Bad Guy Reptidoc Dr. Darryl G. Walker

[starsevol]

Thank you Beth. Although a interesting apology I will take it gladly and accept it.

I'm glad
I felt bad about this.
I know I pmed you last month but felt like I had to make it public.
If it was just your feeding regimen, you should be up to your armpits in dead snakes, right?

 

[bloodybaroness]

Akonitony read the thread.

Those issues you bring up are not even close to the point anymore.

Just read it.

 

[Nonvenomous]

I am getting a lot of problems from the MODS as I am not providing full names of the people who are claiming about snakes from Dr. Darryl G. Walker. They said that, as per rules, my summary may be deleted if I don't provide all names.

So, from what I have gathered:

Person #1 - Reptileman81 - Josh Hardee
Person #2 - JohnNJ
Person #3 - Calvin455 - Calvin Thai
Person #4 - Vetusvates - Eric S. Burt
Person #5 - Crotalis40741

Unfortunately, I don't know Person #5, or #2's name.

I am getting a lot of negative attention for just summarizing what I can read in plain English on other sites, and there are threats of deletion. So I beg of any people involved, that haven't come forward, to come forward.

 

[Reptileman81]

Well you can add Toddsnake/Todd Lancaster to that list. He posted on here about his dealings on page 40. I also got a pm from Ryan Beatty that also had issues with Doc's small sickly animals and the way they were packed. So that is 2 more people which have had issues with Doc's animals. So that is 7 for sure but I know we are forgetting 1-2 other people somewhere.

I am sorry that the MODS are giving you such a hard time.

 

[Nanci]

Person #5 is Bob Brown. Here is his profile on Fauna.

 

[Nanci]

It is difficult to contact people on CS right now because e-mail notification of PMs has been disabled/isn't working.

 

[JohnNJ]

#2 Capurso

 

[WebSlave]

I am sorry that the MODS are giving you such a hard time.

The mods are following my directions. It is a requirement of posting on the BOI that full names be associated with any statements made. That includes third party quotes and/or references. I just do not want to have anyone making statements here that cannot be linked to the actual source of those statements.

 

[Reptileman81]

The mods are following my directions. It is a requirement of posting on the BOI that full names be associated with any statements made. That includes third party quotes and/or references. I just do not want to have anyone making statements here that cannot be linked to the actual source of those statements.

That is completely understandable.

 

[crotalis40741]

Hello, yes I am person number five, Bob Brown or crotalis40741 I have had several requests for me to post here, when all vet tests are back I will make a post of it here and of everything that has happened in my collection with the snakes in question. I feel it best to have everything together before a post of mine to be made, I am sorry for any inconvenience to anyone on this. If anyone has questions they can email me at [email protected] and I am truly sorry for everyones losses.
take care
bob

 

[Nonvenomous]

I'm sorry I am going to be leaving this situation as is. My involvement is done. I'm getting threats now and I will absolutely not put myself in a situation where I am getting threats.

 

[Nonvenomous]

I can't edit so I'll add this. It's VERY clear why people weren't so willing to come forward now.

The information is out there people, just look it up.

 

[crotalis40741]

I am so sorry this is happening to you, people making threats over a problem with snakes dying. What have we become that this has to happen to someone? I completely understand and I hope you the best. Again I am sorry this happened.
bob

 

[shed'n my skin]

I think the people "persons # 1-5" and any others who have not yet done so need to come forward with whatever they have to say, from my knowledge of this situation by reading the thread on cs and some pm with members there, many of you were afraid to come forward because of the responses to Josh in this thread. Josh NJ you also need to give your full name if you want to abide by the rules of BOI.
Yes, people are afraid to speak up in case they might get bashed. But if you don't come forward, technically it is still hearsay because a third party is the one saying it. I would think Rich needs to keep the rules on BOI strict because of possible legal action if someone feels slandered, but I don't see how anyone who said my name is ______ and I bought these snakes X, Y, Z from Doc that have died - would get bashed at this point? At any rate I am glad the thread is here for those considering buying snakes to read.

 

[Josieb1313]

It's sad that you are being threatened but the fact is all the information is out there for people to see so it's not like he can hide all of the people who have dead snakes. They are not staying quiet any longer. Thank you for all of your effort!

I'm sorry I am going to be leaving this situation as is. My involvement is done. I'm getting threats now and I will absolutely not put myself in a situation where I am getting threats.

 

[akonitony]

Akonitony you really really need to read the whole thread before you start chiming in. When a thread is 40 pages long thats 400 messages you can not simply read the first 10 and then start talking about something that has nothing to do with the issue. The adult snake in question that you speak of is fine. She bulked back up without a problem. The issue with her was that when I received her from Doc and even still today she wisses.

So does this mean I have to take off my superhero cape and stuff?
Story of my life - all dressed up and no place to go...

 

[Nanci]

#2 Capurso

There you go, #2 is John Capurso, so you have the full names of everyone.

If you want to know why this is any of my business, I will tell you. I am a mod at CS. Since this thread began, people have PMed me and said "I am having problems with these snakes and I don't know what to do." All I can say is isolate, test, necropsy. Find out what is causing the deaths. Get an answer.

I hate it that people are spending great sums and having their precious babies die. That they think _they_ are to blame. That they think _they_ are bad snake keepers. That because of their experiences, they may lose heart and fall out of the reptile-keeping hobby.

It may not be comfortable for a breeder to confront the fact that there may be a problem with his or her stock, but the problem is not going to go away by ignoring it. If something is endangering collections, we need to know. Whatever is causing the deaths, once we know, we can work toward a solution.

 

[crotalis40741]

I know I stated I was going to wait on necro results before I posted but in light of recent events I don't see how I can wait. I am not bashing anyone here just giving the facts on the snakes in question of mine.
My name is Bob Brown, I purchased six snakes from Doc Walker in February.
They arrived here in London on the 18th, Doc forgot to send me the tracking number so they had to sit at Fedex until the morning of the 19th. The snakes arrived in a non insulated box which I thought odd since my other snakes had arrived in one. I was told by Doc to feed the snakes that weekend becuase it had been ten days since they had eaten last. I knew better but I followed his advice and fed them. Five ate the hypo sk was in shed and he was fed after his shed which was a couple days later. There were no regurges from any of them. I have the emails of what I have just said if someone can tell me how the best way to put them here I will.
The hatchlings once in my care were put in idividual six quart sterlite boxes, I use newspaper instead of aspen, they were put on a five day feeding schedule. I will admit a couple of times they were fed on the sixth day and once on the seventh. The boxes are cleaned twice a week and clean water is available to them at all times. I raise my own mice and rats and every snake in my collection is fed from these. They were kept at from 78 to 82 degrees f.
On March 20th the first hatchling died, she had been fed five days before and had no regurges. She was lethargic, limp when picked up and soon died that day. At the time I chalked it up to you will lose one occasionally. The rest of the hatchlings looked fine and acted fine at that time.
On March 30th I contacted Doc about an adult female amel he had listed for $125 shipped and told him about the hatchling dying. He told me he would throw in a replacement hatchling with the order of the adult female. So I agreed. At this time I really didn't think it was a problem coming from Doc Walker and told him so in the email. At that time I had not seen all the posts on here and other sites about snakes from him dying. The replacement was not what I had originally ordered and he gave me 3 to choose from but when I made my choice he was out of them, this was a 2 day time span. So I got an amber female ph butter. The price was $130 shipped for the two when the adult was listed at $125 shipped and I paid pay pal fees. The snakes arrived on 4/5/11 and I picked them up early. They were in the smallest box I have seen anything live shipped in (I still have the box) I made the box into a temporary hide for the adult female. When I arrived home I noticed another sick female from the original six I purchased. She had regurged though and showed the same symptoms as the first female that died. She had been fed four days before. She passed away later that evening. After I got the two new snakes settled in I wrote Doc Walker and told him the snakes had arrived and were alive and that I had lost another hatchling. At this point I had really begun to doubt myself and asked what I was doing wrong. I explained the symptoms and thier appearance that they looked dehydrated and emaciated but all had water and all were eating well. I had sent this as a reply and not a new email so he changed the email subject to dehydration issues. After emailing Doc I was frantic for help and posted a thread both on fauna and on two other sites. All I was asking for was help, I did not bash anyone or blame anyone.
On 4/10/11 my male hypo sk died, he had regurged two days before and had been fed 4 days before he died. The females went quietly I say him die and at first he acted like he was coiling on a pinkie and rolling like that over and over, then he was gone. The two females died with thier mouths closed his was wide open. It looked painful when he went. But I know that is just guessing upon my part.
I have another male from the same purchase that regurged the day the male hypo sk died, and then two days later I was watching him and he started acting funny and he tried to regurge again but there was no food in him.
At this point he is still alive and I have kept everyone updated on him and the whole situation. And will continue to do so.
I am sending two snakes to be tested and as soon as that comes back I will post all results on here. I would like to thank all who have responded with kind words and thier wisdom. In my last email update to Doc Walker I told him all that was going on and that I had posted a thread for help. He told me that he wished I had not done that and that no one could help me with the snakes other than telling me to get them necropsied. And told me he has no snakes dying in his collection. I really wanted to wait on posting this here until the results came back but with so many urging me to go ahead and one of the people trying to help me being threatened over snakes dying I felt I should go ahead and tell what has happened here. I have pics of the dead snakes I have the emails where I have updated Doc Walker on the snakes.
I will gladly put them all here if someone can tell me how to do like the screen shot of them or something. Cut and paste is easy but I don't want anyone saying the emails were changed in any way. Also one of the biggest excuses about the snakes dying from any of us involved is that we are new to snakes and is our fault. I got my first snakes in 1985 and in the 90s is when my collection grew and expanded. I kept everything from corns to hots and we did breed and hatch corns, milks, kings and some live bearing pitviper offspring.
No I am not an expert, I still learn something new every day. I think when it gets to the point to where we still can't learn we should find something new to do.
Ok with all this said, here is what you can bash me for and I will accept it. I only quarintined the hatchlings for three weeks, but the rest of my collection is fine from what I can tell at this moment. I don't wiegh the snakes and I am bad at keeping feeding records. I know when they eat and don't for the collection is small. And as I have stated they all ate up till they died.
I have not asked Doc Walker about the other people with snakes that have died, maybe I should have. In his last email to me he was more worried about people starting on him and finding out where the sick snakes came from than anything else.
As I have stated I have all the emails and pics. I can provide up to date pics on them and the rest of my collection so you can see the rest of my snakes are healthy and well taken care of. If you have questions you can pm me here or send me emails to [email protected]
I will answer all questions put forth. I will end this with saying I am ashamed and sickened by the threats to Nonvenomous over dying snakes. What have we become for this kind of thing to bare its ugly head in our community.

 

[garweft]

Has anyone had adults/sub adults die with similar symptoms, or are these just 2010's?

Does anyone know if the hatchlings were brumated?

 

[Josieb1313]

I know a few have wondered if they were brumated but no one really knows for sure.

Has anyone had adults/sub adults die with similar symptoms, or are these just 2010's?

Does anyone know if the hatchlings were brumated?