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Bad Guy Randy Gonzalez AKA IRandy

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I have been trying to work out a deal with randy on his enchis for the past month and have inquired on them 3 times to try to negotiate a better price and get pics of the parents. First I told him I had got a female enchi for much cheaper and asked if he would come down on the price, and he said no he takes pride in his reptiles and will not give them away, and that he had gone to Europe and purchased the parents to prevent inbreeding and they cost him too much to sell for so cheap. So I wanted pics of the parents for my own reference before I further tried to negotiate due to extremely bad Pms I recieved from other fauna users about Randy. So I wanted proof of the parents and better pics of remaining babies (i had heard the babies might have kinks or other defects or that they were a wild caught line) I had asked randy for pics of the parents telling him that I know enchis vary with color and age and that I had just bought an enchi that looked much brighter. I figured the light in his picture was just poor (the case for alot of us LOL) and he responded saying sure if I am going to buy her. I told him not for the original asking price of $450 shipped when I had just bought one that was very bright and bigger than his girls for nearly half the price, and told him that if he would be willing to bring the price down then maybe (obviously I am interested being the 3rd time in the past month I have inquired about them) Well a day went by and still had no pics of the parents so I asked 1 more time for the pics and I got a response from other users viewing the ad saying that it was an enchi and that I was a lowballer? Ok what ever I dont even care about being called a lowballer..... If you got an enchi female for $250 plus shipping and found another for $400 plus shipping that is a big difference in money and I would expect that anybody else spending that much would do there homework as well :shrug01:
in response to the reaction I got from other posts I had responded in this way
"was just asking for pics. I would like to see the European line enchis calm down people, glad you have a sale pending but i would still like to see parents for my own reference. Is the european line the same color wise or somewhat different? Thanks randy" Trying to respond directly to him so that he knows yes I am still some what interested if the deal falls through kinda thing.
This is the response I got!:icon_bs:

Deobra, please stop posting on my threads.


Sale fell through, she's back on the market!
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Ok I will stop posting on your ads(even if I want to buy something from you I wont ask ever again) and I am sorry if I did something wrong that you did not appreciate. However all I did was inquire about your reptiles in the same manner that anybody else with concerns about giving 350-450 bucks to someone :confused:

All in all I have learned my lesson........ I will not buy from Randy Gonzalez AKA IRandy. He had a lack of customer service and does not have respect for the customers dollar (or atleast not mine, and I have to much respect for my money and how hard I work for it to buy just anything)
Im sure people have had good experiences with Randy and Im sure his animals are nice..... but if you wont provide at least pics of the parents like most people willingly do for potential buyers, then Im sorry you have lost a potential long time customer.
Overall this was not a very pleasant person to work with.
Hope this helps with future buyers I dont want any one to feel like I did with this situation, it is not a happy feeling when it seems your money and concerns for what you spend it on mean nothing.
Deobra Martin
 
Not pissy just entitled to my own opinion and I did say I am sure he is a good guy but I had a bad experience. Sounds like ur pissy sending me Pms and all about this I dont even know who you are and you are not randy so why are you involving yourself by Pming me and harassing me? It has nothing to do with you what is your issue?
 
I agree here , seems the OP is hurt over not getting a better deal , Ive been thrue this as well a potential buyer giving me the old "i can get one for cheaper" or got one b4 for cheaper. If so go look for a cheaper one and don't low ball . the guy refused the offer and you insist he still provide pics since u refuse to give what he deems reasonable??
 
He's a bad guy because he wouldn't go cheaper on his price, eh? Mad he wouldn't cut his price by nearly 50%, eh? If I were him, I'd be irate too. I hate people offering irate low amounts. If you got one for $X, why don't you go get another one from Y? Regarding the PM I sent you: I don't like lowballers, plain and simple. I sent you the message privately to prevent further derail of his ad. I am sorry my non-vulgarly voiced opinion was deemed "harassing". I personally don't like being called an :censored:hole, and having a "big mouth". ;)

This would have been much better as an Inquiry or Information thread. Labeling him a "bad guy" because he didn't please your every whim is harsh, considering you haven't given him a cent. This is permenant, and could possibly affect future sales. You should have thought harder before posting this....not posting a spur of the moment thread because you were angry.
 
a seller has the right to pick who he does/doesn't choose as a customer. after 3 attempts of trying to get him to lower his prices, it's pretty obvious that he wasn't going to sell to you. i agree that he could have sent pictures, but at this point i would have been reluctant as well. especially since you were basically telling him that his animal was subpar. now you've started a bad guy thread that will be here forever about someone who wouldn't sell you an animal at the price you thought it should be. if he doesn't want to sell you his animal for cheaper than what he has posted, it's his choice. that does not make him a bad guy in my opinion.
 
Lack of customer service? Dude, come down out the clouds, you iz trippin.

Know what I tell people like you who tell me they can get [supposedly] nicer animals for less money?

GO BUY FROM THAT OTHER PERSON THEN AND STOP WASTING MY [flippertyjibber] TIME.

Bet you didnt even think twice about putting a red X by the title of this thread though huh? Be funny to see your reaction when you get a bad guy thread for doing nothing wrong, seeing as how buyers are subject to being bad guys too.

Trucking ridiculous.
 
Are you serious? You think someone is a "bad guy" because he wouldn't sell his snake to you for a cheaper price? Good grief, get over yourself! I guess you have never seen most breeders terms which imply along the lines of: "We reserve the right to refuse any sale, for any reason at any time."

WOW just wow!
 
First I told him I had got a female enchi for much cheaper and asked if he would come down on the price, and he said no he takes pride in his reptiles and will not give them away, and that he had gone to Europe and purchased the parents to prevent inbreeding and they cost him too much to sell for so cheap.
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Someone that cares THAT much is what you get when you pay the 150 dollar premium btw. There's a reason we that sell our animals for more money do so...it's called QUALITY.
 
I had discussed a higher price with him previously in December so it is not that I wanted it for a ridiculously cheap price.I was trying to go for $400 shipped instead of $450 shipped not to much of a difference but enough to make it worth while. And when I posted $250 plus shipping it was because he had no price on his ad. So I put a price out there. Upon his decline I decide I would ask for pics of the parents to see if it was worth me perusing at a higher price, and why be irate? He handled it very nicely by declining the offer. The part that was not nice about it is when I tried to get pics of the parents and possibly offer a higher price he said only if I buy her. Why would make that commitment with out seeing pics of parents? So I responded maybe if we can agree on maybe a cheaper price. The ad said "BEST OFFER" Meaning the price is negotiable. Then I was told to stop inquiring? Ok I wont re consider buying her. LOL if I need to pay bills or make some extra money and somebody is interested in what I am selling, I will do what ever I can to respectfully help my customer to make the right decisions and provide them with the info to do so. At this point I am not sure if it is enchi or not? Does it have defects? Is it wild caught? Did he even breed them? These are all questions going through my head now upon the difficulty of inquiring and maybe you are right bad guy may be to harsh but.... and I will change it just for you. I do not want to stop potential buyers I just want people to know how my experience went just like I do when I buy an animal and I am happy. Working in retail for so many years I have noticed that reptiles are obviously not stock in a store that you buy off a shelf. You shop around to get the best of the best, and one thing that I have noticed that both the reptile exchange and retail store has in common is the purchaser is your pay check they help pay your bills by purchasing from you, and you have to have respect for that. Another is that a negative experience will always have a higher affect on your business, because for every 1 person you leave unsatisfied, they will go tell 10 others.... who will then tell 10 others then you have 20 people who will most likely keep clear of you and will not buy from you.
With that being said this is just a thread for my opinion, and everyone on here is entitled to there own opinions, I most likely will not buy from him and if you do not wish to sell to me because of this thread......... that is perfectly fine with me I will give my money to someone who wants to pay there bills or bring up funds for a new project. If you are to good for me...... then my money is too good for you
 
well I am sorry I thought I could change to a inquiry but it will not let me. I did not see inquiry I thought this was only good guy or bad guy
 
did you ever offer him 400 shipped? if not, he had already made his mind up that he didn't want to sell to you. he has a right to refuse the sale.
 
You want to negotiate a better price with someone..do it in PM or e-mail,not in their add.You're making business deals, keep them private...How many people do you think are going to want to do business with you after you publicly low ball another seller?
 
yes I did back in dec. he said we can work something out and then I found the one for cheaper and dropped mostly all my money on that one. I had saved more money to buy another but since it was the last one he had and the ad said best offer I thought i would see if he would go for cheaper so he could get rid of it. I was not trying to be insulting to him by offering less and apologized for it. Then I recieved bad pms about the situation and couldnt truley believe it so I wanted proof before I asked if he would do it for the previously agreed price.
 
so he agreed to sell you his in december, but you backed out and bought a cheaper one. then you act like you are doing him a favor by "helping him get rid of it" by trying to get him to sell you his at the price you paid for your "cheaper but better" snake. and you wonder why he didn't want to deal with you? have you made him aware of this thread?
 
I should think that if they need money and the price is reasonable or I pay the original asking price then people will still sell. I dont think eveybody is stupid enough to refuse taking money from somebody? I did not try to low ball. I started at a reasonable price that I had perviously seen the same kind of snake for. The only reason I even responded to the ad is because it said "Best offer" His other ad had a price and I was not willing to pay it but when I saw best offer I just responded. I dont see that as low balling?
 
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