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Ridiculous Reptiles (INQUIRY)

Neil,

In the quote below is post #346 of the thread http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68168&page=70&pp=5
now closed (the bolding in the quote is mine).

And I've also come to learn that the one person that tried helping him and sticking up for him Sal has screwed over. I know Neil wouldn't post this, but hey, Sal hates me anyway......Sal lied to Neil, stole from him. and owes HIM money....

Luckily Neil moved out of that house, because that's not a place you want to be when the shit storm hits. Good move Neil....apparently no one can live with him. And I guess his excuse now for ripping people off and not paying them back will come from Karma saying "We can't afford it with the baby on the way"......
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You were told hundreds of times that you would get burnt. You nevertheless stubbornly went ahead and defended time and again this individual and even went into business with him. Seven years? This was posted on 02-06-2006 at 05:43 PM. Who should we believe, Alison or you?

It’s enough to point out the inconsistencies of an ad, or the track record of a company or individual without trying to belittle the poster in the process.

Regards.
 
varnyard said:
So Greg, I take it you have never dealt with them, right? So therefore you have nothing but an opinion, right? You might try reading the whole thread, I do think you missed something. Enough said.



Wake up, this is a inquiry to see if people that have dealt with them. So, maybe there have been others that have dealt with them. That is what this is about, not that ad.
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No I have not dealt with them. With ads like that it's pretty self explanatory whether or not they are the people to be dealing with.

Exactly what am I missing Bobby???? The seller spells like a third grader, no name, no other identifying info, just an ad with a price really.

Like I said, pony up the $$$$ and find out for us all what type of traders these people are.

I'll go with my instinct here and say they are not to be dealt with :toiletcla

I do love my opinions Bobby.
 
For the last time, I am NOT trying to belittle ANYONE.... I am simply very frustrated that this particular incedent happens ALL THE TIME.... No matter how many times we (as a group) tell them to think about it first.... But as soon as the next GREAT DEAL comes around, here we go again.... All I'm TRYING to do is get people to stop being so GREEDY every time there are dollar signs flashed in their eyes, because that's all it is, and that's all it will EVER be.... You hear the same phrase over and over again.... If it sounds to good to be true, yada yada yada, yet, nobody ever listens.... Excuse me if my writing style is very belligerent at times, it's just the frustration setting in, because I TRULY want to help the people that might not know.... There are people on here that just don't like me, and wouldn't agree with me if I said the sun sets in the west.... again, I couldn't care less, and my advice isn't for them anyway.... it's for the novice that DOES have a brain in their head and CAN understand what I'm saying and KNOWS that I'm RIGHT!! (in this case, at least).... For the rest of them.... so what, they'll do whatever they want anyway, and mainly just to spite me.... who cares, certainly not me.... And when it comes to ads, if they can't write the English language, and they're AMERICAN, and they don't have the capability to put a picture in their ad, or their NAME in their ad, or a lousy PHONE NUMBER in their ad, it stops ME from doing business with them, just too many red flags, but, obviously, there are a lot of people that just want that animal so badly (or the ILLUSION of that animal), that they will take the slightest indication that the guy is good, just so they can justify giving it a shot.... that's a bad guy post just waiting to be written.... it's just too bad you can't put my advice past your feelings for me, personally, but, that's your prerogative....

And what does Sal have to do with this.... I haven't seen him or spoken to him in MONTHS, and that's JUST the way I want to keep it.... I don't even know the name of their kid, and that's ALSO the way I want to keep it, because, at this point, I couldn't care less....
And Alison should be a guru, she hit the nail on the head, but I was just blinded by (so-called) friendship.... but, that's the way you learn, by your mistakes.... it won't happen again (at least with me)....

Neil
 
gmherps said:
No I have not dealt with them. With ads like that it's pretty self explanatory whether or not they are the people to be dealing with.

Exactly what am I missing Bobby???? The seller spells like a third grader, no name, no other identifying info, just an ad with a price really.

Like I said, pony up the $$$$ and find out for us all what type of traders these people are.

I'll go with my instinct here and say they are not to be dealt with :toiletcla

I do love my opinions Bobby.
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Once again Greg, your actions speak volumes about yourself. As for your instincts, well they tend to be basic at best. :rolleyes: See, I have opinions as well. :)
 
You know Neil.....the whole reason for even DOING an inquiry here is to find out if anyone has any information. Yes, the ad sent up red flags, but poor grammar and such doesn't necessarily mean it's a scammer. If you do a search, it's just POSSIBLE that some good folks on here can confirm either way, and help you to make a decision on whether or not to reply to the ad. Some folks just don't have the writing skills some of us are blessed with, and perhaps don't know that it's "proper" in Neil's book of kosher ads to have your complete name listed in every ad. That's why we come to ask if anyone knows them, or has any history on them. That's the whole theory behind the BOI, is it not? :)

It certainly sounds "belittling" to me when you are saying things like, "if they have a brain in their head".
 
Neil Gubitz said:
For the last time, I am NOT trying to belittle ANYONE.... I am simply very frustrated that this particular incedent happens ALL THE TIME.... No matter how many times we (as a group) tell them to think about it first.... But as soon as the next GREAT DEAL comes around, here we go again.... All I'm TRYING to do is get people to stop being so GREEDY every time there are dollar signs flashed in their eyes, because that's all it is, and that's all it will EVER be.... You hear the same phrase over and over again.... If it sounds to good to be true, yada yada yada, yet, nobody ever listens.... Excuse me if my writing style is very belligerent at times, it's just the frustration setting in, because I TRULY want to help the people that might not know.... There are people on here that just don't like me, and wouldn't agree with me if I said the sun sets in the west.... again, I couldn't care less, and my advice isn't for them anyway.... it's for the novice that DOES have a brain in their head and CAN understand what I'm saying and KNOWS that I'm RIGHT!! (in this case, at least).... For the rest of them.... so what, they'll do whatever they want anyway, and mainly just to spite me.... who cares, certainly not me.... And when it comes to ads, if they can't write the English language, and they're AMERICAN, and they don't have the capability to put a picture in their ad, or their NAME in their ad, or a lousy PHONE NUMBER in their ad, it stops ME from doing business with them, just too many red flags, but, obviously, there are a lot of people that just want that animal so badly (or the ILLUSION of that animal), that they will take the slightest indication that the guy is good, just so they can justify giving it a shot.... that's a bad guy post just waiting to be written.... it's just too bad you can't put my advice past your feelings for me, personally, but, that's your prerogative....

And what does Sal have to do with this.... I haven't seen him or spoken to him in MONTHS, and that's JUST the way I want to keep it.... I don't even know the name of their kid, and that's ALSO the way I want to keep it, because, at this point, I couldn't care less....
And Alison should be a guru, she hit the nail on the head, but I was just blinded by (so-called) friendship.... but, that's the way you learn, by your mistakes.... it won't happen again (at least with me)....

Neil
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Thats just it, this is not about you. You had your say on this, but you did not bring anything to the table we did not already know. Once again this was a INQUIRY about this person, not for your opinion of what you would do, or where your opinion stands.

Is it just me, or is this way off topic?
 
Neil.......you missed the whole point of my post. :rolleyes:

I'm not saying I would recommend buying from them, I'm just saying that belittling people for making an inquiry here defeats the whole purpose of the BOI. Is that so tough to understand?
 
Cathy.... it seems it's YOU that doesn't understand.... It is NOT the fact that they made a simple inquiry on here, it's the REASON they made their inquiry.... They didn't make it just to see about this guy's reputation.... They made it because of what the ad SAID.... It was a deal too good to be true, and there went those dollar signs again....
Cathy, PLEASE read my responses again, and read them with THAT thought in mind??....

The other stuff is just my personal feeling about very poorly written ads....

Neil
 
Neil Gubitz said:
It's ok, Cathy.... this is America.... you can give your money to any grammar school dropout you want.... I'll take a pass, though....

Neil
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She did Neil. I have dealt with her twice. Both times she never got scammed.

For your information I had to quit school at the age of almost 16. My father left my family when I was 7 and my mother died of cancer when I was almost 16. My mother and father never kept in touch with my aunts, uncles or anyone else that was family. So I never knew any of my other family except my mother and father. I had a choice to either go into foster care, or quit school and go to work. Well anyone that knows me, knows good and well what choice I would make.

Maybe that is the reason it turns my stomach when people start bashing people that never got the chance some of us did. Does this make that person dirt? You be the judge.

I am not looking for someone to feel sorry for me, I just wanted to prove a point as to why some people are not the greatest with grammar.
 
Bobby... What are you talking about??.... YOU WRITE VERY WELL.... If there was something YOU had that I wanted, I would have no problem dealing with you.... That's what I mean.... it makes no difference how you were raised, or who you were raised with (or without).... YOU LEARNED VERY WELL ENGLISH AND MORE GOODER GRAMMAR.... Why shouldn't I, and especially you, EXPECT THAT from the people of AMERICA??....

I could go on for hours on THIS topic, but I'll give it a rest so as not to go too far off topic....

Neil
 
Wow guys, I didn't make this thread for it to turn into some big immature fight over grammar and whatnot. I have friends that are extremely intelligent and educated, but can't type worth a damn, never use punctuation or capital letters, and misspell just about everything. That doesn't mean anything at all and doesn't say anything about a person's reliability and trustworthyness. What does intelligence have to do with either of those? I know people that aren't the brightest crayon in the box but still would give you the shirt off their back. My youngest brother has a learning disability and stuggles in school...but he would help you do ANYTHING and you wouldn't even have to ask him. Open the door for you, help you carry in groceries, lend you $5 without worrying if you pay him back...he isn't the only person out there like that.

I created this thread not because of some ad (there was no ad), but because of e-mails back and forth between myself and the seller. His grammar may not have been the best and he may not include his full name and phone number...but that never sent a red flag up in my mind. The only red flags were that I'd never heard of him before (but every day I'm still learning of new big-name breeders too), and that his prices were a bit below what I've been seeing lately. That doesn't necessarily make it a scam. Is it a scam when WalMart sells Hydroxycut for $19.99 while HEB and other stores sell it for $27.99? No, it just means not everyone feels the need to price things high. Those 2 red flags are WHY I ASKED ABOUT HIM instead of just sending off my money. Excuse the hell out of me for being cautious.

As I said in the beginning, he sent me pictures of the animals we were discussing. I just wanted to utilize this forum before doing business with him to see if anyone else has. I thought that's what this was for and the whole reason behind me becoming a paid member, but apparently I was mistaken. It's for name-calling and making people new to this hobby feel ashamed of asking questions.
 
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Why shouldn't I, and especially you, EXPECT THAT from the people of AMERICA
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Because "good ol' America" is a country of many different immigrants that learned English as a second language and aren't too proficient at writing/typing/speaking it. Because "good ol' America" is a country that says it's OK for immigrants and people of other nationalities to not learn our official language. How are we saying it's OK? By taking up half the back of a tube of diaper cream to re-print directions and ingredients in Spanish/French/German/etc...and oddly enough, the second language instructions take up MORE space than the English instructions, therefore using more ink and plastic...and we wonder why things cost so much nowadays?

But this is absolutely not the forum to discuss this in.

If no one can give any references on Ridiculous Reptiles, then Varnyard and I will have to either take the risk or leave it alone. Thanks for the help. :thumbsup:
 
Hey Jen,
I would stay away from the guy... He had some fake morphs for sale a while back (YBs) i dont know if he just wasnt informed and thought they were real or was trying to scam??? Either way i wouldnt take a chance.
Also im one of those "intellegent" people who cant spell at all. Grammer hah! Has anyone ever read what i write i use ... and ! and , in all the wrong places and i dont screw people! But give me a math problem and ill have the answer in a few seconds for you. We all have our strong points and our weak points, i dont think that should dictate how we run our bus. Now tell me how many grammer errors are in this baby! lol

Hope this helps
Jon
 
Now THAT is EXACTLY the type of info Bobby and I were looking for. Info from the past that people experienced/saw...not a bunch of "he can't spell so I wouldn't trust him" junk. Thank you Jon. Also, you are a prime example of what I was saying. Your...um..."lacking"...skills in typing don't mean you're a scammer, because in my opinion, you are an awesome seller. Oh, and yeah, you really messed that post up. lol!

If you already have a thread here in the BOI, you'll be getting some good feedback from me in it. If not, I'll be starting one for you. Plus I'll leave a positive trader rating for you. Can't wait to get those guys/gals Wednesday morning! :D
 
OH NO! You bought animals from JON!!!!
















They'll be beautiful. :raspberry :rofl: :rofl:
He's one of the good guys out there.
 
ArmyGirl said:
I'm considering purchasing 2 big breeder-size females from him and am just curious if anyone has done business with him? The prices he has them at are lower than I've seen girls for that size go for, so it raised a red flag in my mind. Especially because he says they are eating regularly and are healthy. He sent pics so I've seen the animals...but there's no guarantee those are the animals I'll recieve. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Geez Neil, lay off. As I quoted above, she was simply making in inquiry into whether anyone has done business with this guy. She did not ask for your assessment of his ad or his grammar. She even states that she has red flags popping up. If someone did a BOI search on your name and found that you once had an association with Sal, they would have red flags pop up too. Wouldn't you want them to seek additional information?

Whether you intended to or not, you were/are very condescending. I agree that the lack of comprehension of the english language is a huge red flag for me but certainly not enough to completely walk away should an individuals reputation end up being stellar. Would you think differently if 30+ people came on here and stated that this seller was first class? You admitted not knowing his name, number, etc so how do you know that english is not a second language for him?

Long story short, if you do not have anything productive to add to an INQUIRY ABOUT WHO HAS DONE BUSINESS WITH A SELLER, then keep your comments to yourself. The initiator of this post came here with honest intents and the only thing you did was to make her feel not welcomed. Good job.....

Griz
 
Griz

Neil has done that many times before . Always trying to belittle people because they are not as good as him...lol...Thats what I was trying to get to in my first post in here.


Good job Neil
 
I don't think Neil is trying to belittle anyone here folks. Sometimes it seems that what he's trying to say and what hits the screen are a bit different than what he may have intended.

As for this thread it seems that the one person who knows anything about this guy says stay away.

We all have our spelling and grammatical challenged days some more so than others. A recent add on KS for Crapet Pythons comes to mind. Myself making a real mess of adds and email would make me wonder...Randy
 
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