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Bad Guy Randy Gonzalez AKA IRandy

and just so you know pavlovk1025 and everyone else on here I did send randy an apology and let him know of this thread
 
deobra2869 said:
So I wanted pics of the parents for my own reference before I further tried to negotiate due to extremely bad Pms I recieved from other fauna users about Randy. So I wanted proof of the parents and better pics of remaining babies (i had heard the babies might have kinks or other defects or that they were a wild caught line)

All in all I have learned my lesson........ I will not buy from Randy Gonzalez AKA IRandy. He had a lack of customer service and does not have respect for the customers dollar (or atleast not mine, and I have to much respect for my money and how hard I work for it to buy just anything)
Im sure people have had good experiences with Randy and Im sure his animals are nice..... but if you wont provide at least pics of the parents like most people willingly do for potential buyers, then Im sorry you have lost a potential long time customer.
Overall this was not a very pleasant person to work with.
Hope this helps with future buyers I dont want any one to feel like I did with this situation, it is not a happy feeling when it seems your money and concerns for what you spend it on mean nothing.
Deobra Martin
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now i understand who the thread was about in the general herp talk forum, probably where you should have posted this instead of the BOI if you really needed to complain about him not selling you his snakes at your price.

im guessing from the further comments you've made in this thread since the original post that you had/have no idea how the BOI is supposed to work, but third party comments are not welcome here either such as so and so told me his animals are really wc OR so and so told me his babies are messed up, but while where on the subject, if your having people tell you this (would love to see those PM's btw) why would you even still be considering buying from him???

im not trying to speak for randy but i have a feeling that overall it wasnt a very pleasant exp for him either, and im sure hes kicking himself right now over the loss of a potential long term customer who would post in his adds trying to lowball him with every purchase and saying how she could get one cheaper from somewhere else :rolleyes:
 
Just because you got a good deal on one snake does not make it the priority of other breeders to give you the same, especially if they are obviously interested in responsible breeding practices as it appears Randy is.

I read the thread where you posted and after having graciously declined your offer ( especially considering you pestered him for the third time, as if the second offer that was declined wasn't enough) and you not-so-subtly degrade the quality of his animals by comparing how much better yours is...and criticize his pricing...you have the nerve to call him a Bad Guy.

This has now become a Bad Guy Buyer thread and reflects only upon you.
 
The BOI is like a loaded gun. The BOI is not a toy and don't use it unless you plan to kill (someones rep). You can't take back what this weapon does and there are consequences. It's best to keep it holstered and use it only when you need it. When the time comes and you get screwed, hopefully people won't take it as crying wolf, much like this case.
 
Deobra, if someone worked with you for 2 weeks on a trade of an animal that she claimed time and time again that she definitely wanted....asked her if she was able to legally ship (only to get a response of, "Yes, I've shipped before")....then on the day that the trade was to be made she came back with "Oh! SYR website isn't working anymore!" (mid-November, even AFTER Reptiles Express had come and gone--so OBVIOUSLY this was an illegal method to ship snakes!!)...got mad because you refused to accept an illegally shipped package, but then stated that she still wanted her and would just purchase her within 24 hours.....only to never be heard from again....until she used YOUR pics in her "Wanted" ad...confronted her to take them down and then got a, "I'm sorry that you didn't feel flattered that I used your pics of her in my ad."

NO...I did NOT feel "flattered" that you used a pic of the animal that I sent you, wasted 2 weeks of my time, lied and told me you'd take her, and then never heard from YOU again until YOU used MY pic in your ad, withOUT my permission!!!!!

But yet you make a BG thread about another member because he would not sell HIS animal to you on your terms.

All I have left to say is that anyone thinking of selling you an animal better REALLY NEED the money and have LOTS of time to waste on you.

The only reason that I'm bringing this up now is because, while I know nothing of the accused, I can at least show something about the character of the OP and why this BG thread is ridiculous!
 
Matt2979 said:
Deobra, if someone worked with you for 2 weeks on a trade...
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Crap...just realized that I left this question hanging and "un"asked! I meant to finish that long paragraph with the question of, "Would that be a good reason to start a BG thread on that flaky buyer?"

Of course my answer would be NO, as dealing with "tire-kickers" is unfortunately part of the business, hence I never started a BG thread on you for that, and (again) only brought it up as a character reference of the person that started this thread (as I think I made it clear that Deobra was the one that my statements were written about).
 
Deobra should be banned for this ridiculous thread. She's bad mouthing someone because they wouldn't sell her something for WHAT she wanted to pay. Unbelievable.
 
Well I am sure she thought she was going to be opening up a big can of worms on this GOOD GUY, but little did she know... She would only be ruining her own rep. I hope it was worth it Deobra.
 
Banning is a little much...being selfish, ignorant and inconsiderate isn't a violation of the TOS lol.

Deobra...dude...bad move. I hope you learned your lesson.
 
first of all matt this has nothing to do with the thread yes I know you stated that. second of all I did apologize to you for wanting to use your pic as an example, and im sorry I didnt think twice before posting it which I should have. Third I didnt know SYR wasnt working! You asked me if I had shipped before not who I shipped through or if I was certified which at the time I thought the SYR website was just under construction for the day since I had not shipped a snake recently nor bought one. I freaked out about the situation called fed ex and called every where possible trying to find a legal way to ship. Even asked friends if they were certified. Then I did tell you I would buy her yes I tried to sell my other snake so I could come up with the money but failed at doing so...... I felt bad, and I am sorry about the bad situation matt.
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Deobra should be banned for this ridiculous thread. She's bad mouthing someone because they wouldn't sell her something for WHAT she wanted to pay. Unbelievable.
That is clearly not the reason for posting this thread and if you truley believe it is than you have the right to voice your opinion. I have also noticed that the title of the original ad has change from best offer to $400 go figure that. However if I should be banned for this then everybody else on fauna who has ever complained about service should be banned as well. I apologized for what I did and apologized to randy and realize that the thread shouldnt have been posted as a bad guy thread. However what is done is done. Now moving on, apology has been made I did post on this thread an apology and that it was a mistake..... now why should I be banned for apologizing and realizing that I made a mistake? People make mistakes thats how we learn and grow and become stronger. I know you are not perfect, and I know im not either. Sorry
 
Show Me said:
I feel she should be forgiven as she has apologized. It takes some guts to admit when your wrong.
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It takes NO guts to admit you are wrong when you are CAUGHT and popular opinion is against you, frankly, that's a "let me pull my foot out of my mouth" move.

It would have been a better move for her to respect the seller's wishes.

Deobra, even if a seller say's, "Best Offer," he can later establish a price range if he wishes. Some do once they realize that most people have no idea what individual morphs should cost.
 
it seems it was 5, almost 6 pages, of people ripping on the op saying virtually the same thing. she admitted she messed up. enough people have come to the subjects defense that he is, in fact, a good guy.
if someone in the future is interesting in purchasing from Randy, if they just see a Bad Guy post and dont open the thread up to read about or do any other searches on him, they probably shouldnt be purchasing an animal from him anyway.
i have purchased from a couple people in the years ive been in this hobby, that have been labeled bad guys, and i opened and read the thread, as well as do other searches on the sellers and all was well.
 
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