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Red-Eye Tree Frog Help Help Help!!!

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I have had a lot of luck keeping my Dumpy Tree frog (whites) for the past year or so.

I got a red eye FINALLY last week, and i have worried about it's lethargy for some time. I kept it clean and warm and quiet and ventilated and hoped.

Unfortunately, now he is discolored and wincing, his eyes half close and roll up and whereas he will crawl if moved, (and i only did that once for fear of stressing him out) he is resting laboredly all the time. I have NO idea how to treat this.

I am intimately familiar with treating fish and herps of all kinds. I have every antibiotic and chemical solution under the sun. I am no stranger to making my own solutions, I do not need laymans terms. There is no amph vet within reasonable driving distance.

I Need a diagnosis, even a probable one and I need someone to tell me what to do. I need this today. For now, I think I am going to isolate him in a small dark herp keeper with a heat pat and some water and prep some reaaaaalllly dillute tetracyclene or iodide, depending on what advice i can glean from the web.

Thank you in advance for your help. I have included two pictures:

(Keep in mind that isnt where he lives, He likes in a very clean well heated exo-terra arboreal cage with one white TF and one very small anole. I wouldnt keep a frog thus, I just needed to photograph him safely.)

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I will openly admit I am not very knowledgeable on the frogs. Out of curiousity, what is the temp and humidity that this guy/girl has been kept at. Also if you just got him/her I am curious as to why it would be in with other herps right away, quarantine is very very important. Not to mention I believe that the Red eyed and white's requirements vary to some degree in order to maintain ideal enviroments for both. I will try to come back on later, a friend of mine keeps both species and I will see what he has to say on the matter. I believe to the best of my knowledge that the red eyeds require quite a bit of humidity, although I could be wrong. Either way, best of luck, and get back to me when you find out humidity and temps. Dan M.
 
I also forgot to mention, Dr. Rick Jacobs in Higginum, CT(Higginum vet clinic, I think their number is 860 345 3366, but I am not sure, my dog has been dead for a while so I havent been in there or called) is a very very good vet, so if it came down to that I would highly recommend him. He did a wonderful surgery on a burmese python for us two or three years ago, and is one of the best vets in the area hands down. Dan M.
 
I am not the most experienced with them either, but I do have one. And have kept others as well. If you got him last week there is a chance he is stressed out. They change to a dark color when they are stressed. Do you know where it came from? One that sized is most likely wild caught and well, it is not easy to acclimate them. I have not had luck with that which is why I went for the CB route and have been doing just fine. You should definitely quarantine it and keep it in a smaller enclosure with minimal furnishings until it acclimates to captivity in a quiet area of the house. I wish you luck, if it is WC because I just have no luck with that.
 
I would isolate that Red Eye to atleast a 10 gallon, not a small keeper. That small keeper does not allow him room to move around or eat normally so that's stress promoting as well. Temps should be around 22-25 daytime and 18-22 at night. Humidity should be atleast 60% more like 70-75%. A heatpad under a small keeper will roast him in no time as well, room temps should be fine. Clean dechlorinated water is a must as well, should always have a water source present. If things workout and he survives, do a favour for the frog and yourself and separate the frogs and anole. Mixed species setups are hard to control effectively.

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Hey, thanks everybody who tried.

Thanks for the advice, and boy did I try. He was Isolated, and I was packing him up for the freezing cold trip to the emergency vet hospital (10 glove warmers taped to the outside of a critterkeeper wrapped in a towel) When his pupils dialated, and he splayed out and died. His eyes went white, and his color faded almost imediately... I'm not the type to give up, I water "dead" plants for weeks for the 1 in 100 times I get some life out of it... Hell Ive even stayed up a week straight tending to a wounded turtle, and It's paid off, being stubborn.

But it was too late for my little froggie, and I knew it. Someday I shall establish the fanciest cage with a filtered fountain and an air humidifier/cleaner, and I will try to keep red-eyes. And when I do, I shall look to these forums for help. They have been an enormous help in keeping all of my exotic pets, and Till now, I have never lost any of them, (not even so much as one of my hundreds of gold fish) to anything but extreme old age.

Thanks anyways. I wish my boss hadnt kept me that extra hour. I was worried sick the whole time. I knew In my heart I should have just quit. 4 chinchillas, a dog, 2 parrots, a lizard, 2 other frogs, a turtle, a pond of fish and 4 snakes... and still, how I doted on that tiny little frog above all the others.
 
Red-Eye said:
I would isolate that Red Eye to atleast a 10 gallon, not a small keeper. That small keeper does not allow him room to move around or eat normally so that's stress promoting as well. Temps should be around 22-25 daytime and 18-22 at night. Humidity should be atleast 60% more like 70-75%. A heatpad under a small keeper will roast him in no time as well, room temps should be fine. Clean dechlorinated water is a must as well, should always have a water source present. If things workout and he survives, do a favour for the frog and yourself and separate the frogs and anole. Mixed species setups are hard to control effectively.

Red-Eye
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I totally agree with you. He was in a 10 Gal. The keeper was because I was prepping him for a ride to a vet. I agree that mixed species setups are not as easy and harmless as the pet store clerks all assured me. I loathe bad pet store advice. From now on I ask a breeder on these forums first. I think he was being picked on, I really do, despite what the pet store kept telling me.
 
Bottom line is that pet stores dont really know Jack about the stuff they sell. They know the bare minimum to sell you the animal, and since there arent really any guarantees they dont have much to worry about. I am not sure what pet store you go/went to, but I also live in Connecticut and they are all poorly set up in my experiance(not that I have been to every pet store in the state). Petco in Waterford is not great, Guppies to Puppies in Old saybrook and Cromwell is ****, Magic pet sucks in Wethersfield(I think thats the town its in) and all pets club is even worse then it was before it changed owners. Then there is also slither and Swim in New Haven, that I have never been to but I have heard horror stories from a very good friend, with no reason to disbelieve him. Go fish in Clinton does well with their fish, but their reptiles are ok, but not anything fantastic in my opinion. Point being, do your own research and take everything they tell you at a pet store with a case of salt. This is definately one of the best sources for information on the net, but there are other places to gather info as well, and plenty of good books out there. I am very sorry for your loss, and good luck with all the other herps, Dan M.
 
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