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Reptile owners - Stay away from Mooresville, NC

Oh you know it, Kevin. I may be an old dog, but I'll be damned if anyones going to threaten my animals and my family and get away with it.
She called Animal Control twice, F&W once and then sicked her minions from Town Hall on us. Wouldn't that count as harassment?
 
one would think. Just think of the stink once she finds out all of those gave you the green light to keep em. ;)
 
That's excellent news Katherine. :thumbsup: I sincerely hope things work in your favor. It sure sounds like they're going to.
Go after the b............. (oh yeah we're not in Hell) :censored: for her harassment.
 
Your story is so moving! Made me so angry that some people's fears and abuse of power is turning your life into a nightmare. I hope you get the town together to fight against the people who are against you and I hope those abusing their power get fired/impeached.
 
Thank you, Jessica. I hope she gets just what she has coming to her, and if its what I think she deserves, all the better.
Its been two days now and we still haven't heard back from the property manager about the HOA's decision. Maybe someone will come by this weekend so they can see with their own eyes that the animals are well cared for, in safe enclosures and pose no threat to anyone.

We have come up with a name for the new site. It will just be a front page and a message board, but I'm hoping it will help to build a strong community so no one has to endure this again. Its the least I can do to pay back all the support and encouragement we've been given.

The new site will be "R.E.S.C.U.E."
(Reptile Enthusiasts Striving to Create Unity Everywhere)
And my signature will be the main vision.

What do you think?
 
I'm glad you guys like it. :)

So here it is Tuesday. Almost a week since we met with the HOA. Still nothing. Josh called the property manager and they haven't heard a word from them.
This waiting is nerve wracking... :rolleyes:
 
So glad things have taken a step forward since I last read this thread. Still rooting for you, and always will be. I think the website sounds great, very unique as well! Feel free to send me an email when you have it up and running. :)
 
Mr. and Mrs. Brouse, you seem to be past this point, but I am posting this for the other site members following your case who would like to avoid the types of headaches you have experienced.
After a lifetime of run-ins with local authorities over my reptile collection in various places I have lived, this is how I have modified my practices to avoid problems you have been going through.
I use a PO Box as my business address instead of my residential address always. I also never have my physical address on any advertising I do and I also do not list my business in the local yellow pages directory. I also have only a cell phone # and not a land line. My cell company only has my PO box as an address, and not my physical address. My PO box is in different neighboring municipality than the one I reside in. This is because many municipalities require local businesses to be licensed and inspected and to pay personal property taxes. They often inspect the personal property themselves and appraise it to arrive at a value. Your animals, cages, and equipment are all “personal property” that can be taxed at their market value. These municipal agencies usually have no authority to enforce their ordinances across municipal boundaries. The purpose of this is not to avoid taxes, but to AVOID INSPECTIONS, which can escalate into disasterous situations, such as your municipal personal property tax agent talking about your business to the health department down the hall. This often results in a visit by them to makes sure you are not an animal hoarder endangering public health, or some dangerous sick freak growing deadly snakes to sell to terrorists, or violating any building or zoning codes. If any of these people talk to the mayor or city council, they may decide to change the laws to limit the types and numbers of animals people can own. You could be forced to get rid of your animals or move at some point. This is exactly what happened to Terry Cullen in Milwaukee. He has had his collection of crocs and anacondas in his home and several business propertys since 1970 and there never was any problem, since it wasn’t illegal to keep large reptiles, until local animal control was taken over by PETA who got the laws changed to make all of his animals illegal and eligible for seizure. This can get ugly!

I have a state sellers permit to collect and remit sales tax with only my PO box. I do not have my business registered with the city because I don’t have to, since my business address is a PO box in a neighboring city that I have no physical presence in. Under no circumstances do I conduct anything that appears to be a business activity from my house. When I have to reveal a physical address, such as to get a PO box, I use the address of a rural vacation property that I own, but where no animals are kept. This is also the address on my drivers license and car registration. No customers ever come to my house. No mail with my business name is ever addressed to my house. No delivery trucks. I ship from the local fed-ex office and have any deliverys held for pick up at the fed ex office. All of my animals and animal-related equipment are sequestered in locked rooms with no appliances or meters that ever require entry by servicemen. I never leave anything in the living areas that would raise questions by visitors-Reptiles Magazine is NEVER left lying around the living room.
I no longer ever show my collection to anyone and never allow any of my neighbors on my property and never discuss my activities with them or anyone else with no need to know. I know all of this may sound like extreme measures, but in the state I reside in, it is really necessary to protect oneself. This is how persecution and paranoia shapes behavior. As a result of the way things are in my state, I have recently found it necessary to begin using aliases to protect myself.

I am not an attorney and cant give legal advice but this is how I do it and never had any problems by employing these practices. It keeps me under the radar and keeps everyone out of my face.
I hope you find this information useful. Good Luck
 
Bob, thank you so much for the advise. After years of happily keeping reptiles this whole ordeal has come as quite a shock.
At this point, I'm just quietly enjoying our animals, but I definitely see where you're coming from. Its heartbreaking to think that something we hold so close to our hearts can be demonized like we're doing something illegal.
I encourage anyone that is open about owning reptiles to be very mindful of who knows and what they know, and be ready to take a stand should you be called into question.

This forum has been such a blessing. We've gotten so much support and helpful advise. I can't thank you all enough.
 
WTF??

After everyone and their dog said they were okay...those idiots say they have to GO???

It's not like you were hiding them!!

OMG!!!!

I feel sooooo bad for you and your "family"!!!

Is there any way you can get some sort of facility for them to be housed in??
 
Having the documentaion that you have... can you file suit against the HOA. Your not doing anything illegal and they are discriminating against you. Maybe try to get an injunction to stop their remove order.... and while your at it... contact the press in your area / surrounding area. Raise one helluva stink.
 
"In the interest of the neighborhood, we have decided the animals need to be removed. We understand these things take time, so we would like to give you 90 days to find a new facility. We would like to offer our assistance in helping you find a commercial facility to house them in."

Still never saw the first person. :(
 
IF you have a signed lease... and your not breaking any laws..... can they really force you to remove them.... especially since they never showed up to begin with and you have documentation from the animal control officer and NC Fish and Game saying your doing everything right.
 
Did you find out in writing what the rules are on the HOA pertaining to matters like this? I live in a neighborhood with a HOA and I'm pretty sure they just can't decide to force someone to remove animals not on the outside of the property :(
 
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