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Bad Guy Randy Gonzalez AKA IRandy

reticguy76 said:
it seems it was 5, almost 6 pages, of people ripping on the op saying virtually the same thing. she admitted she messed up. enough people have come to the subjects defense that he is, in fact, a good guy.
if someone in the future is interesting in purchasing from Randy, if they just see a Bad Guy post and dont open the thread up to read about or do any other searches on him, they probably shouldnt be purchasing an animal from him anyway.i have purchased from a couple people in the years ive been in this hobby, that have been labeled bad guys, and i opened and read the thread, as well as do other searches on the sellers and all was well.
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To the bolded: I do not think you can make this determination for the breeder.

You do not know if this would have or has cost him customers because of one self-centered buyer's peeved off attitude. No where in ANY of the posts she showed did he show anything but polite manners.

Frankly, I consider she lied to try and make someone else look bad and if this barrage of outraged responses doesn't stop her doing it again (you'd be surprised how many people keep making these kind of bone-headed posts after being warned the first time), perhaps it can stand as a warning for the more discerning that do read the thread.

***Good for you, you READ the threads in question in your case. Everyone does not do that. It's time consuming, they see the BIG RED X and move on.
 
i agree to a certain extent. however, if im purchasing an animal as a potential investment, i do proper and thorough research. plus, if one does proper research, they would eventually read that the op realized she was wrong, and apologized and retracted her bad guy initial post/label. if i would just go down the list of bad guy threads related to people who were potential sellers to me, i wouldnt have come across a couple animals i have and have had that were fantastic animals.
 
Uhg...I saw this coming when I first saw the temper tantrum Deobra was throwing in the classifieds ad

hunny...you need to grow up and understand that this was most likely the most childish thing you could have done in this situation. Pure selfish, spoiled, bratty attitude and it sure as heck isn't messing up Randy's reputation as much as it is your own.

I work in customer service...I understand that trying to make a customer happy is the first priority....but even so....people should not have to deal with their product being bashed, and their own personal space invaded but rudeness....just to make a whiny brat, who isn't even going to purchase from them, happy.

I would have decided not to sell to you the moment you told me you got a better looking one for cheaper....as most people would have....as that was ignorant and rude of you to say to a seller in the first place. Who the heck would be happy dealing with anyone after a comment like that.

Good customer service does not mean you get the right to be a bad customer without consequences.

This bad guy thread is a total waste of space on the BOI....you simply help add to the list of people who don't know how to use to BOI properly to benefit the herp community in the right way.
 
(i had heard the babies might have kinks or other defects or that they were a wild caught line)
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Here's your opportunity to save yourself from at least one problem...Who did you hear the above from?
 
Willow said:
I would have decided not to sell to you the moment you told me you got a better looking one for cheaper....as most people would have....as that was ignorant and rude of you to say to a seller in the first place. Who the heck would be happy dealing with anyone after a comment like that.

Good customer service does not mean you get the right to be a bad customer without consequences.

This bad guy thread is a total waste of space on the BOI....you simply help add to the list of people who don't know how to use to BOI properly to benefit the herp community in the right way.
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I have to agree with this. I would never sell to someone after they said something like that. Maybe you didn't mean anything by it, but breeders work hard to produce quality animals. I would gladly pay extra (and have) to buy from someone like that.

As far as this thread being here...maybe someone can post a good guy thread about Randy. That way at least there will be some positive if someone searches.
 
Everything that i would have aid has already been pretty much posted. Next time before going an posting something on the BOI try to read the rules first. I have replied here in other threads but before I did that i read the rules about posting in the BOI. My first post in the BOI was an inquiry thread and could be changed to a BG but decided that the inquiry was enough. The thread was a mistake and lessons learned. Time to let this die.
 
[email protected] said:
Everything that i would have aid has already been pretty much posted. Next time before going an posting something on the BOI try to read the rules first. I have replied here in other threads but before I did that i read the rules about posting in the BOI. My first post in the BOI was an inquiry thread and could be changed to a BG but decided that the inquiry was enough. The thread was a mistake and lessons learned. Time to let this die.
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agreed. I have talked to randy and apologized, I have also talked to a moderator about having the post removed as for he is not a bad guy for not sending pics. This should have been an inquiry thread pretty much just to get some feed back about him or to let people know that I found the situation pretty odd. Randy knows that this was a mistake as I have explained to him, and alot of the recent posters on this thread agree as well. I have made a mistake which I will willingly admit to thousands of you, and I am trying to make it better. So why keep this going? Now I understand being punished by all of fauna for this however I am admitting to my mistake. For the people who keep saying bad things about me or this or that....... I have already taken the necessary steps to try to make this better. Now it just seems like people are bored and have nothing else better to do than try to cut me down? I was not cutting any body down intentionally! Like I said the thread was posted wrong randy has got an apology for anything that I said to make him feel a lesser or make him feel bad. I have seen other posts by randy. He is a good seller and he has great deals, I was just telling my situation and trying to see if anyone had dealt with him and had the same problem or if they dealt with him and had a good experience? I went about it the wrong way and noticed that. How many times do I need to apologize before people will say "ok you made a rookie mistake let this be a lesson and lets move on"
 
I really appreciate everyone's support on the subject, and any point I may wanted to express has already been done.
 
Sadly being sorry for "your rookie mistake" will never remove this bad guy thread from the BOI....you have guaranteed lost sales for Randy because of this...many people WILL NOT click on it and read it...they will simply see the Red Bad Guy thread and move on to different sales

A 21 year old who gets drunk on their birthday and kills someone with their car I'm sure feels sorry for their stupid mistake....does that mean its okay? all should be forgiven? It was just a mistake right? They didn't MEAN to mess up someone elses life.

I know that is an extreme example...but hunny I surly would not forgive you so easily for tainting my name so effortlessly and without thought of consequences.

You have permanently messed up someone's business...if Randy loses even ONE sale because of you....There is no forgiving for that.
 
I will leave my thoughts with my last post...as yes this thread should be left to fall to the bottom

sadly I just don't feel Deobra really understands the hurt she may have caused for Randy's future business sales....all of her "sorrys" seem more like defenses then actual sorrow for what was done...I find that deplorable
 
deobra2869 said:
agreed. I have talked to randy and apologized, I have also talked to a moderator about having the post removed as for he is not a bad guy for not sending pics. This should have been an inquiry thread pretty much just to get some feed back about him or to let people know that I found the situation pretty odd. Randy knows that this was a mistake as I have explained to him, and alot of the recent posters on this thread agree as well. I have made a mistake which I will willingly admit to thousands of you, and I am trying to make it better. So why keep this going? Now I understand being punished by all of fauna for this however I am admitting to my mistake. For the people who keep saying bad things about me or this or that....... I have already taken the necessary steps to try to make this better. Now it just seems like people are bored and have nothing else better to do than try to cut me down? I was not cutting any body down intentionally! Like I said the thread was posted wrong randy has got an apology for anything that I said to make him feel a lesser or make him feel bad. I have seen other posts by randy. He is a good seller and he has great deals, I was just telling my situation and trying to see if anyone had dealt with him and had the same problem or if they dealt with him and had a good experience? I went about it the wrong way and noticed that. How many times do I need to apologize before people will say "ok you made a rookie mistake let this be a lesson and lets move on"
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I disagree with "rookie mistake." What you later did, shows you to be without ethics and capable of retaliation. This goes to personal CHARACTER and far beyond trying to back peddle and make excuses about being new.

You were also in the classifieds earlier last year and you were warned about another matter involving your posting inappropriately and you continued to do so. This thread simply reveals more of your CHARACTER, and imo, it was not a mistake.

Just saying...:rolleyes:
 
Really?! Your comparing a drunk that kills someone driving to what Deobra did? Wow that's so similar. Not.

Personally I think the cut throat non forgiving attitudes in here would be the reason Randy may lose a sale. Not that Randy has anything to do with it but it may appear that those are his friends.
 
be it what it is nobody on this thread knows me personally so to judge my life character on this event is your choice. This will be my last post to this thread as well. It is not worth it to continue and was a mistake on my part whether you think I mean im sorry...... or not. So randy since you are viewing this thread I will direct this final apology to you.
 
Show Me said:
Really?! Your comparing a drunk that kills someone driving to what Deobra did? Wow that's so similar. Not.

Personally I think the cut throat non forgiving attitudes in here would be the reason Randy may lose a sale. Not that Randy has anything to do with it but it may appear that those are his friends.
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possibly? Agreed. Thank you
 
Hah...I didn't mean she killed someone, think outside of the box...simply making a point that just because it was a mistake doesn't mean it should be forgiven so easily. True remorse for wrong doing is what earns forgiveness....which I'm sure I'm not the only who who thinks her apologies where less then heartfelt.
 
This thread also shows some people are incapable of forgiveness and feel satisfaction by breaking the spirit of another person...
 
The BoidSmith said:
This thread also shows some people are incapable of forgiveness and feel satisfaction by breaking the spirit of another person...
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Think what you may....I am capable of forgiveness, I have done so many many times in my life to people who truly showed that they deserved it...I have no desire to break anyone's spirit...but again...I just don't see true sorrow for the actions taken...but of course we can always see how others decide to feel when something like this is done to them and tarnishes their own name :ack2:
 
Dont go off attacking willow for her comparason or her "seeming" incapable of forgivness, because I'm sure that she is a forgiving person, lets try and keep this thread focused on the subject(s) at hand and not attack people posting on it.
 
in what way may I show true forgiveness to YOU willow since this is a bad guy thread on you and your reputation is hurt. I have contacted randy and tried to show remorse to him and apologized.... the victim here is randy not you. And with all do respect I do not feel the need to be concerned of whether or not you believe I have remorse. The only person on here who should be shown remorse and sorrow too is Randy....... Which I have done the best to my extent of that already, with only having a computer to type it on and not being able to give the respect of doing it in person where he can truly see the emotion of remorse. How many times do I have to say im sorry or I apologize to where you see the remorse in my typing?
 
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