consignment before me ask a advance?
I look that this is my fast honest importer in my business.
I say yes please send.
He send me the money soon.
After that i arrange all documents with booking then i sent him a AWB# to conferm a shipment.
One week before i got a call from mr Bob Edward that,mr Ally send a shipment to mr Randall asap becouse they work together and he will pay the balance with my full total amount that i was sent before to them with DAVE LOWSON/BOB EDWARD.the last payment it is about$ 16150.00+the balance from randys order.
I stop to do the shipment ntil i get the realy information that is it true they will send me my money or it is the thiefs?
I ask mr Randall ellis about this he say no,he is not there friend.
Again i arrange to send shipment to mr Randay.
but i ask a guy to send me a freight charge?
After mr Randy sent a freight charge i contact the airlines about a shipment.
Look,around two days before shipment to mr Randy,i sent a email to mr DAVE LOWSON&BOB EDWARD about my money.
Regarding,i get a reply from mr Dave Lowson only,that they dont have money to send me?and Bob Edward sent me a new order via a new people,but mr Dave Lawson has not mation a name of this guy when i ask him?
I ask mr Randy about this he said no,But in all that time i was not have a order from any AMERICAN?I ASK my self who is a guys?
AFTER that i stop a shipment to mr Randy ntil today.
But the truth is,i sent a very big shipment of reptiles with no advance payment on 25/07/2005 last year to mr BOB EDWARD&DAVE LAWSON the owner of VICTORIA REPTILES and the owe me my$16150.00.
So now when i ask to send me my money,they need me to follow it to the USA,why?????????????????????????????
This is to much money to me and african peoples.
But this is not good atall.
Thanks on your time.
Best regsrds,
Ally mwenda
Tanzania.
here is more corespondance from ally
From: ALLY MWENDA
Date: 4/12/2006 11:08:51 AM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Ellis and Edwards
Dear Randy,
This is the email from dave lowson that you are working with bob edward.
Randy,im still interesating in doing business with you.
So please check the way how we can do business again.
Thanks
Ally
[email protected] wrote:
Sir, I am sorry that it has taken such a long time since I have written you back. What is going on with you and Randy Ellis? I am sorry that your business has been hurt from your dealings with Edwards and Ellis, I hope that you had a chance you read all the things about them on vorras.net it did show I think that the 2 of them are still working as one to get more animals from you sir and in my opinion you should not send more animals to them. Edwards wrote you telling you that it was his money and I believe it him. Randy Ellis is saying that he is going out of Business. I have hired a lawyer and am in the process of filing lawsuits against Randy and Kathy Ellis, Reptile Locators and Bob Edwards for all that they have said about me on Vorras. net and the reptile room.net. My lawyer has already received certified copies of the post from the moderators of both sites. What I need from you is copies of ALL THE E-MAILS FROM EDWARDS AND ELLIS TO YOU. If will do this for me I will pay you the balance that Edwards owes you with the money I am awarded if any.
This is my opinion.
Thank You,
Victoria's Reptiles
813-788-0356
813-788-2906 fax
and yet he keeps on an on what his motives are you can figure it out.
From:
[email protected]
Date: 4/1/2006 12:51:04 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Just wanted you all to know
Ally, any deals that you and I have had or will have is between you and I. Randy and Bob are play games with you. They are setting you up so that you will send them animals and then they will not pay you the rest of the money. I only let Edwards use my permits to clear the shipment but you know that. Randy told me that he is planning to put you in jail once you enter the United States. He is not your friend and in telling everyone that he sent you $10,000 usd. According to Edwards Randy Ellis sold the animals that Edwards ordered from you. I would not send them another animal, ever. Every e-mail that you send to Ellis or Edwards is copied and given to the embassies and the police, Randy told me this.
this is my opinion
Thank You,
Victoria's Reptiles
813-788-0356
813-788-2906 fax
and now he keeps up till this day!
From: ALLY MWENDA
Date: 06/02/07 01:50:21
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Fwd: Ally
Note: forwarded message attached.
From:
[email protected]
Date: 05/31/07 23:03:16
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Ally
Have you ever heard of the company in your country called African Animals? Please contact them soon and ask them what Randall Ellis did to them, He stole $13,000 usd from them. He is sending a e-mail and posting it on the Internet that makes you look bad. He saying that you stole $7,500 usd from from him.
Thank You,
Victoria's Reptiles
813-788-0356
From: ALLY MWENDA
Date: 06/02/07 01:56:32
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Fwd: Randall Ellis
Note: forwarded message attached.
From:
[email protected]
Date: 06/01/07 09:01:51
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Randall Ellis
Sir, did you get my last e-mails? Randall Ellis claims that you stole $7,500 from him. Please answer my last e-mail soon.
Thank You,
Victoria's Reptiles
813-788-0356
From: ALLY MWENDA
Date: 06/02/07 01:58:19
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Fwd: Re: Randall Ellis
Note: forwarded message attached.
From:
[email protected]
Date: 06/01/07 13:26:17
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Randall Ellis
Well as you know it was Randy Ellis and Bob Edwards that ordered those animals and they are the people that owe you. I need you to answer about them owing you money. They are partners and still are. Did you contact African Animals?
Thank You,
Victoria's Reptiles
813-788-0356
Point being Dave has found new ways to screw people who will not side with him.
If anyone has or wants all the correspondence just e-mail me or ally
Now Dave I can take care of my own affairs with out your help and the lies you spread.
Also why is it when posts are made and the phantom names come out there are these exact endings This is my opinion. Or this is just my humble opinion but claims to be someone else