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A couple of good friends of mine are doing the show... I might have to vend there... Glad I saw this thread...
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Bad Guy Repticon- Friend or Foe to the Reptile Industry?
- Thread starter Myrtle Beach Reptile Expo
- Start date
ExoticPetsWS
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Jenn & Jay, I'm sorry you guys are going through such hell with Repticon. I am somewhat surprised by their antics, being that I can remember doing a Miami Repticon show that had NO customers walk through the door. Nick Mole and I rode the tram car thing around Miami Beach with huge Meller’s Chameleons to try to get people to go to the show. Oh, and then there was a Jacksonville show that flopped…..I’m sure I’m not the only one that remembers… We didn’t bailout on Repticon. It is what it is. You take the good with the bad. Competition is the American way. Walmart is still around, so is Target and Sears and Kmart….what’s the problem?
There are so many Repticon shows every month that it’s not worth the hassle and aggravation of packing, unpacking and restocking. Not to mention the health of the animals. We have had to limit the number of shows we are doing this year so we can actually care for our animals. Doing more shows isn’t cost effective either. The cost involved to vend is high when you factor in the hotel, electric, dining out, fuel, etc, etc, etc… And did I mention the competition? Every other vendor has the same animals you have whether captive bred or imported. Veild’s, Jackson’s, Panther’s, Uro’s, Bearded’s, King’s, Corn’s Milk’s …etc.
My advice to you is, don’t sweat it. This too shall pass. You guys are great people and will have an A$$ kicking show. I can’t wait ~
There are so many Repticon shows every month that it’s not worth the hassle and aggravation of packing, unpacking and restocking. Not to mention the health of the animals. We have had to limit the number of shows we are doing this year so we can actually care for our animals. Doing more shows isn’t cost effective either. The cost involved to vend is high when you factor in the hotel, electric, dining out, fuel, etc, etc, etc… And did I mention the competition? Every other vendor has the same animals you have whether captive bred or imported. Veild’s, Jackson’s, Panther’s, Uro’s, Bearded’s, King’s, Corn’s Milk’s …etc.
My advice to you is, don’t sweat it. This too shall pass. You guys are great people and will have an A$$ kicking show. I can’t wait ~
bwt501
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Why would the OP's post be construed as a ploy to get some free advertising when anyone can start a thread on the shows&events forum on this site for free anyways? For once stop trying to drum up drama where it doesnt exist.
Jonesy's Boas and More
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I dont see the problem they should have with you wanting to put on one show a year and banning you at all considering I see them at Daytona promoting for their shows and never had an issue with Wayne Hill being at their show.Not to mention all the vendors wearing Daytona Expo Shirts during Repticon shows. If your gonna treat someone trying to expand in this industry like that how would they of ever gotten as big as Repticon is now with out support of vendors like you and many I know of traveling crazy distances to do even some of the smaller shows I've seen you at. LOL
scaledverts
I like all things scaly!
Whether it is or isn't a ploy for free advertising. It certainly looks that way when you put the website address to your own show in 5 different posts.
ophidile
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Whether it is or isn't a ploy for free advertising. It certainly looks that way when you put the website address to your own show in 5 different posts.
Maybe it's in their sig?
I just see a lot of folks with their site listed at the bottom of every post...
(Though I was getting that vibe a little too when it's both their username and tagline)
scaledverts
I like all things scaly!
Nope, look at post 5. It's not there in that post. Signatures are on every post you make.
rcpreis3
See me as a court jester
1- For the record, there is alil button that can turn ur sig on or off right below the quick reply box.
2- to the OP, post all emails, anything u can to back u up. But in reality its Dog eat Dog in the business world and if u cant hang suck it up.
3- the only Bad thing Repticon is doing, based on what info has been provided, is they are calling ur vendors and saying derogatory things about you. If these things are true, then again suck it up cuz its ur own reputation. If Repticon is telling lies to your vendors than that is slander and it would be really helpful in ur case to have them (the vendors) post in here and tell us exactly what is being said.
But if that isnt the case then quit crying and try to beat them at their own game.
2- to the OP, post all emails, anything u can to back u up. But in reality its Dog eat Dog in the business world and if u cant hang suck it up.
3- the only Bad thing Repticon is doing, based on what info has been provided, is they are calling ur vendors and saying derogatory things about you. If these things are true, then again suck it up cuz its ur own reputation. If Repticon is telling lies to your vendors than that is slander and it would be really helpful in ur case to have them (the vendors) post in here and tell us exactly what is being said.
But if that isnt the case then quit crying and try to beat them at their own game.
hhmoore
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Not to belabor the point, but it clearly isn't an autosignature....that should be obvious to anybody that looks.
The initial post makes some claims that aren't backed up in the "email"...and, usually, when emails are requested, it is the whole email (including header) that people want.
The initial post makes some claims that aren't backed up in the "email"...and, usually, when emails are requested, it is the whole email (including header) that people want.
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
I'm not really sure what this thread has to do with Repticon being a friend or foe to the
"reptile industry"...I have to go along with the general consensus - it's a business move.
You have heard that they offered other vendors free tables - identify your source(s), please...the BOI's stance on anonymous third party information is pretty well known.
Do you have proof of this claim?
Is the date of your show in direct competition with one of theirs (same day)? Is the date of the new Charleston Repticon in direct competition with yours?
What was the date of that "email" you posted from Repticon?
"reptile industry"...I have to go along with the general consensus - it's a business move.
You have heard that they offered other vendors free tables - identify your source(s), please...the BOI's stance on anonymous third party information is pretty well known.
Do you have proof of this claim?
Is the date of your show in direct competition with one of theirs (same day)? Is the date of the new Charleston Repticon in direct competition with yours?
What was the date of that "email" you posted from Repticon?
Southern Wolf
I don't bite..... HARD!!!
Do you have any proof of this?
thomas davis
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proof
wow wheres the proof of your accusations?
to answer your question i feel repticon is a definate FRIEND
to the reptile industry. also here at their houston show they permit 2 orgs. that i know of to advertise their shows eths & harka so???
???
,,,,,,,thomas davis
wow wheres the proof of your accusations?
to answer your question i feel repticon is a definate FRIEND
to the reptile industry. also here at their houston show they permit 2 orgs. that i know of to advertise their shows eths & harka so??????,,,,,,,thomas davis
Southern Wolf
I don't bite..... HARD!!!
They are not a friend to their vendors. They changed the venue from Little Rock AR to Southhaven MS and didn't inform their vendors that had reserved tables via their CC. Me and another breeder reserved 4 tables for the Little Rock show and put it on his CC. I stumbled across the change in venue and contacted him to see if they had told him. They had not. He called them and demanded a refund on his card and they informed him that they didn't charge the cards till you checked in.
What if we would have showed up to the wrong location on the wrong date with 4 tables worth of animals and product?
What if we would have showed up to the wrong location on the wrong date with 4 tables worth of animals and product?
Myrtle Beach Reptile Expo
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I have contacted my vendors that were contacted by Repticon about the free table ordeal. The problem with this is, Repticon is very quick to ban someone from their shows. Look at the time a gentleman posted about the mold situation in Colombia when a lot of people got sick. He WAS a vendor at their show. Because of his post, he has been ban from their show. These vendors do do Repticon shows. They are worried if they post, they will no longer be a loud to vend at their shows. I know this is a dog eat dog world. No problem. Competition is good. That is not what I have a problem with. What I have a problem with is they are trying to destroy another show. They are contacting my vendors telling them my vendor list is fake and trying to have my vendors cancel with my show and go with theirs. If you think me vendor list is fake, call ANYONE on that list and ask them where they will be the weekend of my show. They already have a show that weekend in Baton Rouge. When do you ever see them putting on 2 shows the same weekend? They don't. The other time this year they had a double show is when they tried to mess with the Hamburg show. Putting on a show the same weekend as theirs 2 hours away.
Look, no website address for my "FREE ADVERTISING"
Look, no website address for my "FREE ADVERTISING"
rcpreis3
See me as a court jester
So where is everyone gonna go when they cant go to Repticon?
Oh thats right maybe ur show!
Come on man if u wanna compete with the big boys u gotta think outside the box. If they have lets say... 100 vendors and still some space, 67 of them post on here. Do u really think they will ban 67 paying vendors from ever being allowed in a show?
They are trying to use bully tactics to scare everyone in to making them money, if you wanna fall for it then u might as well pull out now.
thomas davis
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haha
quote: I stumbled across the change in venue and contacted him to see if they had told him. They had not. He called them and demanded a refund on his card and they informed him that they didn't charge the cards till you checked in.
What if we would have showed up to the wrong location on the wrong date with 4 tables worth of animals and product? :endquote
stumbled across the change of venue, what if we had showed up at the wrong location AHAHAHAHAHA id say wake up outta the fog... what bs.
called them and demanded a refund huh? i would imagine he felt pretty STUPID when he found out they didnt charge his card ROFLMFAO, classic
again my opinion is they are a definate FRIEND to the reptile industry.
,,,,,,,,thomas davis
quote: I stumbled across the change in venue and contacted him to see if they had told him. They had not. He called them and demanded a refund on his card and they informed him that they didn't charge the cards till you checked in.
What if we would have showed up to the wrong location on the wrong date with 4 tables worth of animals and product? :endquote
stumbled across the change of venue, what if we had showed up at the wrong location AHAHAHAHAHA id say wake up outta the fog... what bs.
called them and demanded a refund huh? i would imagine he felt pretty STUPID when he found out they didnt charge his card ROFLMFAO, classic
again my opinion is they are a definate FRIEND to the reptile industry.
,,,,,,,,thomas davis
annmikeal
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The Repticon shows arent the greatest shows, the ones in Tampa and Orlando 10 years ago were way better. But what else do we have in Florida other than the Daytona show??? Nothing... personally Im still going to go to a show that may not be the greatest, because its better than not going to a show at all...
Killer Chams
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quote: I stumbled across the change in venue and contacted him to see if they had told him. They had not. He called them and demanded a refund on his card and they informed him that they didn't charge the cards till you checked in.
What if we would have showed up to the wrong location on the wrong date with 4 tables worth of animals and product? :endquote
stumbled across the change of venue, what if we had showed up at the wrong location AHAHAHAHAHA id say wake up outta the fog... what bs.
called them and demanded a refund huh? i would imagine he felt pretty STUPID when he found out they didnt charge his card ROFLMFAO, classic
again my opinion is they are a definate FRIEND to the reptile industry.
,,,,,,,,thomas davis
You may consider them "friends". But the Houston shows that they have put on have SUCKED big time. I will never travel all the way to pasadena again to go to such a lousy show. Very few vendors. A crappy location. They book the old convention center in the back. The lighting was absolutely horrible. And the animals were mostly subpar. They only allowed 1 feeder company at the show and they only had cricks & meals & supers. Please, I can get those at my LPS cheaper! I expected more and was thouroughly disgusted.
You want a good show in Houston, then go the ETHS show in the fall. Or drive up to Dallas and go to NARBC show. Repticon will never take my $$ again.
And for the OP. I dont blame you if they were screwing with my vendors I would call em out too.
thomas davis
New member
hahaha
yeah humble to pasadena o'boy that is a hike lmao,,,,,, theres been more than 1 feeder vendor there? when did you go? as far as animal selection and number of vendors yeah they have been low but what do you expect they have only put on 3 shows here so far. with time there will be more and better selection for the consumer. as per the OP title i feel they are a friend to the industry and being that they allowed ETHS and HARKA to advertise their shows at their show, it just doesnt make much sense that they would ban the OP for starting her own show??? im sure there is more to it. i would still like to see some proof of the allegations from the OP.
,,,,,,,,thomas davis
yeah humble to pasadena o'boy that is a hike lmao,,,,,, theres been more than 1 feeder vendor there? when did you go? as far as animal selection and number of vendors yeah they have been low but what do you expect they have only put on 3 shows here so far. with time there will be more and better selection for the consumer. as per the OP title i feel they are a friend to the industry and being that they allowed ETHS and HARKA to advertise their shows at their show, it just doesnt make much sense that they would ban the OP for starting her own show???
im sure there is more to it. i would still like to see some proof of the allegations from the OP.,,,,,,,,thomas davis
Killer Chams
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It is when gas is 3.00 or more a gall and you have to take toll road to get there and pay to park, plus pay to get in. I was out 20.00 before I even got in the show. Then the animals were sub par and I couldnt even find a hornworm or silkworm in the building. Not trying to start a war here just saying they lost me as a future attendee and vendor. I was thinking I may vend that show for my chams. No way, not worth it. It was a low turn out when I was there. I will vend ETHS, I have done well at that show in the past and would vend it again anytime...
Not trying to start a war here just saying they lost me as a future attendee and vendor. I was thinking I may vend that show for my chams. No way, not worth it. It was a low turn out when I was there. I will vend ETHS, I have done well at that show in the past and would vend it again anytime...