REPTILES PLUS IN FLA THEIVES!!! BUYERS BEWARE!!!

[MedusaCoils]

I am going to bump this because of the new thread regarding victor!

 

[reptilesplus]

dont listen to this crazy customer she is bitter

I ordered a dwarf jackson chameleon from this guy Victor that owns Reptiles Plus in FLA. He guarateed me the right species or my money back. Well when my chameleon came it was NOT dwarf jacksons, it was a flapjack. I called to tell him he told me he did not know how to identify the species and he was relying on his wholesaler to know what they have. So after talking it over I agreed to pay him for the flapjack and he agreed to ship me my other chameleon the following week. Well the day he was supposed to ship it he emails me a picture. Guess what??? ANOTHER FLAPJACK! So he tells me he is unable to get my jacksons and he is issueing me a full refund within 2 days. I contact him the following day to ask when I am getting my refund and he says by tomorrow. So the following day I contact him again and he tells me he can not refund my money yet as he is waiting for the wholesaler to refund his money. So I put in a dispute with paypal. Then he sends paypal the tracking report for the WRONG chameleon he sent me that was worth a quarter of the price of the other one and paypal said that since he had a tracking number there is nothing they could do but close the dispute. They did say I could put in a dispute for the other amount I paid him which was only a 1/4 of the original payment. So this VICTOR FROM REPTILES PLUS ROBBED ME OF MY MONEY. HE IS A THIEF AND A SHADY PERSON DO NOT BUY FROM HIM!!!!! HE TOLD ME HIMSELF HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO IDENTIFY HIS ANIMALS AND RELIES ON THE WHOLESALERS TO DO SO. HE IS RUNNING A SHADY BUSINESS AND SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN!!!He posts on the main classified forums so if you see the ads from REPTILES PLUS steer clear if you do not want to be ripped off!!!!!

not only are you bitter Miss but you are a liar!!!! i told you if you wanted a full refund to send back the chameleon or pay the full price! so since you did not follow policy or bother to read the terms of service! you are not entiled to a refund! also this is what a recent customer had to say about Reptiles Plus which totally contra what you said on this tread which is a big lie!READ THIS Thank you Victor!
The Jackson Chameleon you sent me was great. She came to me alive and well. I was really happy that she made it. The package was packed very properly and I could tell that when I opened the package that she was very warm on her way to Minnesota. Right away when I introduced her to her new home, she was drinking within minutes. After about an hour, I was able to hand feed her. I could see the confidants she had in taking food from a human hand. Thanks for the great care and this great Chameleon. This is only the beginning of my Chameleon collection, I look forward to accumulation some more quality Chameleons from you and doing more business with you.

Chonburi Lee

I wish you the best of luck with your business. Please feel free to post this on your web site. Building trust with your customer base is defiantly very important. I will contact you this coming Monday about the males. Thanks for your time and honesty.
get over it bitter harris!

 

[MikeCurtin]

You just took 2 bad guy threads with your name on them and bumped them back to the top...nearly 2 weeks after they were forgotten. If that's any indication of how your thought processes work, I have no doubt that your business is not handled any better.


Way to go!!!

 

[Royal Morphz]

Not only that but he brought up a good guy thread on Ken Foose to make a bad guy comment without giving any info or proof.

 

[dondeb562]

Seriously, All our emails were posted here which shows exactly what kind of person you are. Let your future customers make there own decition on if they plan to do business with you or not. Slamming your customers is a great way to get more! lol! And just for the record here, the only reason you did anything for the person who posted the second thread on you was due to the fact that yet ANOTHER internet fraud case was opened against you and the fact that you were outed on shipping animals ILLEGALLY. It took you 2 MONTHS to actually admit your fault which technically you STILL did not fully admit since your email to him was you were replacing them "as a gift" lol! give me a break! One can only hope fish and game closes your sorry excuse for a business!
Oh btw- thanks for bringing this thread back to the top for me and reminding everyone on here what a smart business man you are! You "business partner" must be so proud!

 

[reptilesplus]

Seriously, All our emails were posted here which shows exactly what kind of person you are. Let your future customers make there own decition on if they plan to do business with you or not. Slamming your customers is a great way to get more! lol! And just for the record here, the only reason you did anything for the person who posted the second thread on you was due to the fact that yet ANOTHER internet fraud case was opened against you and the fact that you were outed on shipping animals ILLEGALLY. It took you 2 MONTHS to actually admit your fault which technically you STILL did not fully admit since your email to him was you were replacing them "as a gift" lol! give me a break! One can only hope fish and game closes your sorry excuse for a business!
Oh btw- thanks for bringing this thread back to the top for me and reminding everyone on here what a smart business man you are! You "business partner" must be so proud!

i made one mistake i admit too and corrected it! but in your case i did not make any mistake and i dont owe you i dime! and dont worry i will find a way to get this false tread you started removed even if i have to go to court to get it removed and once again i will post to good things that customers have to say about my business again since you and others on here are determined to say negative stuff about me on here and lies! once again here it is
Thank you Victor!
The Jackson Chameleon you sent me was great. She came to me alive and well. I was really happy that she made it. The package was packed very properly and I could tell that when I opened the package that she was very warm on her way to Minnesota. Right away when I introduced her to her new home, she was drinking within minutes. After about an hour, I was able to hand feed her. I could see the confidants she had in taking food from a human hand. Thanks for the great care and this great Chameleon. This is only the beginning of my Chameleon collection, I look forward to accumulation some more quality Chameleons from you and doing more business with you.

Chonburi Lee

I wish you the best of luck with your business. Please feel free to post this on your web site. Building trust with your customer base is defiantly very important. I will contact you this coming Monday about the males. Thanks for your time and honesty.

now let the people read this and allow them to make their judgement if they dont want to buy from me then they can go buy from someone else. just like you

 

[reptilesplus]

Not only that but he brought up a good guy thread on Ken Foose to make a bad guy comment without giving any info or proof.

i told the true base on my experiance and others in my family and friend who bought from this person. i dont need to show proof what done is done !but i have the right to post my experiance on that business. thank you!

 

[reptilesplus]

You just took 2 bad guy threads with your name on them and bumped them back to the top...nearly 2 weeks after they were forgotten. If that's any indication of how your thought processes work, I have no doubt that your business is not handled any better.


Way to go!!!

yea true but i did right in the end with the customer he deserved it he realized that by work with me instead of attack me on here he would get things resolved and that what its all about. you guys think that by coming on here attacking my business and me that not helping the customer get their refund! after reading the things that are said on here makes me not want to give someone a refund or fix the problem. so you guys need to stop! debra harris needs to get a life and get over it already! she is not intiled to a refund no one stoled her money! her tread needs to be removed from here because its false and deceptive to the public! bottom line i gave mrs harris a chance to resolve her issue and till this day she refused so that is her fault no one elses! you can keep write bad things about my business but everytime i get a good review from a customer i will post it on here so everyone can see it. of course until this tread gets removed! p.s i will find a way to get rid of miss harris false tread on here mark my words!

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

The Emails say otherwise Victor. I think you should schedule a party for the day Rich removes this thread. I am expecting it to be sunny the day after Hell freezes over

 

[Ken Foose]

So let us get this straight. The only way anyone is going to get satisfaction from you on a bad transaction is for them to be nice to you and feed your bizarre ego? If you send out crappy animals in a crappy manner in an illegal way, you'll only do the right thing for the customer if he asks you pretty please? I remember a customer once that my company sent a Leaf frog to that was packaged by a novice employee. He ended up sending that customer a frog with a rubbed snout. The customer called and complained, and I gave him the option of sending the frog back for a full refund, or taking a credit of 50% off and keeping the frog. He decided to keep the frog. Oh wait, that was you wasn't it? And, if I recall, after that transaction, you ordered frogs from me at least two more times. The first order must have lived, or why would you order again? The first Leaf frog must have done fine, or why would you have ordered again? And again? I never heard one bad thing about the animals I sent you with the exception of the Leaf Frog, which we took care of for you. You had no complaints about my service to you at all until I posted on a thread about you, not even knowing who you are, and commenting about how you suck as a businessman. Since then you have emailed me vulgar emails, called and used every cuss word in the book as you screamed at me at the top of your lungs, and now posted about how bad a businessman I am because of something I sent you. You never had a complaint before. In conclusion, you are stupid. You are a poor herpetologist, a poor businessman, and obviously out to make a quick buck at the expense of both the animals you torture and your customers. You should really look for work in another field. I hear there there are openings in both the food and housekeeping service fields. At least as a dishwasher you can cuss at the dirty dishes all day long and no one will care. What a maroon you are. Have a great day

 

[reptilesplus]

well ken sound like to me your to busy worry about my business to much!why dont you mine your business?after all you make sooo much money what you worryed about someone small like me! also how old are you again? that type of language from a 14 year old. an man like you should be ashamed of your self!grow up you
old crow! also i seem to be doing just fine despite all the trash you talk on here and yes i did buy from you!and yes you did sell be bad animals and you should look in the mirror before you throw
stones! you never gave me anything but sell me sick animals and take my money you sir are a dishonest lier! too bad the people on here do know you for the crook you are. you want to put me out of business why dont you start by lowering your outrageous prices
on your stuff. your over price you get the stuff dirt cheap and you turn around and sell it for much more then its worth. i know how much you pay for you animals and trust me i wish that people everywere would know this and see you for crook you are!

 

[Ken Foose]

Huh? I'm not sure exactly what you mean by what you posted, but then again, that goes for everything you've posted to date. I don't know of what language I used that was bad. Please remind me what horrible terms I used. As far as selling you poor quality animals, well, I have no clue what you're talking about. You NEVER complained at all. You just kept on ordering. I take care of my customers, unlike you sir. Umm, by the way, I'm not old. At least that's what I'm told by people who know me. I'm not sure what else to say to you. Nothing I post will make any sense to you at all. You are as dumb as a stump. Well, let's not insult the stump shall we? I'm not going to answer to anymore of your lame, crazy rants. I suppose you can call me and yell at me again, but you know that just makes me smile. I open at 10 am PST. How about you call me then and jumpstart my day with a laugh?
Oh, and I like my prices. I charge a very fair RETAIL price for the animals I sell. I don't sell crap, I care about each and every animal and each and every person or zoo or museum that purchases these animals from me. I'm not here to defend any of my business practices, since there's nothing to defend. I just wanted you to know what the reply from a legit, honest, successful retailer is like. None of which you are.
Ken

 

[Seamus Haley]

I remember a customer once that my company sent a Leaf frog to that was packaged by a novice employee. He ended up sending that customer a frog with a rubbed snout. The customer called and complained, and I gave him the option of sending the frog back for a full refund, or taking a credit of 50% off and keeping the frog. He decided to keep the frog. Oh wait, that was you wasn't it?

Probably for the best considering how he would have shipped it back.

 

[lanceheads]

Probably for the best considering how he would have shipped it back.

hahahahaha!

Randal Berry

 

[reptilesplus]

Huh? I'm not sure exactly what you mean by what you posted, but then again, that goes for everything you've posted to date. I don't know of what language I used that was bad. Please remind me what horrible terms I used. As far as selling you poor quality animals, well, I have no clue what you're talking about. You NEVER complained at all. You just kept on ordering. I take care of my customers, unlike you sir. Umm, by the way, I'm not old. At least that's what I'm told by people who know me. I'm not sure what else to say to you. Nothing I post will make any sense to you at all. You are as dumb as a stump. Well, let's not insult the stump shall we? I'm not going to answer to anymore of your lame, crazy rants. I suppose you can call me and yell at me again, but you know that just makes me smile. I open at 10 am PST. How about you call me then and jumpstart my day with a laugh?
Oh, and I like my prices. I charge a very fair RETAIL price for the animals I sell. I don't sell crap, I care about each and every animal and each and every person or zoo or museum that purchases these animals from me. I'm not here to defend any of my business practices, since there's nothing to defend. I just wanted you to know what the reply from a legit, honest, successful retailer is like. None of which you are.
Ken

{Oh, and I like my prices. I charge a very fair RETAIL price for the animals I sell. I don't sell crap, } oh really yea you dont sell crap you just sell frogs with there noses rubbed off their faces! oh and where are the concerned moderators on here oh yea i forget they are all on your side. what a load crap! it seem like you can get away with ripping off people on here but others cant how fair is that sound like one sided stuff. funny hey what do i have to do to get in the click!?!

 

[hhmoore]

where are the concerned moderators on here

Right here, watching...waiting.

it seem like you can get away with ripping off people on here but others cant how fair is that

Did you really just say that? Sounds like you're whining because you didn't get away with ripping people off, lol. I'm sure that isn't how you meant it... well, at least I hope it isn't.
Ken has a few threads about his business, including a few complaints, I believe...if you want to discuss Ken/Exotic Pets LV, pull one of them up and post there. THIS thread is about you.

 

[Ken Harbart]

{Oh, and I like my prices. I charge a very fair RETAIL price for the animals I sell. I don't sell crap, } oh really yea you dont sell crap you just sell frogs with there noses rubbed off their faces! oh and where are the concerned moderators on here oh yea i forget they are all on your side. what a load crap! it seem like you can get away with ripping off people on here but others cant how fair is that sound like one sided stuff. funny hey what do i have to do to get in the click!?!

Victor, the bottom line is that you present yourself as nothing more than a petulant little child. Want to be taken seriously? Then show some integrity... you whine and cry about problems that you created for yourself, trying to blame them on everyone else but yourself.

It hass nothing to do with prices or animals, but rather the simple, verifiable fact that you have chosen to engage in a pattern of criminal behavior. Until you man up and act like an adult, no one's going to take you seriously.

 

[reptilesplus]

Victor, the bottom line is that you present yourself as nothing more than a petulant little child. Want to be taken seriously? Then show some integrity... you whine and cry about problems that you created for yourself, trying to blame them on everyone else but yourself.

It hass nothing to do with prices or animals, but rather the simple, verifiable fact that you have chosen to engage in a pattern of criminal behavior. Until you man up and act like an adult, no one's going to take you seriously.

{It hass nothing to do with prices or animals, but rather the simple, verifiable fact that you have chosen to engage in a pattern of criminal behavior.} oh really last time i checked you where a moderator for fauna ken! not a lawyer unless you got a law degree! which if you did you would not be on here! leave that to the professionals to decide if i have been conducting in criminal behavior. please talk about over dramatize something. i guess that what you people do on here.

 

[Lloyd Heilbrunn]

{It hass nothing to do with prices or animals, but rather the simple, verifiable fact that you have chosen to engage in a pattern of criminal behavior.} oh really last time i checked you where a moderator for fauna ken! not a lawyer unless you got a law degree! which if you did you would not be on here!

Yeah, there are no lawyers on here.....


Lloyd J. Heilbrunn, ESQ.

 

[David Reid]

Victor,It does not take a person with a law degree, to know when a law is broken. It just takes common sense, and a person who an adult IQ.I would like to give you some free advice, which you can take or leave. The more you talk, the worse you look. Scammers, bad sellers, all around lousy guys all seem to fall into the same trap. They get caught, then point the finger at everyone else, and continue/extend their own bad guy thread, WAY longer than it would have been had they fixed the problems, or just shut up. The image you portray, is that of a cheap business that cares only about making a buck, and not about the animals they sell. The term "bottom feeder" seems to suit you. It takes a special person to deal in live animals....you my friend, are anything but special. There are a thousand people just like you....unfortunatly.